Change Page Margin on Second Page in MS Word Document

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#1

Is there a way to change the page margin of the second page in a Microsoft Word document using LibreOffice? (I have to keep this document in Word *.doc)

When I change the margin via "Page Style" or "Insert Manual Break" the margins will revert once I save, close, and re-open to document.

I need to have a smaller margin on the second page because the corporate letterhead of the first page has a large footer; and the letterhead for the second (and subsequent) page has no footer, and I need to be able to use the extra available space on the second page.

Any help would be much appreciated...

#2

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Is there a way to change the page margin of the second page in a Microsoft Word document using LibreOffice? (I have to keep this document in Word *.doc)

When I change the margin via "Page Style" or "Insert Manual Break" the margins will revert once I save, close, and re-open to document.

I need to have a smaller margin on the second page because the corporate letterhead of the first page has a large footer; and the letterhead for the second (and subsequent) page has no footer, and I need to be able to use the extra available space on the second page.

Any help would be much appreciated...

If I understand correctly, you have a first page of a letter with letterhead information at the foot of the page. I wonder if some information appears as a header, for instance the name of the company or "From the desk of" which is the same on all pages?

If this is the case, I think you can do this with a simple template, in which you turn on the footer and include your company information there, and mark the footer to be on page one only, but I'm not sure about exactly which steps you need to take to achieve this effect.

Hopefully the template experts will be hard on my heels to assist.

//James

#3

All pages used in a document have the same margins. That said headers/footers sit within the margins so the pages without a header or footer have more space to for text.

#4

He didn't see your reply, Andy. He's not subscribed.

//J

#5

I would go with a table on the one page that needs the different margins.

On 10/29/2010 9:46 AM, Peter Lairo wrote:Is there a way to change the page margin of the second page in a Microsoft Word document using LibreOffice? (I have to keep this document in Word *.doc)

When I change the margin via "Page Style" or "Insert Manual Break" the margins will revert once I save, close, and re-open to document.

I need to have a smaller margin on the second page because the corporate letterhead of the first page has a large footer; and the letterhead for the second (and subsequent) page has no footer, and I need to be able to use the extra available space on the second page.

Any help would be much appreciated...

#6

He didn't see your reply, Andy. He's not subscribed.

Ugh; these lists still do that? [like the 'old' OOo lists]. I was
hoping the stupid moderating-in of off-list messages would go away.

#7

I do not know how you know that but from what I see, http://gmane.org/ , he does not have to be.

I would like to know where the "moderator" tag is?

Andy

#8

Forgive me for being parochial about this, but:

a) People who are not subscribed to a list should not expect to
receive help from same list. You want help? Participate, don't
leech.

b) If there is in fact such an expectation, said people should at
least self-identify so the rest of us will understand and respond
accordingly.

Is that unreasonable? I've been doing this for over 30 years and it's
always been that way on the lists to which I subscribe.

Mark

#9

He didn't see your reply, Andy. He's not subscribed.
//J

I do not know how you know that but from what I see, http://gmane.org/ , he does not have to be.

I'm the moderator who approved his post. :slight_smile:

I would like to know where the "moderator" tag is?

There isn't one that is easily identifiable in the header, and we can't add one. This is a different list software from the OOo list.

//James

#10

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That is not necessary. I read these posts with a newsreader (Thunderbird) in the newsgroup[1][2].

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Is there a way to change the page margin of the second page in a Microsoft Word document using LibreOffice? (I have to keep this document in Word *.doc)

When I change the margin via "Page Style" or "Insert Manual Break" the margins will revert once I save, close, and re-open to document.

I need to have a smaller margin on the second page because the corporate letterhead of the first page has a large footer; and the letterhead for the second (and subsequent) page has no footer, and I need to be able to use the extra available space on the second page.

Any help would be much appreciated...

If I understand correctly, you have a first page of a letter with letterhead information at the foot of the page. I wonder if some information appears as a header, for instance the name of the company or "From the desk of" which is the same on all pages?

If this is the case, I think you can do this with a simple template, in which you turn on the footer and include your company information there, and mark the footer to be on page one only, but I'm not sure about exactly which steps you need to take to achieve this effect.

Hopefully the template experts will be hard on my heels to assist.

I'll try to follow your suggestion of using footers to workaround this limitation. Now I need to figure out how to define different footer sizes for different pages...

Thanks for the pointer! :slight_smile:

#11

You will need to define a page style for each. Also see my prior post.

HTH

#12

He didn't see your reply, Andy. He's not subscribed.
//J

I do not know how you know that but from what I see, http://gmane.org/ , he does not have to be.

I'm the moderator who approved his post. :slight_smile:

OK. :slight_smile:

I would like to know where the "moderator" tag is?

There isn't one that is easily identifiable in the header, and we can't add one. This is a different list software from the OOo list.

I guess we will be left guessing them. :frowning:

Andy

#13

This can be solved by using different page formats for your pages.
That's how I keep the headers and footers of my book title pages.

Define (or use) a page format for the first page, then modify that
page format to go to your default (or next) format next, and so on.
The only problem with this approach is that I think the page format
links have to be linear, so you can't just switch back and forth.

Mark

#14

I tried it and here is what works. Note that my version of LibreOffice is configured in French so my translations might be approximate.

1. In LibreOffice, define your page styles according to what you want.
Define "FirstPage" with your corporate logo and appropriate margins for the first page.
Define "Standard" with the appropriate margins for other pages and, if appropriate, different headers for right and left pages.

2. When you are near the end of the page, insert a manual page break, and -- here is the key point -- manually change the style of the page; that way, the Word document will have a section break rather than a page break. So, for example, change paragraph, then open "Paragraph Format" and select the "Text Flow" tab. then insert a page break with paragraph style "Standard".
Now it works.

P.S. Tried with LibreOffice and Microsoft Office 2003 on Windows 7 platform.