automatic creation of template files

e-letter · October 10, 2011, 4:07pm

Readers,

Have recently noticed that each time the computer is started, files
'newdocument.ott' and 'newspreadsheet.ott' are created in the home
directory. So far, this is only noticed on a computer using
opensuse114 with the LO331 installed via the opensuse repository, so
presumably this is a "feature" specific to this distribution.

Please, anyone know how to disable this behaviour, i.e. that no files
are created?

Thanks.

Villeroy · October 10, 2011, 5:17pm

Am 10.10.2011 18:06, e-letter wrote:

Readers,

Have recently noticed that each time the computer is started, files
'newdocument.ott' and 'newspreadsheet.ott' are created in the home
directory. So far, this is only noticed on a computer using
opensuse114 with the LO331 installed via the opensuse repository, so
presumably this is a "feature" specific to this distribution.

Please, anyone know how to disable this behaviour, i.e. that no files
are created?

Thanks.

Download the rpm package LO 3.3.4 or 3.4.3 from http://libreoffice.org and install the real thing.
SUSE, Debian and the other distributors have a bad tradition messing up LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org for no good reason.

Andreas_Sager · October 10, 2011, 5:17pm

Am 10.10.2011 18:06, e-letter wrote:

Readers,

Have recently noticed that each time the computer is started, files
'newdocument.ott' and 'newspreadsheet.ott' are created in the home
directory. So far, this is only noticed on a computer using
opensuse114 with the LO331 installed via the opensuse repository, so
presumably this is a "feature" specific to this distribution.

Please, anyone know how to disable this behaviour, i.e. that no files
are created?

Thanks.

Download the rpm package LO 3.3.4 or 3.4.3 from http://libreoffice.org and install the real thing.
SUSE, Debian and the other distributors have a bad tradition messing up LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org for no good reason.

Joep_L_Blom · October 10, 2011, 8:59pm

Andreas,
Off topic but I get consequently 2 copies of your messages. Is there a problem with your mail client?
Joep

NoOp · October 11, 2011, 12:15am

And don't forget to vote for Michael Meeks for the Board
of The Document Foundation...
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.steering-discuss/1866>

Just remember not to ask user questions on the dev list

cornouws · October 11, 2011, 8:02am

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Säger wrote (10-10-11 19:16)

Download the rpm package LO 3.3.4 or 3.4.3 from http://libreoffice.org
and install the real thing.
SUSE, Debian and the other distributors have a bad tradition messing up
LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org for no good reason.

'Das war einmahl'
I would be really surprised if with the current LibreOffice as base, distributors still make mixtures of various 'versions'.
All I would expect now, is system integration stuff. Which off course can brake things too. But still, it's different.

Or do I really miss information here?

Regards,

Tom_Davies · October 11, 2011, 8:05am

Hi
Hopefully that is true.
Regards from
Tom

Andreas_Sager · October 11, 2011, 10:54am

Am 11.10.2011 10:02, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Andreas,
'Das war einmahl'
I would be really surprised if with the current LibreOffice as base,
distributors still make mixtures of various 'versions'.
All I would expect now, is system integration stuff. Which off course
can brake things too. But still, it's different.

Or do I really miss information here?

Regards,

Windows users who use to create new documents from Explorer

right-click>"New Writer Document" always complain that this

context menu refers to a static template in some user profile folder of MS Windows. When you modify your default template, the right-click template remains the same.
<speculation>It looks as if the SuSE folks try to be extra clever and try the Microsoft way of "system integration" which is "catch each and every system event to be prepared for whatever the stupid user tries to do next". In this case they generate default templates on system/dektop startup. </speculation> May Michael Meeks tell us more details about this extraordinary "feature" and why not use some hidden directory in the user's home directory for stunts like that.
I don't need this nor do I want it. I know how to open any file with any available program. For testing, bug reporting and support I have 5 versions of OOo/LibO on my computer and none of them is from the repos.
I blocked all repo versions since OOo 2.0 because they always used to be more buggy than the vanilla ones. Between versions 2.0 and 3.3 I always needed some of the bug fixes and new features.
All my "system integration" is hand made.

Andreas_Sager · October 11, 2011, 10:55am

Am 10.10.2011 22:58, Joep L. Blom wrote:

Andreas,
Off topic but I get consequently 2 copies of your messages. Is there a
problem with your mail client?
Joep

But the http archives do not show any duplicates.

How about this one?

cornouws · October 11, 2011, 11:08am

Andreas Säger wrote (11-10-11 12:55)

Am 10.10.2011 22:58, Joep L. Blom wrote:

Andreas,
Off topic but I get consequently 2 copies of your messages. Is there a
problem with your mail client?

But the http archives do not show any duplicates.

How about this one?

Usually one comes via moderation and another one with delay

Andreas_Sager · October 11, 2011, 11:35am

Am 11.10.2011 13:07, Cor Nouws wrote:

Andreas Säger wrote (11-10-11 12:55)

Am 10.10.2011 22:58, Joep L. Blom wrote:

Andreas,
Off topic but I get consequently 2 copies of your messages. Is there a
problem with your mail client?

But the http archives do not show any duplicates.

How about this one?

Usually one comes via moderation and another one with delay

... and you happily dropped the moderation copy, right?

Thunderbird command "Reply to list" replies to the GMane newsgroup and to the list.
Now I "Reply to sender" and it goes to the list only.

James_Wilde · October 11, 2011, 11:44am

(Maybe moderated by someone else later?)

Well, Cor, I got two copies of this message (yours) and as far as I'm aware neither of them was moderated!

I have noticed that I have been getting a lot of duplicates for moderation recently. I usually throw away the second one I get. But I don't always notice. Certain messages get approved as soon as I see the sender and/or subject.

//James

James_Wilde · October 11, 2011, 11:46am

Talking of which, I got two copies of my own message. Did anyone else?

cornouws · October 11, 2011, 11:54am

Andreas Säger wrote (11-10-11 13:35)

... and you happily dropped the moderation copy, right?

I think most were moderated either by me or someone else.

Thunderbird command "Reply to list" replies to the GMane newsgroup and
to the list.
Now I "Reply to sender" and it goes to the list only.

Thats obvious from the last mails.
Thanks,

cornouws · October 11, 2011, 11:57am

James Wilde wrote (11-10-11 13:46)

Well, Cor, I got two copies of this message (yours) and as far as I'm aware neither of them was moderated!

Talking of which, I got two copies of my own message. Did anyone else?

Never have experienced that.

Tom_Davies · October 11, 2011, 12:28pm

Hi
Ahah, that makes sense of a thread on the Evolution mailing list now. I think Evo has the same "Reply to list" feature as Thunderbird. In mine i have "Reply to all" which might seem clearer but is not necessarily better and doesn't make up for other problems.
Regards from
Tom

e-letter · October 12, 2011, 8:27am

...

SUSE, Debian and the other distributors have a bad tradition messing up
LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org for no good reason.

Correct, have realised via opensuse mailing list that inspection of
the templates paths reveals many added locations of templates,
compared to the manual installation of LO. Deleting these files
prevents the behaviour.