Heads up -- LibreOffice 5.0 is on the horizion

users
#21

Hi Stuart,

If folks have not been paying attention, there has been sufficient movement
in the project to warrant a 5.0 branding of the next major release.

From the Release plan <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan>

5.0.0 (freeze: week 21) Week 16 , Apr 13, 2015 - Apr 19, 2015 Week 31 ,
Jul 27, 2015 - Aug 2, 2015

The development master will be branched to a 5.0.0alpha0 effective next
week.

New to 5.0 will be a true 64-bit Windows build (for Windows >= Vista),
follow other tidbits in the evolving LibreOffice 5.0 release notes
<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.0> .

What is needed from the community now, are your artistic talents. It is time
for a new motif for 5.0, here is a progression of our StartCenter from 3.3
to current builds of master (pre-5.0). As can be seen, the color scheme is
a bit stale.

So, break out your graphics packages and draw. There is a stub for any
proposals in the Design Wiki Whiteboards at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding

Thanks a lot for pushing things here, will you coordinate with the
design team and the marketing team? or do you want me to do so? Italo
will come back to the Design list soon, and I'm sure K-J will submit his
great design too.
Cheers
Sophie

#22

@Sophie,

Happy to do what I can to move this along with both Design (I'm a member)
and the Marketing teams.

After last weeks Design meeting, Kendy was going to approach
Marketing--specifically regards status of the LibreOffice Tango based icons
as branding ---
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg
And, as well to propose "contest" for Visual design and Branding for
5.0--don't know where that stands.

Opening the stub on the Design Wiki just gets it all moving--I hope :wink:

But, I did poke Italo in his "LibreOffice 5.0 Visual Identity" task on the
LibreOffice Marketing Redmine site.

Stuart

#23

I have just looked at Redmine, and I will reply ASAP. I do not have a
quick answer to the question, so I am trying to elaborate a bit before
providing my opinion.

#24

Hi all:

  Thank you, excuse me but I haven't match that word with that
perfomance. It is clear now.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

#25

Hi Bill:

  Thank you for the information

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

#26

Hi Tom:

  Thank you

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

#27

Hi Stuart,

@Sophie,

Happy to do what I can to move this along with both Design (I'm a member)
and the Marketing teams.

After last weeks Design meeting, Kendy was going to approach
Marketing--specifically regards status of the LibreOffice Tango based icons
as branding ---
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg
And, as well to propose "contest" for Visual design and Branding for
5.0--don't know where that stands.

Opening the stub on the Design Wiki just gets it all moving--I hope :wink:

But, I did poke Italo in his "LibreOffice 5.0 Visual Identity" task on the
LibreOffice Marketing Redmine site.

Great, thanks a lot for coordinating, everybody is in the loop :slight_smile:
Cheers
Sophie

#28

Hi :slight_smile:
Yup, we are all loopy ;))

The weather where i am is unbelievably fantastic. Just a couple weeks ago
i was wearing tons of layers and huge gloves and still shivering in the
cold. Now i've got the windows open and listening to the birds making a
right racket (in a good way). I hope it is good where all of you are too
:slight_smile:

Good luck and regards from
Tom :slight_smile: on a lazily warm day

#29

Even with the ability to clear with a single menu click, there are user-cases were that remains a security flaw.(I'm hoping an extension can overide that fuctionality.)

jonathon

#30

toki kantoor wrote:

jonathon wrote

For some of us, those thumbnails are a security flaw.

And all cleared with a single menu button click. So, it never has been a flaw--rather as designed

Even with the ability to clear with a single menu click, there are user-cases were that remains a security flaw.(I'm hoping an extension can overide that fuctionality.)

jonathon

A quick search turned up a feature request:
   https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74834
so the concerns are known and an option requested.

And a couple of possible workarounds...

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74834#c11
Sets the history list size to 0, so no thumbnails, but nothing under File > Recent Documents either. If you're really concerned about security / privacy, that's probably what you want anyway since listing file names has the potential to reveal information.

http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/29139/can-the-new-start-screen-in-v42-be-reverted-to-that-in-v41/?answer=36673#post-id-36673
Nars gives a hack to hide the thumbnails. I haven't tried it. As noted, it's editing one of the main installation files so will affect all users. You probably also need administrator/root access to edit that file, and may need to re-do that customisation after installing updates.

Hopefully there's something useful there.

Mark.

#31

Sorry, but all this crud about security of the StartCenter thumbnail view is
FUD.

Since 4.3.2 and commit
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=a628ea1cd72585b889d591052680ebf79887dcef&h=libreoffice-4-3
one simply needs to set a password for a document, and no thumbnail of the
document will be created.

Those of you with legitimate security concerns *are* password protecting
your files right?

See tdf#80755 <https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80755>
.

Now, that said--there are some legitimate UX issues of textual vs. graphical
thumbnails on the StartCenter as in the tdf#74834
<https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74834> enhancement.

#32

Hi all:

  I've modified the first suggestion of WhiteBoard design for Libre
Office 5.0. I include the thumbnail as Stuart request, and licence and
description of artwork:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Design_White_Board-LibreOffice.png

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

#33

Thanks for your work on this Jorge.
But IMO a design for our needs must be more cute, straight and so.
Yours look more as an idea for a poster - so I would suggest to keep and
improve it for such an opportunity.

Regards,
Cor

#34

Hi Cor and all:

  Ok, I'm going to think ...

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

#35

Hi Jim, Cor and all:

  Yes, it would be a good idea, thank you,

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

#36

Cor and Jorge,

IMO a design like this would be acceptable in a private user environment but not in many corporate environments. Maybe LibreOffice could consider offering two themes.

#37

Hi James,

IMO a design like this would be acceptable in a private user
environment but not in many corporate environments.

I would not dare to suggest to take private users less serious than
corporate users.

Maybe LibreOffice could consider offering two themes.

Apart from that, it adds hassle in production and organising, confusion
maybe in getting, introduces communication issues, reduces recognition..

Sorry, I would definitely say no to this :slight_smile:

#38

Hi :slight_smile:
LibreOffice can already be themed and there are quite a lot out there
already. Tim of Kracked Press made at least one. You can use Firefox ones
but they call them "Personas". There are already a couple of space ones
but i think Jorge's is really fantastic and would be a good addition to
them.

Wrt "serious" and corporate vs private - i don't think anyone was really
suggesting that private users are any less serious. I'm sure we have all
seen some private individuals being much more serious or dedicated where
corporates maybe sometimes lose their focus sometimes. It's just difficult
to express the differences between private and more public use. Private
usage may sometimes allow people to be more expressive and personalise
things a lot more without having to "fit in" with other people's
peculiarities.

Yes, great idea about possibly using Jorge's concept for a poster too.
There are a lot of events of widely varying scale and this concept might be
good for one of them or for something else Jorge might be involved in.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: