Can someone explain https://translations.documentfoundation.org/de/libo_help/translate.html#filter=incomplete&unit=45962232, please?

Hello @ll,
If you go to
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/de/libo_help/translate.html#filter=incomplete&unit=45962232,
then the text reads
<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges' all border properties are identical
(same style, width, color, padding and shadow), then those two
ranges will be considered to be part of the same border group and
rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote
. I am not sure, what this text wants to tell me ... :frowning: Would it be
the same as
<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges share a border, all border properties
are identical (same style, width, color, padding and shadow). Those
two ranges will be considered to be part of the same border group
and rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote>
? I seem to understand, what this text wants to tell the well-
disposed reader / translator, but ... It sounds a little bit strange
to me ... :wink: Or am I completely wrong here with my version of the
text? If I am, it would be nice, if someone can explain it for me,
as I want to translate as precise as possible ... :wink:
Sorry for the inconvenience
Thomas.

Hi Thomas,

Hello @ll,
If you go to
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/de/libo_help/translate.html#filter=incomplete&unit=45962232,
then the text reads
<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges' all border properties are identical
(same style, width, color, padding and shadow), then those two
ranges will be considered to be part of the same border group and
rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote
. I am not sure, what this text wants to tell me ... :frowning: Would it be
the same as
<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges share a border, all border properties
are identical (same style, width, color, padding and shadow). Those
two ranges will be considered to be part of the same border group
and rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote>
? I seem to understand, what this text wants to tell the well-
disposed reader / translator, but ... It sounds a little bit strange
to me ... :wink: Or am I completely wrong here with my version of the
text? If I am, it would be nice, if someone can explain it for me,
as I want to translate as precise as possible ... :wink:

I think that this is an object oriented text :wink:
May be simplified : if two adjacent text ranges share a border, the two
borders properties are identical. There will be one group of borders for
the two ranges of text and only one border rendered (drawn) in the document.

Cheers
Sophie

Hello Sophie, *,

If you go to

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/de/libo_help/translate.html#filter=incomplete&unit=45962232,

then the text reads
<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges' all border properties are identical
(same style, width, color, padding and shadow), then those two
ranges will be considered to be part of the same border group and
rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote
. I am not sure, what this text wants to tell me ... :frowning: Would it
be the same as
<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges share a border, all border properties
are identical (same style, width, color, padding and shadow).
Those two ranges will be considered to be part of the same border
group and rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote>
? I seem to understand, what this text wants to tell the well-
disposed reader / translator, but ... It sounds a little bit
strange to me ... :wink: Or am I completely wrong here with my
version of the text? If I am, it would be nice, if someone can
explain it for me, as I want to translate as precise as possible
... :wink:

I think that this is an object oriented text :wink:

O.K. That was my guess, too ... :wink:

May be simplified : if two adjacent text ranges share a border,
the two borders properties are identical. There will be one group
of borders for the two ranges of text and only one border rendered
(drawn) in the document.

Thanks for your explanation :slight_smile: But how should we handle this text?
Open a feature request to improve it?
Thanks again
Thomas.

Hi Thomas, *,

<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges' all border properties are identical
(same style, width, color, padding and shadow), then those two
ranges will be considered to be part of the same border group and
rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote
. I am not sure, what this text wants to tell me ... :frowning: Would it be
the same as
<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges share a border, all border properties
are identical (same style, width, color, padding and shadow). Those
two ranges will be considered to be part of the same border group
and rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote>

No, not the same. It says: If two overlapping/touching portions of
text have both (individually) a border with the same properties
assigned, then those two textportions will be treated as one single
range with one single border.
Similar to paragraph borders are merged when paragraphs with border
are touching, the same occurs for character borders.

http://zolnaitamas.blogspot.de/2013/09/gsoc-2013-character-border.html

should make it more clear. Esp. the effect caused by different text-heights.

The english text is awkward, as there is a bug in word oder (at least
to my non-native-english-ear):

"If two adjacent text ranges' all border properties are identical"

is weired, to be it should be

"If two adjacent text ranges' border properties are all identical"

or simpler, although less explicit re "all":

"If two adjacent text ranges have the same border properties"

ciao
Christian

Hello Christian, *,

<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges' all border properties are identical
(same style, width, color, padding and shadow), then those two
ranges will be considered to be part of the same border group and
rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote
. I am not sure, what this text wants to tell me ... :frowning: Would it
be the same as
<quote>
If two adjacent text ranges share a border, all border properties
are identical (same style, width, color, padding and shadow).
Those two ranges will be considered to be part of the same border
group and rendered within the same border in the document.
</quote>

No, not the same. It says: If two overlapping/touching portions of
text have both (individually) a border with the same properties
assigned, then those two textportions will be treated as one
single range with one single border.

ah, O.K.

Similar to paragraph borders are merged when paragraphs with
border are touching, the same occurs for character borders.

O.K.

http://zolnaitamas.blogspot.de/2013/09/gsoc-2013-character-border.html

should make it more clear. Esp. the effect caused by different
text-heights.

I will have a look at it later ... :wink:

The english text is awkward, as there is a bug in word oder (at
least to my non-native-english-ear):

:slight_smile:

"If two adjacent text ranges' all border properties are identical"

is weired, to be it should be

"If two adjacent text ranges' border properties are all identical"

or simpler, although less explicit re "all":

"If two adjacent text ranges have the same border properties"

Thank you for your explanation :slight_smile:
Thomas.

Hi :slight_smile:
I much prefer the 2nd alternative

"If two adjacent text ranges have the same border properties"

It looks much more elegant and makes much more sense. The original is
really difficult to understand.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: