APA Heading 3 that does not use paragraph style

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#1

The APA Publication Manual (Section 3.03, Pg 62) mandates a Heading 3
style that that is bold and indented (1/2 an inch like a normal
paragraph), and then followed on the same line by the text.

That means one cannot use a paragraph style, as the paragraph needs to
actually be normal body text (Default in most cases). If one uses a
generated ToC, then the text that is style with the Heading styles is
used in the ToC, so you don;t want a paragraph that looks like normal
but for which you bold the first bit.

Seems to me there was a way to style text as a heading level
(specifically for ToC purposes), without making it a paragraph style,
but I can't recall how that was done.

#2

On Thu, 5 May 2016 06:48:54 -0800
Marc Grober <marc@interak.com> dijo:

The APA Publication Manual (Section 3.03, Pg 62) mandates a Heading 3
style that that is bold and indented (1/2 an inch like a normal
paragraph), and then followed on the same line by the text.

I believe there is a template for APA. Don't ask me where to find it,
however. And I don't know if it will solve your problem.

#3

I have worked through quite a few templates, and have found that address
this problem :frowning:

#4

Marc -

Does this link help?
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=709

- Robert

#5

ROFL... Yes, Robert, that addresses the problem and the developer
deserves props for macro-izing it, lol.... Thanks.
But it is not a satisfactory solution to what is a very mundane problem.

I have gone ahead and created a feature request in bugzilla
(https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99695) and ask that
anyone interested CC themselves and add confirmation/comment as
appropriate so we can get this assigned as I am thinking it should not
be a major problem in resolving the gap.

#6

Maybe one could put this requirement up for debate….

Not knowing anything about it it sounds like a real odd requirement\\

#7

Not knowing anything about it it sounds like a real odd requirement\\

Let me try again :slight_smile:

LO has a built in indexing feature. Part and parcel of this feature is
a configurable Table of Contents (ToC) generator.
For some reason, this generator will include a user configurable set of
Paragraph Styled text as ToC entries, but will not allow you to include
text that is Character styled.

As a result, any heading that could be described as "run-in" or
"in-line" can't not be included in the ToC. In the example below, the
bold text should be a heading, but cannot be made a heading without also
making the entire ensuing paragraph part of the heading :frowning:

        <b>*This is Heading Three*.</b> As one can see, this level of
heading yada yada yada
and blah blah blah as that is the way it is.

The macro that was referenced earlier creates a mini invisible heading,
and then character formats the actual text, fooling the ToC generator
into adding the text to the ToC, while hiding the heading from the
reader. Quite a kludge, but there should be a simpler and more robust
way to manage this.

Why? Because all APA (or similar style) formatted documents with a level
3 heading have this issue, and because it is likely that all the
generator is doing is searching for the tags, noting the page and adding
the tagged text to the ToC, there should be no reason this would not be
the simplest fix.

#8

Would a non-braking paragraph terminator resolve the issue. Inserted into the Insert>Manual Break... Menu. It would be a paragraph break that does not perform a line feed.
Steve

#9

Steve, I've never heard of a non-breaking paragraph terminator. Could you expand on how to insert it? I don't see it in the Insert > Manual Break menu.

- Robert

#10

There was a prior enhancement request that I eventually discovered,
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48459, which
proposes a different type of solution than the one I proposed (I duped
them anyway) but it also included an instance specific way to accomplish
the in-line header that is less involved than the macro.
Unfortunately, as I note, it is instance specific, so one would have to
create the indexing or change the indexing for each specific heading (as
opposed to just applying a Character Format that is targeted by the ToC
generator as I have argued. Suffice it to say that it is not a work
around I want to teach to secondary students....

#11

Hi. There isn't one, but it was a suggestion for a means of enhancing LO by including one.