[ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

l10n
#1

Hi *,

for 3.4.4 rc1, we're now uploading builds to a public (but
non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as
they're available (Windows not yet fully there, but should be in the
next few hours). Grab them here:

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

If you've a bit of time, please give them a try & report *critical*
bugs not yet in bugzilla here, so we can incorporate them into the
release notes. Please note that it takes approximately 24 hours to
populate the mirrors, so that's about the time we have to collect
feedback.

The list of fixed bugs in this release is here:

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-4-release-3.4.4.1.log

So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated - and
validation that those bugs are really fixed.

Thanks a lot for your help,

-- Thorsten

#2

Will there be KeyID builds, possibly?

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for 3.4.4 rc1, we're now uploading builds to a public (but

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#3

There's quite a few locales missing - including my own (gd). Is the /win branch still not quite there or am I looking in the wrong place?

Michael

27/10/2011 10:38, sgrìobh Thorsten Behrens:

#4

Does 3.4.4 contain any new or changed strings?

Lp, m.

#5

Hi Michael,

helppacks are for help only, the big installer contains all UI translations.

Best regards,
Andras

#6

Hi Martin,

Yes, there were some last minute changes to help, basically links to
*.services.openoffice.org were changed to links that point to TDF
servers. I changed the links in translations, too, but I'll release
the new pot/sdf files ASAP and update Pootle.

Best regards,
Andras

#7

Hi Yuri,

No, 3.4.4 is stable. You can use an older KeyID build (3.4.0beta2),
strings are 99.99% percent the same.
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/KeyID/

Best regards,
Andras

#8

Hello Andras,

Hi Martin,

Yes, there were some last minute changes to help, basically links to
*.services.openoffice.org were changed to links that point to TDF
servers. I changed the links in translations, too, but I'll release
the new pot/sdf files ASAP and update Pootle.

Does 3.4.4 contain any new or changed strings?

As I read commit log, IMHO there's one change to string here:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/calc/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-4-4&id=2db0bea297ed0393fbf2b896e2f1b258d88dacdc

Best Regards,

#9

Oh, I forgot about this. I did not count it as a real string change,
because it was rephrasing of the English string without changing the
meaning.

Best regards,
Andras

#10

I'm a dunce >.< thanks, got it.

Ok, I have a slack handful of questions. But first of all, overall I'm happy with it to go live - there are small linguistic things to tweak but nothing that affects overall functionality and workability. <whew>

1) I had to choose Custom Install, then select Gaelic (gd) as an additional language. If I choose Typical, then I don't get a language choice. Is this because this is a rc and not the full blow thing or should Typical installation not offer the interface language during installation?

2) The accelerators are a bit of a mess and putting them right would be a bit of a fruitless task, methinks, especially since it's rarely easy to tell which string is which. I followed the thread about those and I jotted down the code, but I don't trust myself with code of that complexity given my lack of programming skills. Is there any chance of someone stripping those from all the gd files?

I considered leaving it till after but given that nobody really is used to certain combinations at the moment, I reckon it would be better for continuity to change them before.

If that's not doable at all, I don't consider it an issue critical enough not to go with the 8 Nov though.

3) Sort of related to 2). At which point should I start/stop correcting those in relation to 8 Nov? Or in other terms, if I change a type now, will it affect what's in the release? Or would it be better to wait until after?

le meas,

Michael

27/10/2011 16:30, sgrìobh Andras Timar:

#11

Hi Michael,

1) I had to choose Custom Install, then select Gaelic (gd) as an additional
language. If I choose Typical, then I don't get a language choice. Is this
because this is a rc and not the full blow thing or should Typical
installation not offer the interface language during installation?

Typical installation does not offer language selection. It selects and
installs languages supported by the system. On a typical Windows
installation it is one language, I presume it is English (UK) in your
case.

2) The accelerators are a bit of a mess and putting them right would be a
bit of a fruitless task, methinks, especially since it's rarely easy to tell
which string is which. I followed the thread about those and I jotted down
the code, but I don't trust myself with code of that complexity given my
lack of programming skills. Is there any chance of someone stripping those
from all the gd files?

I considered leaving it till after but given that nobody really is used to
certain combinations at the moment, I reckon it would be better for
continuity to change them before.

If that's not doable at all, I don't consider it an issue critical enough
not to go with the 8 Nov though.

It is doable but risky, and we don't have a second chance to correct
it for 3.4.4. Accelerator removing scripts are untested.

3) Sort of related to 2). At which point should I start/stop correcting
those in relation to 8 Nov? Or in other terms, if I change a type now, will
it affect what's in the release? Or would it be better to wait until after?

There will be an rc2, because there were Windows build fixes and other
last minute patches were coming in. I'll check Pootle for updates on
October 30, Sunday evening.

Best regards,
Andras

#12

Hi Andras,

27/10/2011 19:29, sgrìobh Andras Timar:

Typical installation does not offer language selection. It selects and installs languages supported by the system. On a typical Windows installation it is one language, I presume it is English (UK) in your case.

Not again, I absolutely *detest* that "function" >.< Yes, I'm on English (UK)... given that a large % of LO localisations won't have localised operating systems, that is sheer lunacy... But at least I now know. <sigh> yet more tech support work coming my way.

It is doable but risky, and we don't have a second chance to correct
it for 3.4.4. Accelerator removing scripts are untested.

I'll have another look then. I think a few locales used scripts to remove theirs - could someone let me know how that turned out in the end?

There will be an rc2, because there were Windows build fixes and other
last minute patches were coming in. I'll check Pootle for updates on
October 30, Sunday evening.

Ah ok, so I'll implement the spelling corrections in Pootle.

Many thanks - and sorry about the moan above, but that increasingly common "feature" really does my head in.

Michael

<http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/stuth/geamannan/tetris/>

#13

Thanks. You should note, that that KeyID build can't be used directly on some systems:

$ ldd -r libpyuno.so
ldd: warning: you do not have execution permission for `./libpyuno.so'
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8 (./libpyuno.so)
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_GetSize (./libpyuno.so)
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_AsUnicode (./libpyuno.so)
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_FromUnicode (./libpyuno.so)
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_AsUTF8String (./libpyuno.so)
...

So I had to substitute the libpyuno.so for the one from today's 3.4.4 build.

Also, is there a possibility to have two instances of LibO from different installations (e.g., 3.4.4 and KeyID), running simultaneously? Right now if I have one running, starting another just activates the already running instance. Bit of a bother.

-Yury

#14

We are waiting for you, Andras... :slight_smile:

#15

2011.10.27. 22:45 keltezéssel, Valter Mura írta:

Hi Martin,

Yes, there were some last minute changes to help, basically links to
*.services.openoffice.org were changed to links that point to TDF
servers. I changed the links in translations, too, but I'll release
the new pot/sdf files ASAP and update Pootle.

We are waiting for you, Andras... :slight_smile:

Yesterday I put new SDF/POT files online.
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/latest-POT/
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/latest-SDF/

By this morning Pootle update is done for help, it is still running for the UI. But please note, that if you do nothing, then you are still fine, because the URLs have been replaced in git with a sed script. This Pootle update serves no other purpose than to sync source and Pootle again. So don't panic, if you don't have time to work on 3.4 translations this weekend.

Best regards,
Andras

#16

I just spotted that the Irish have translated the main page(s) at http://ga.libreoffice.org/ - and that http://gd.libreoffice.org/ also "works" except it's in English. How does that process work and am I too late for 3.4.4?

On the bright side, from a language point of view RC2 in gd is good to go.

Cheers

Michael

#17

Hi Michael,

I just spotted that the Irish have translated the main page(s) at
http://ga.libreoffice.org/ - and that http://gd.libreoffice.org/ also
"works" except it's in English. How does that process work and am I too late
for 3.4.4?

It is not related to releases, you can do it any time.
See: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT
You already have your site set up, so you only need to find out on the
web devel list, how to get rights to edit it.

On the bright side, from a language point of view RC2 in gd is good to go.

Good news!

Cheers,
Andras