5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

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#1

Spot of bother here.

I'm creating .odt files from a home-brew application, and using LO to 'polish up' the formatting. The files contain a lot of frames anchored as characters - each has text (a chord symbol) that appears above the line of lyrics.

This used to work reasonably well; the last document I had prepared is dated February 8th, and there was no issue (the was version 5.something - possibly 5.0.x, possibly 5.1.0; but I can't be sure). Today, for the same document, the frames are pretty well all positioned in the same wrong place, the text is invisible, and they have a box (the style says no box).

With some effort, I've reverted back from 5.1.1 (from the LO PPA) to 4.2.8.2 (from the ubuntu PPA) and now things are more or less working as they used to. So something's broken since mid-Feb - presumably LO as my files haven't changed.

Anyone else having problems, or can shed light please?

Is there a way of reverting to an earlier 5.x? Synaptic doesn't offer these, and makes switching versions something close to agonizingly hard.

Thanks.

(Mint 17, btw, in case it's relevant)

#2

Hi Mike,

Mike Scott schrieb:
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Is there a way of reverting to an earlier 5.x? Synaptic doesn't offer
these, and makes switching versions something close to agonizingly hard.

Thanks.

I can easily make an administrative installation of any version I want on Windows, which do not influence each other. Is that not possible on Linux?

Kind regards
Regina

#3

​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64&version=&lang=sv
​....

Henri

#4

I don't know how to install an old version using Synaptic and the standard package-management system, which Mike referred to, but it is possible to install software directly, as Henri describes.

- Robert

#5

....

​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to
download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64&version=&lang=sv

​....

I don't know how to install an old version using Synaptic and the
standard package-management system, which Mike referred to, but it is
possible to install software directly, as Henri describes.

Yes, I've seen that, thanks (I replied to Regina to this effect, but that seems to have been delayed). A potential issue is that synaptic has LO split across a lot of packages, and there seems some risk of conflicts.... but if no-one has seen my (original) problem I'll have to go the manual downgrade route.

#6

....

​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to
download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64&version=&lang=sv

​....

I don't know how to install an old version using Synaptic and the
standard package-management system, which Mike referred to, but it is
possible to install software directly, as Henri describes.

Quite quick to do. The only problem is that I can't see how to have two versions installed at once, so logging a bug against 5.1.1 would be a problem.

FWIW 5.1.0 does behave correctly though.

#7

If you really want to install older versions of LibO,
https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/4.2.8.2/ will
point you to 4.2.8, although I would not commender going back to these older
versions. The normal download site currently gives the options of 5.04,
5.0.5 and 5.1.0. Remember that all of these versions will use the same
.config/libreoffice file with Ubuntu/Mint.

Are you sure your problems are with the version of LibO and not the
installation itself or problems with the config file?...Peter

#8

Hi,

Mike Scott schrieb:

....

​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to
download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64&version=&lang=sv

​....

I don't know how to install an old version using Synaptic and the
standard package-management system, which Mike referred to, but it is
possible to install software directly, as Henri describes.

Quite quick to do. The only problem is that I can't see how to have two
versions installed at once, so logging a bug against 5.1.1 would be a
problem.

FWIW 5.1.0 does behave correctly though.

You might find a guide here:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/Linux

Kind regards
Regina

#9

I think things have been changing even as I've been working, because I tried just a few minutes ago to download the 5.1.1 development version, and got 'target not found'. I've just checked again, and it's now there for download.

But anyway, I've tried the following:

5.1.0.3 (downloaded) works (and is where I'll stick for now)

5.1.1.1~rc2 (LO PPA reinstated) now works although the line spacings look subtly different. I'm not sure if this was exactly the version I was using before though when it failed so badly - as I've noted above, things have been changing as I work.

4.x (ubuntu PPA) works, but line spacing is different from 5.1.0.3

I'm not sure pushing out development versions in a PPA is such a brilliant idea. Having had my fingers burnt, I've removed the LO PPAs from synaptic, and will upgrade manually from now on.

Thanks all; sorry it's been a bit of a time waster. If nothing else, I've learned a bit more about dpkg and friends!

#10

Probably yes, but not by using the PPAs which are supposed to keep life simple and consistent. Or at least I don't know how.... which isn't quite the same thing :slight_smile:

Looking at the LO downloads page, 'still' seems to be 5.0.5, and 'fresh' older than what the LO PPA is serving up. But synaptic lists a good dozen or twenty installed packages to do with LO, and no doubt getting packages out of sync could be "interesting".

If no-one else has seen this, I guess I'll have to deinstall the lot, and try (probably) 'fresh' to see what happens. And then log a bug report, although my experience with bugzilla from the OOo days was far from happy :frowning:

Thanks.