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Readers,
In the dialogue window to modify a heading style, the option to apply
numbering (via 'outline & numbering') is greyed out (disabled).
How to activate numbering for heading styles?
Have a look at Tools → Outline Numbering...
Why the hell is this menu item under Tools - I always search in Format and Styles. Thanks for the question and answer.
I have never been satisfied with OO and LibO's treatment of outline numbering. I like to control all formatting with Styles, but when it comes to outline numbering, I can't do that. For outline numbered paragraphs, even paragraph indents and margins are controlled by Tools/Outline Numbering rather than the styles.
What I have done is create a bunch of paragraph styles called "Outline-1," "Outline-2," "Outline-3," etc. In terms of Style-controlled formatting, each of these styles is identical -- single spaced with 12 point vertical space before each paragraph. Then, in the Tools/Outline Numbering dialog, I associate each outline style with a different outline level. Then within each particular level, I set the formatting parameters I want with proper numbering and paragraph indenting.
It is all very backwards as I end up formatting paragraphs, not by the formatting styles, but by the outline numbering feature. I spent many, many hours trying to get it figured out, but once I got it done, it works great. I saved all my styles and outline numbering parameters into my default template so that I never have to try to figure it out again.
Virgil
Why not open a bug/feature request to add support for doing this via styles?
Since you've already worked out the hard part, upload your default template complete with these predefined Styles to give the devs a starting point?
Hi Virgil,
VA schrieb:
I have never been satisfied with OO and LibO's treatment of outline
numbering. I like to control all formatting with Styles, but when it
comes to outline numbering, I can't do that. For outline numbered
paragraphs, even paragraph indents and margins are controlled by
Tools/Outline Numbering rather than the styles.
Not "even", only left indents are set in the numbering dialog, all other settings come from the paragraph style. What other setting can you not do with the paragraph style?
What I have done is create a bunch of paragraph styles called
"Outline-1," "Outline-2," "Outline-3," etc. In terms of Style-controlled
formatting, each of these styles is identical -- single spaced with 12
point vertical space before each paragraph. Then, in the Tools/Outline
Numbering dialog, I associate each outline style with a different
outline level. Then within each particular level, I set the formatting
parameters I want with proper numbering and paragraph indenting.
Why do you need own paragraph styles for that? The predefined styles "Heading 1" etc. work as well. You can adapt them easily to your own needs.
It is all very backwards as I end up formatting paragraphs, not by the
formatting styles, but by the outline numbering feature. I spent many,
many hours trying to get it figured out, but once I got it done, it
works great. I saved all my styles and outline numbering parameters into
my default template so that I never have to try to figure it out again.
Yes, that is the normal way, define own templates for settings, which you use often and set that template, which you use most, as default template.
Kind regards
Regina
In response to Tanstaafl and Regina,
I've never considered this a "bug." Rather it's a design decision, and I wouldn't want to clutter up a bugzilla with my design preferences. Also, despite the fact that I don't like it, it works better than MS Word's outliner. I just figure there is something about the way outline levels are inter-connected that makes it difficult to control them through paragraph styles.
Regina, you're correct. Only the left indents are controlled by the numbering dialog, which is part of the problem. SOME formatting parameters are controlled by paragraph styles and SOME are controlled by the numbering dialog, so I'm bouncing back and forth between different formatting paradigms.
As to the Headings styles, I should have clarified, my "outline" styles are not for headings. I create a lot of outlined documents. I have actually created several other Headings styles, called "Chapter," "Section," "Subsection," etc. I have followed the LaTeX naming scheme as it makes the most sense to me. So, between my heading styles and my outline styles, I use all 10 outline levels.
I prefer creating my own styles rather than trying to work with the pre-defined styles. I just find it easier and cleaner.
Virgil
For the same reason that in Calc we have (from left to right) Format, Tools,
Data, Window, Help:
some stupid design decision made many years ago that no one dare to change.
Is it possible to set the counter for enumerated headings by sections?
For example
[section 1]
heading 1
subheading 1.1
heading 2
subheading 2.1
subsubheading 2.2.1
heading 3
[section 2]
heading 1
heading 2
etc.
Sure, it's all about setting the hierarchy of your outline in the Tools/Outline Numbering dialog. There are 10 levels of outline. Just set the top level to your section numbering, select the numbering format you want and, if you want to associate it with a Paragraph Style (which I do), do that as well.
It's harder for me to explain than it is to do, but I think if you play with it (with some patience) you'll get the hang of it.
Virgil
I'm sorry, I just now saw what you meant in your question. I call that "legal style" numbering.
That's possible, too.
In the Tools/Outline Numbering, click on the "Show Sublevels" to the number of levels you want to include in your numbering scheme. The default is "1", so if you want to show, "1.1" you'll select 2 sublevels, 1.1.1 will be 3 sublevels and so on. You'll have to make sure all your sublevels are set to show Arabic numbering to get the right result.
Virgil
Hi 
I'm not sure which chapter might be best but documentation here
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
might help. Perhaps Chapter 14 of the Getting Started or the "Styles" Chapters of the Writer's Guide?
Regards from
Tom