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#21

Sylvain,
So far so good. Sorry to say that I myself have only for some months been trying to learn LibreO-Base with all its more or less hidden and working/not working features. I am also curious to know which are the next steps in solving your problem.
Best regards
Pertti

#22

Am 06.03.2012 19:25, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:

Hi Pertti,

All that worked as you described. I found 'Navigation bar'. It was
already marked "yes"! But no visible navigation bar with the icon on
your example! Picking "Parent form" instead of yes made no difference.
What is going on? Let me say again how much I appreciate the time and
thought you put in helping me.

Sylvain

Something else disables this toolbar which is essential for using most database forms.
Find your profile folder. You find the profile folder when you call

Paths and watch for the path that looks like

.../LibreOffice/3/user/. The ... depends on your system.
Shut down the office including the quick starter.
Rename that folder.
Then restart the office. It will create a new profile folder as if it were started for the very first time.
Now you should be able to use all the toolbars.

#23

Problem sort of solved. Looking at the form carefully, I found an odd icon is the set of options at the bottom of the form at the end. One of these looked vaguely like the one on your example but slightly different. I clicked on it and the Table appeared on the top half!! The tool bar etc. don't look at at all like in your example. No "navigation" label etc. Just the icon preceded by filter icons. It makes as much sense as our politics, except that it works. By the way where are you located? I am in Cambridge, Massachusetts USA.

Thanks again.

Sylvain

#24

One other suggestion: Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General. Look
in the Help section. Make sure that Tips and Help Agents are checked.
When they are, you can hover the cursor over an icon in a toolbar to get
a pop-up label for it.
     Another thing that may help you is the Getting Started with Base
Chapter. The top of page 20 has a screenshot and instructions on how to
open the Form properties dialog. The Navigation bar is the next to the
bottom property.

--Dan

#25

Hi :slight_smile:
I think the default setting avoids taking back-ups as it can be time-consuming and irritating to people on slower machines.  One advantage of LibreOffice/OpenOffice is that it tends to work well on machines that are so slow that MS Office would keep falling over.

To switch it on the back-ups option try

Tools - Options - +Load/Save - "Always create a back-up copy"

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#26

I can place LO on machines that can barely use MSO 95/97. As long as it can run Win XP or Ubuntu 10.04, it can run LO.

For me, I always keep a auto save every 5 or 10 minutes. For some users, the "make a backup copy " of the original file before you edit it is the only way to go, with the auto saving option enable of course. The only time I had a problem with the "restore" on reboot of LO was when I removed the offending file from my system.

The real issue is that if you have a "large" document, then you have to decide if it is worth any "slowness" with the auto backup and auto saving enabled. For simple things, maybe not, but for business documents and documents that take more than a few minutes to type you should enable them.

#27

Hi Tom,

Thanks for your reply.

I had:

x always create backup copy
x save auto-recover-info every 1 Min.

One can see, that LO is regularly saving by the moving bar. However this saved
information apparently is not used for the recover process.

When after a system crash, unexpected shutdown or similar LO starts with a
window asking whether the user wants to recover the files, I answer yes,
recovery runs and LO claims to be successful. However the "recovered" file
contains old information. The last information is contained in
/tmp/..../0.odt
and can manually be used to restore to the latest condition.

With respect to the developers of LO.

Walther

#28

Hi :slight_smile:
Ahh the back-ups are usually stored in
UserProfile/backups
(the folder called "backups" in your user-profile).  this guide hopefully shows where the UserProfile is in your Operating System although 3.5.0 has added a folder just in front of ".libreoffice" to make it ".config/.libreoffice" or something like that.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#29

Hi Tom,

to my understanding there are two different mechanisms:

1) backup files, created when reopening a file (i.e.
  /home/w/.libreoffice/3/user/backup/file.bak)

2) the auto-recover-info saved while editing any x Minutes.

The second one is not used in the recover process! So I end up with an
outdated file version. However it still exists in the /tmp/.../0.odt file.
The recover function should use that information.

Have you an advice?

Walther