Cannot edit a template ott file

users
#1

In my Debian Jessie box I wanted to edit an ott template file. After
however selecting the one I wanted to edit, clicking on the edit
button did not open it. This fault I encountered only after upgrading
on 2016-06-30 to LibreOffice 1:5.1.4-rc2-2~bpo8+1 from 1:5.1.2-3~bpo8+1
.

#2

Hi Ken and all:

It would be because the template is only for read, not for edit. In this
case you have to save with other name and then edit.

I hope this help,

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

#3

What is the sense of having an edit button if it cannot be used to
edit something, in this case ott files?

Ken

#4

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Hi Ken and all:

It would be because the template is only for read, not for edit. In
this case you have to save with other name and then edit.

I hope this help,

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

What is the sense of having an edit button if it cannot be used to
edit something, in this case ott files?

Ken

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2

iEYEARECAAYFAlf2vbwACgkQlNlJzOkJmTckCQCeK9dvOPbn0yh+9tQP/l/Tgh58
bQ4An3QLzuuC8ieEStbQ5r8X0/Ln+2d0
=HuJ8
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Ken,

Well, you can do that. But I think it will become a document (odt), not a template (ott). Templates are treated differently than documents in LO, so you can't just open and save them like documents. No, the best way to edit templates is through the Template Manager.

From the main page (no open documents) try Templates > Edit Templates and select the template you want to edit.

Or if a document is open, use File > Templates > Manage. In the Template Manager, select the template to edit then select the "Edit" button to open it for editing.

When you save the edited template, use the Save or Save As button as you would a document. There are probably other ways to do this, but I think the key here is to make sure you open the template with the Template Manger, not like a regular document.

Note that if you make a template from a document, you must use the File > Templates > Save as Template process, not just save a document with a .ott suffix.

HTH.

Girvin Herr

#5

See my comments inline.

What is the sense of having an edit button if it cannot be used to
edit something, in this case ott files?

Ken

Ken,

Well, you can do that. But I think it will become a document
(odt), not a template (ott). Templates are treated differently
than documents in LO, so you can't just open and save them like
documents.

Yes, I was aware of the difference.

No, the best

way to edit templates is through the Template Manager.

Agreed. That is what I am trying to do.

From the main page (no open documents) try Templates > Edit
Templates and select the template you want to edit.

Presumably after selecting the wanted template the last step is to
click on the "Edit" button at the top of the window. That is what I
cannot do; clicking on the "Edit" button produces no result; the
desired template does NOT open. Reporting this problem was the reason
for my original post.

Or if a document is open, use File > Templates > Manage. In the
Template Manager, select the template to edit then select the
"Edit" button to open it for editing.

In this situation I get the same result. Clicking on "Edit" does NOT
open the Selected template.

When you save the edited template, use the Save or Save As button
as you would a document.

I would dearly like to get to this point.

There are probably other ways to do this, but I think the key here
is to make sure you open the template with the Template Manger, not
like a regular document.

I would also dearly like to open the template manager to allow me to
create a new template or edit an existing one. What other ways exist?

> Note that if you make a template from a document, you must use the Fi
le

Templates > Save as Template process, not just save a document
with a

.ott suffix.

I have managed to save a template from an existing document, but I
cannot edit such a template for the reason several times already
described.

Regards, Ken

#6

The Help says open with Ctrl+Shift+N. It worked for me,

was able to edit a template.

Gordon.

#7

That (Ctrl-Shift-N) is what I did use and got the results (non-results
really) I described in my last post,

Ken

#8

Suppose you create a document from an existing template, and then save a new template from that document (both of which processes you appear to be able to do). You would end up with a new template identical to the first. If you edit the document before saving the template from it, you get an edited version of the template.

Is this a workaround?

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

#9

Ken,
           I'll admit to not knowing LO very well, do most of my work
in Lyx, so one of the guru's may correct me.

I believe that your problems are in the save procedure. When you edit
one of your custom templates, LO will be handling it as an .odt, which
is normal. If you do a Save As .ott you'll be asked where to put it. Unless
you specify exactly where, your edited template will probably be saved somewhere
in Documents and thus will _not_ be recalled if you type Ctrl+Shift+N. It thus
appears to you that the edit has not worked.

For your template to be selected by Ctrl+ etc. it needs to be saved in the
Users Templates sub-folder. This is vaguely explained in the Help. Look
at Tools>Options>LibreOffice>Paths for the exact address.

Gordon.