Having trouble installing Libre Office

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#21

I would welcome detailed, tested steps to do the same in a GUI with less
than the 4 steps I enumerated. :slight_smile: Using a PPA is already a stretch of
using "Linux for human beings", so is going to LibreOffice so early.

Try describing what you wrote in detailed steps (as an exercise) and
soon you will need screenshots, red circles and arrows pointing at
stuff: "add the repo to synaptic and install by simply copy/pasting the
repo url appropriately into the synaptic repo tool, then searching,
clicking, installing, too, since we're in pointy clicky land here."
While at it please define "repo", "synaptic", "repo url", "repo tool"
and "installing"! I seriously wish PPAs where easier, but then we'd end
up with Active X :smiley: Such documentation shortcuts are impossible to
decifer by most users and if expand them it becomes some huge
intimidating document. I know about this from doing it full time for the
last 4 years (for Ubuntu, specifically).

I think a video might be in order :slight_smile: Meh.

Cheers,

#22

Will LIbreOffice eventually be available on Ubuntu without having to do all
the technical stuff?

#23

Technical stuff......like turning on your computer, typing a command,
and *gasp* learning something new?

#24

It also says:

A function letter need not be prefixed with ``-'',...

The preceding dash has been deprecated for at least five years if not longer.

#25

I would welcome detailed, tested steps to do the same in a GUI with less
than the 4 steps I enumerated. :slight_smile: Using a PPA is already a stretch of
using "Linux for human beings", so is going to LibreOffice so early.

It _is_ in beta test - it's not ready for prime time quite yet....

Try describing what you wrote in detailed steps (as an exercise) and
soon you will need screenshots, red circles and arrows pointing at
stuff: "add the repo to synaptic and install by simply copy/pasting the
repo url appropriately into the synaptic repo tool, then searching,
clicking, installing, too, since we're in pointy clicky land here."
While at it please define "repo", "synaptic", "repo url", "repo tool"
and "installing"! I seriously wish PPAs where easier, but then we'd end
up with Active X :smiley: Such documentation shortcuts are impossible to
decifer by most users and if expand them it becomes some huge
intimidating document. I know about this from doing it full time for the
last 4 years (for Ubuntu, specifically).

I think a video might be in order :slight_smile: Meh.

This is where the CLI shines - a few simple commands to execute and you're done.

Why the installation process is not provided in a shell script, say
"install," is beyond me.

#26

Clearly you would be amazed at how many people give up right there....

#27

My guess is %90 won't bother installing LO, if not installed by default.

#28

Likely so, but until LO is officially released, 90% won't want it, either.

Beta tests are for avid fans and serious users, not the general
public. Judging by the volume (and type) of issues raised here, I'd
say that's a good thing.

#29

You really, really make a great point.
And, in fact, that's why I don't use all the gui stuff, dumped
KDE and gnome and other eye-candy bloat years ago, and learned to use the
CLI.
(let's just call it, "for efficiency's sake")
But, you know, it does make it "easier" for the new kids
out there in pointy-clicky land, if you have the patience to
make the video, and the glossy, full-color manuals.
I think that was Ubuntu's life purpose, or something...
To tack on bloat and eye-candy so the new kids could get their
feet wet.
Ubuntu: The Kiddy Pool of the Great Gnu/Linux Ocean!

:wink:

./tony

#30

Or at least installable all pointy-clicky like in Synaptic or something of
that sort.

I'm sure, since OOo will soon be going the way of Wordperfect, that LO will
eventually be a default staple in FOSS land.

./tony

#31

Maybe we should just tell them, "Stick with Windows until you grow up."

:slight_smile:

#32

I seriously hook the n00bs up with Debian/XFCE edition, all the time,
and they get off and running with no problem, and stay without problems.
(although that KDE bloat probably looks even more like their favorite
bloated proprietary monster, these days).

My experience throwing ubuntu at n00bs hasn't been good, because stuff
breaks
a lot more often than with debian.
Ubuntu is good for those who are new and want to learn more.
But for somebody who seriously just wants everything to work without any
hassles, I honestly believe Debian is a better choice.
I think it's better than Windows, for newcomers, seriously, not just because
I am
a linux fan-boy, but, because it's so easy to break stuff in windows (or get
viruses, spyware
malware, intrusions, blah blah blah), whereas Debian is rock solid.
Hook a n00b up with Debian, and do NOT give them a root passwd, and they're
set for life.
Probably any distro-wars should be taken off-list, though...
Since this is the LO list, and not the "let's argue about what OS is
best for n00bs" list.

./tony

#33

Yes, this is a great idea to make it accessible from the Software Manager at least, if LO will not be installed by default in the next release of Ubuntu.

In Turkey, we have a national distro named as pardus.

The pardus development team switched to LO in a very short time after LO's initial announcement. That was good. :slight_smile:
I think the new version, pardus 2011 is going to be released sometime today. Including LO.

#34

It was announced somewhere that LO will be on Ubuntu's repository, so
it will be easy to install it. I think they are waiting for it to be out of the
RC mode. Then it will be in the next version of Ubuntu if it gets the release
version in time. They are working on 11.10 now.

#35

Thanks, good to know :slight_smile:

#36

Seriously. I didn't know that either.
good stuff,
tony

#37

Wanda, given your experience level I'd recommend (for the time being)
that you stick with what you already have installed (OOo). LibreOffice
is currently in RC (Release Candidate), meaning that it is still in the
testing phase. Wait until LO is fully released, or had someone assist you.

However, if you still wish to give LO a try (and I hesitate to advise
this if you have a dailup connection where the download takes "hours"):

1. Download the .deb package from:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download
<http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-rc3/deb/x86_64/LibO_3.3.0rc3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz>

2. Go to where you downloaded the .gz and right-click and select
'Extract here'. Then follow Mark & Baldwins's instructions (and you'll
need to open the terminal to do this (Applications|Accessories|Terminal):

$ cd LibO_3.3.0rc3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS
$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb

then

$ cd desktop-integration
$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb

You should then find LibreOffice in Applications|Office

#38

No, I really wouln't be amazed. I've dealt with too many of them.

#39

Dohhh, i just spent ages downloading Pardus to give it a try! There didn't seem
to be a faster mirror nearer me so i left it downloadign while i was out yday.

Good to hear there is a new release extremely imminent. A lot of people are
saying good things about it. So, i will d/l again in a couple of days i guess
:slight_smile:

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#40

Hi Tom,
We need more fibers here!
I guess the latest release of pardus 2011 is postponed, because it says there are 37 days left on the web page now.
When it's out I will also have a look, but for now, it's okay with ubuntu 10.10 :slight_smile: