can you have both OOo and LibreOffice installed into Ubuntu?

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#1

Can you have both OOo and LibreOffice installed on Ubuntu?

I know that Go-oo and OOo look the same and use the same
menu and folders for Ubuntu. I was wondering if LibreOffice
will use a different set of folders and such so I can install it
along side OOo 3.2.1 on my Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit desktop.

I am not a "expert" with Linux so it was "hard" for me to
figure out how to get Go-oo off my system and put OOo
from OOo's web site onto my system. It would be nice
to have OOo on Ubuntu's repository and be able to choose
which version to use.

I did read that Ubuntu was thinking about placing LibreOffice
in its repository. I do hope that you will be able to choose
between version/branches of OOo, or be able to have both
OOo and LibreOffice installed at the same time.

So the question still is, can you have both OOo and LibreOffice
installed into Ubuntu?

Please make any instructions easy to use.
Between a stroke and my "beginner-ish" knowledge of Ubuntu [or Linux],
I need complete instructions that are easy to understand.

#2

The easiest way to install LibO is to download, and use Archive Manager to Extract the files. Open a terminal session and cd to the DEBS folder where the files were extracted. Then type in sudo dpkg -i *.deb and press enter. Enter your password. When the process is completed cd to the desktop-integration folder and rerun the dpkg -i *.deb command.
The install places files in a different location than OOo so there is no conflict between them. Do be advised that there are a lot of pre-installed extensions that increase the size of the download.

HTH
Andy

#3

I'm running Debian Testing (Squeeze/Sid) and have both the repository
version of OO.o and the RC1 of LO installed on the machine. Each has
their own DOT folder (.libreoffice and .openoffice.org) in which the
configurations are kept.

To install the .deb package(s) of LO, download the Linux .tar.gz
(LibO_3.3.0rc1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz . Look on the
download page near the bottom for the Debian download), place it in a
directory and unarchive it (file roller works well for this). It
creates a directory called LibO_3.3.0rc1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US in
which are 3 other directories. Go to the DEBS directory and you will
see a BUNCH of .deb files and a directory (remember the directory, we'll
get back to that in a minute.

Open a terminal (probably in your Applications menu, near the bottom)
and path to the directory where you've unarchived the .tar.gz. (cd
[name of the directory]). In the terminal type sudo dpkg -i .deb (you
can copy and paste it from this post, if you like). It will ask for
your password (same password you use to log into Ubuntu). It will run
for a couple of minutes. When it stops LO will be installed and you
will be back to the prompt in the terminal (The prompt should be [your
name]@[name of your computer]:~[directory name]$ )

NOW we'll talk about that other directory in the DEBS directory, called
desktop-integration. Path into it (cd desktop-integration) and use the
same command that you used to install the .debs before (sudo dpkg -i
.deb). This will install the icons and menu connections for you in
Applications -> Office.

After that, you're on your own. You will notice that you have icons for
both LO and OO.o in Applications -> Office. At this point, they are
pretty compatible.

Good luck

Craig
Tyche

#4

PS: When LO is installed, you can delete the directory you made to
unarchive the .tar.gz

Craig

#5

Can you have both OOo and LibreOffice installed on Ubuntu?

:

The easiest way to install LibO is to download, and use Archive Manager to
Extract the files.  Open a terminal session and cd to the DEBS folder where
the files were extracted.  Then type in  sudo dpkg -i *.deb  and press
enter.  Enter your password.  When the process is completed cd to the
 desktop-integration  folder and rerun the  dpkg -i *.deb  command.
The install places files in a different location than OOo so there is no
conflict between them.  Do be advised that there are a lot of pre-installed
extensions that increase the size of the download.

Just be aware that this will not necessarily change the default
program to open document files to LO - you (may) have to do that
manually in Nautilus for Gnome (not sure about KDE).

#6

Thanks. This is the first day I am using this list and the
archive threads about Debian LO did not seem to answer the
question of having both OOo and LO installed.

I do like that fact that LO will use a different folder option
from OOo. Go-oo uses the same as OOo and Ubuntu repository
calls Go-oo by the name of openoffice in the repository.

I want to try LO and see if I will use it over OOo and see if
I will be telling my friends and old business contacts to try
or switch to LO instead of OOo.

#7

:
<huge encapsulated thread of mostly irrelevant dettails>
:

Would you mind editing out that which is not essential to
understanding your posts in the future?

Thanks.

#8

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Why all this tedium of installing twice? sudo dpkg -iR ./DEBS from the
immediately superior directory does the same job in one go.

Peter HB

#9

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Open a terminal (probably in your Applications menu, near the
bottom) and path to the directory where you've unarchived the
.tar.gz. (cd [name of the directory]). In the terminal type sudo
dpkg -i .deb (you can copy and paste it from this post, if you like).
It will ask for your password (same password you use to log into
Ubuntu). It will run for a couple of minutes. When it stops LO will
be installed and you will be back to the prompt in the terminal (The
prompt should be [your name]@[name of your computer]:~[directory
name]$ )

NOW we'll talk about that other directory in the DEBS directory,
called desktop-integration. Path into it (cd desktop-integration)
and use the same command that you used to install the .debs before
(sudo dpkg -i .deb). This will install the icons and menu
connections for you in Applications -> Office.

[cut]
Why all this tedium of installing twice? sudo dpkg -iR ./DEBS from the
immediately superior directory does the same job in one go.

Peter HB

I know for OOo, you need to install the main DEBs and then need
to install the DEB menu or desktop integration file[s]. They are in
separate folders and must be done separately.

It that what you mean by installing twice?

I never seen the dpkg -iR ./DEBS terminal command before.
Of course, I have little references to the terminal in my thick
Ubuntu book. It has been a long while I have used a command
line based command system. It has been since PC-DOS days
for desktops and DEC and IBM mainframe days for the other
systems. So I need to learn Ubuntu's terminal commands and
how to use them correctly.

Actually I will be backing up my files and data soon and then
wiping my Ubuntu system to re-install Ubuntu to fix some
errors that cannot be fixed in any way I know of. backup
to an external 1 TB and then wipe the internal 1 TB and reinstall
everything. I may drop OOo for LO at that point, if I like it
better. I should be dual booting the system with 64-bit Ubuntu
and 64-bit XP at this point so I will need to install LO on both
OSs.

#10

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I know for OOo, you need to install the main DEBs and then need to
install the DEB menu or desktop integration file[s]. They are in
separate folders and must be done separately.

It depends upon the location to which they are extracted.

It that what you mean by installing twice?

I never seen the dpkg -iR ./DEBS terminal command before. Of course,
I have little references to the terminal in my thick Ubuntu book. It
has been a long while I have used a command line based command
system. It has been since PC-DOS days for desktops and DEC and IBM
mainframe days for the other systems. So I need to learn Ubuntu's
terminal commands and how to use them correctly.

dpkg --help will answer all questions. This is a function of dpkg and is nothing to do with Ubuntu. Suffice to say, the 'R' option causes dpkg to recursively install all .debs is the target directory.

Peter HB

#11

Thanks everyone

I installed the 64-bit RC1 on my Ubuntu desktop today.
It seemed to pickup some of my OOo package options - like in the name
section.

I will be testing it out over the next few weeks.
Do OOo extensions still work with LO? I have a bunch of them I use.
I will see about that soon.

#12

Yes, they still work. In fact, LO may have picked them up, too.

Craig
Tyche