bibliography after endnotes

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#1

Hi,

To simplify last night's tale of woe into one issue...

The only way of placing the bibliography after the endnotes in correct formatting is to place a section after (technically within) the final endnote. Using a section for the main article causes a crash when double spacing is applied.

Does this method bode well for MS Word compatibility? Is there a better method?

Many thanks,
Ryan

#2

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:22:59 +0100
Info/UX <infoux@gmx.com> dijo:

The only way of placing the bibliography after the endnotes in correct
formatting is to place a section after (technically within) the final
endnote. Using a section for the main article causes a crash when
double spacing is applied.

Does this method bode well for MS Word compatibility? Is there a
better method?

There is a proprietary program called Endnote, used by many
academicians. Is that what you are referring to?

Regardless, there are numerous academic citation and reference styles.
Which one are you using?

And regardless of your responses to the above, might I suggest you look
into Zotero or Mendeley?

#3

Hi :slight_smile:
Does Zotero work on both LibreOffice and on MS Office?

I have a feeling that it does but i could be mis-remembering earlier posts from a thread long ago
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#4

Hi :slight_smile:
Just had it confirmed off-list.  Just thought i would let you all know.  Ok, so it's not 100% confirmed but it's good enough for me :slight_smile:
Regards from

Tom :slight_smile:

#5

Thanks for the reply. I include my response below.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:22:59 +0100
Info/UX <infoux@gmx.com> dijo:

The only way of placing the bibliography after the endnotes in correct
formatting is to place a section after (technically within) the final
endnote. Using a section for the main article causes a crash when
double spacing is applied.

Does this method bode well for MS Word compatibility? Is there a
better method?

There is a proprietary program called Endnote, used by many
academicians. Is that what you are referring to?

Regardless, there are numerous academic citation and reference styles.
Which one are you using?

And regardless of your responses to the above, might I suggest you look
into Zotero or Mendeley?

I'm not actually referring to that program -- by "endnotes" I simply mean in an article you can include numbered references and/or notes either at the the foot of each page or at the end of the document -- hence, the name "endnotes". But despite the name, it is normal to place the bibliography after theses notes. It's the Chicago Humanities style, as far as know -- numbered references with a numbered list at the end followed by bibliography. I'll take a look at Zotero now.. but it seems a quirk of LO that whichever referencing style you choose it places the notes after all other content.

Thanks,
Ryan

#6

I don't know which operation system and LO version are you using but on 4.0.5 on Linux the section for main content does the trick - I can put main content in a section, and in a section properties tick Collect at the end of section, Restart numbering, Custom format. Adding an endnote attaches it to a end of a section, and I can do Alt + Enter to exit that (main) section and make manual break with Ctrl + Enter so Bibliography can be added to a new page. It all works with double spaces (for endnotes and main text).

Just wonted to tell you that because maybe changing the LO version would solve your problems. Also, see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx3K99ehRXI

Kruno

#7

Thank you very much for this.

I am using LO 4.0.2.2, which is the latest build available for Kubuntu 12.04 LTS. I wonder why you do not experience the bug I do. I did upgrade from 3.5 (I think) to my current version and found the same bug. Maybe I should try the .deb from the LibreOffice website.

I am wondering though whether sections are needed at all. As long as one inserts the bibliography at the final stage it might be possible to simply press return and copy and paste under the final endnote.

Regards,
Ryan

#8

Hi :) 
Zotero seems to make the whole thing a lot more flexible and easier to get working the more sensible ways.  If you look through the mailing lists archives then you see pretty much all questions about end-notes are magically resolved when the person started using Zotero.

Even though i have never used it and don't need end-notes in the types of documents i produce an barely remember it's name until someone else mentions it i still really recommend giving it a go asap. 
Regards from
Tom:)