default type and setting for pasting

Hi,

how do I set a default pasting type so that when pasting, only the text
itself is pasted and not the formatting with it?

How do I make it so that text, when pasted with the mouse, is inserted
at the position of the text cursor where it´s supposed to be inserted,
rather than where the mouse pointer happens to be?

From what I know you have to use Paste Special for what you want to do. Paste Special
has several options that you must choose from, so you cannot "set it" to do only one
of those things every time.
Hmmm. On the second one, I don't ever remember seeing that happen. But then I am
usually using the mouse to either hit the paste button, or right clicking to select
paste. And it always pastes where the text cursor is.
Roxy

Hi,

how do I set a default pasting type so that when pasting, only the text
itself is pasted and not the formatting with it?

How do I make it so that text, when pasted with the mouse, is inserted
at the position of the text cursor where it´s supposed to be inserted,
rather than where the mouse pointer happens to be?

Roxy Robinson wrote:

From what I know you have to use Paste Special for what you want to do. Paste Special
has several options that you must choose from, so you cannot "set it" to do only one

Just to elaborate: you can perform a "Paste Special" by pressing
CTRL+SHIFT+V (instead of the regular paste, which is CTRL+V). There
should then be an option "Unformatted text".

Regards
Stephan

And at least on the Mac you can press Cmd+Shift+Alt+V and the text will be inserted at the cursor point in the format of the document you are pasting to, not the format of the text in the document you took it from. This is apparently not documented anywhere. Very useful. But I've not been able to find a way to change the key combination to something simpler. If you're not using a Mac, you can test Ctrl+Shift+Alt+V and maybe let us know.

Presumably there is a key combination which would paste it in the format of the originating document, but who on earth would want that? :slight_smile:

//James

James Wilde <james.wilde@sunde-wilde.com> writes:

Roxy Robinson wrote:

From what I know you have to use Paste Special for what you want to do. Paste Special
has several options that you must choose from, so you cannot "set it" to do only one

Just to elaborate: you can perform a "Paste Special" by pressing
CTRL+SHIFT+V (instead of the regular paste, which is CTRL+V). There
should then be an option "Unformatted text".

And at least on the Mac you can press Cmd+Shift+Alt+V and the text will be inserted at the cursor point in the format of the document you are pasting to, not the format of the text in the document you took it from. This is apparently not documented anywhere. Very useful. But I've not been able to find a way to change the key combination to something simpler. If you're not using a Mac, you can test Ctrl+Shift+Alt+V and maybe let us know.

Presumably there is a key combination which would paste it in the format of the originating document, but who on earth would want that? :slight_smile:

To copy and paste some text, I move the mouse pointer over the text
while pressing the left button. To paste, I move the mouse pointer over
the window I want to paste into and press the middle button to have the
text inserted where the cursor is.

It is as simple and efficient as that. It doesn´t work with LO (and some
other misdesigned applications) because the text isn´t inserted where
the cursor is but, illogically, where the mouse pointer happens to
be. It doesn´t work with LO in particular because attributes of the text
are also pasted, and 99.99999% of the time I don´t want the attributes
to be pasted.

Having to go through menus and pop-up windows and having to select some
options is way too much fuss and horribly inefficient. Switching back
and forth between trackball and keyboard isn´t any better.

It´s several short lines of text I need to get into my document from a
page displayed in the web browser, i. e. a street address and a name or
two, one after another. Since copy and paste is broken, I can only type
them in, which is annoying and prone to errors.

Can´t they just fix it so that copy and paste works as can be expected?

But to answer the original question, you still have to choose an option from several
items. This still does not let you have "unformatted text" through one step. You have
to choose Paste Special (whichever way you select it), and then make a choice from
several options. I "guess" you might be able to write a macro to do that, but I don't
use macros enough to say you could do that or not.
Roxy

Roxy Robinson wrote:

From what I know you have to use Paste Special for what you want to do. Paste

Special

has several options that you must choose from, so you cannot "set it" to do only

one

Just to elaborate: you can perform a "Paste Special" by pressing
CTRL+SHIFT+V (instead of the regular paste, which is CTRL+V). There
should then be an option "Unformatted text".

Regards
Stephan

Hi,

lee schrieb:

Hi,

how do I set a default pasting type so that when pasting, only the text
itself is pasted and not the formatting with it?

In Writer it is STRG+Alt+Shift+V. If you do not like this key-combination, you can assign a new one in Tools > Customize > Keyboard.

Kind regards
Regina

Hi Regina, *,

Hi,

lee schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> how do I set a default pasting type so that when pasting, only the text
> itself is pasted and not the formatting with it?

In Writer it is STRG+Alt+Shift+V. If you do not like this
key-combination, you can assign a new one in Tools > Customize > Keyboard.

Oh, you have STRG only on German keybords, on many other keyboards it is the CTRL key. So the combination would then be CTRL+ALT+Shift+V.

HTH

Sigrid

Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com> writes:

But to answer the original question, you still have to choose an
option from several items.

Yeah, and I don´t want to do that. My default for pasting is pasting the
text only, and I want it to be as simple as it´s always.

Of course I need the inserted text to look as specified by the document
for the place where it´s inserted and not any different. Anything else
screws up my document.

LO does it the other way round so that pasting screws up the document by
default. I would call that a bug.

Since there might be cases in which it can be useful to be able to keep
the attributes of something you paste, it is a nice option to
have. That´s fine as long as the users can decide what they want to be
the default.

Hi :slight_smile:
There are a lot of options in
Tools - Options
to help make Calc more compatible with Excel. There might be one that makes
formulas and dates use Excel systems?
Regards form
Tom :slight_smile:

Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@t-online.de> writes:

Hi,

lee schrieb:

Hi,

how do I set a default pasting type so that when pasting, only the text
itself is pasted and not the formatting with it?

In Writer it is STRG+Alt+Shift+V. If you do not like this
key-combination, you can assign a new one in Tools > Customize >
Keyboard.

Why is the window to make such settings not resizeable? It´s way too
small.

Anyway, how do I make it so that unformatted text is pasted with the
middle mouse button?

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From: lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Mon, 20 June, 2011 17:51:01
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] default type and setting for pasting

Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@t-online.de> writes:

Hi,

lee schrieb:

Hi,

how do I set a default pasting type so that when pasting, only the text
itself is pasted and not the formatting with it?

In Writer it is STRG+Alt+Shift+V. If you do not like this
key-combination, you can assign a new one in Tools > Customize >
Keyboard.

Why is the window to make such settings not resizeable? It´s way too
small.

Anyway, how do I make it so that unformatted text is pasted with the
middle mouse button?

Hi :slight_smile:
It might be possible to do that at the OS level. Which OS are you using; a
Windows, Ubuntu, another gnu&linux, Bsd or Mac? Usually the middle button or
clicking on the scroll wheel, is called the 3rd mouse button.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Again, I don't have, nor never had the problem you talk about of where your copied
material gets pasted. If I am copying, say, an address from a web page to a
spreadsheet, I select and copy the material from the web page. Usually, I have
already selected the cell in the spreadsheet where I want it to go and this has
"highlighted" that cell - bolded its outline. When I "move" to the spreadsheet that
cell is still selected. I then use Paste Special > Unformatted Text and whatever I
copied from the web page falls right into the cell that I had previously selected. I
really don't know how you could make that any simpler. I have been doing this type
thing over and over and over for well over 10 years and have never had the problem
you state - and that goes all the way back to Win98 and before. You could use just
Paste, but you have the possibility off bringing along web formatting that you are
not aware of and could become quite a hassle down the road in your spreadsheet. As
you can see when you use Paste Special there can be up to 3 or 4 different ways to
paste. To do this in one step they would have to add a "button" for each of those
ways of pasting.
To really see the difference each one of those options in Paste Special makes open a
new document on your desktop. Then select a half page or so of material from a web
page. Then use Paste Special and the first option to paste that material. Then hit
Undo. Then use Paste Special again with the second option to paste the same material
again. Then Undo again. Do this for each option available in Paste Special. Then
think about what you might be pasting into, say, a spreadsheet by not using these
options to Paste Special. And they will most likely by "unseen". I did not realize
the full capabilities of Paste Special - and why my material sometimes looked so
"funky" - until I did this exact thing several years ago.
Roxy

James Wilde <james.wilde@sunde-wilde.com> writes:

Roxy Robinson wrote:

From what I know you have to use Paste Special for what you want to do. Paste

Special

has several options that you must choose from, so you cannot "set it" to do only

one

Just to elaborate: you can perform a "Paste Special" by pressing
CTRL+SHIFT+V (instead of the regular paste, which is CTRL+V). There
should then be an option "Unformatted text".

And at least on the Mac you can press Cmd+Shift+Alt+V and the text will be inserted

at the cursor point in the format of the document you are pasting to, not the format
of the text in the document you took it from. This is apparently not documented
anywhere. Very useful. But I've not been able to find a way to change the key
combination to something simpler. If you're not using a Mac, you can test
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+V and maybe let us know.

Presumably there is a key combination which would paste it in the format of the

originating document, but who on earth would want that? :slight_smile:

To copy and paste some text, I move the mouse pointer over the text
while pressing the left button. To paste, I move the mouse pointer over
the window I want to paste into and press the middle button to have the
text inserted where the cursor is.

It is as simple and efficient as that. It doesn´t work with LO (and some
other misdesigned applications) because the text isn´t inserted where
the cursor is but, illogically, where the mouse pointer happens to
be. It doesn´t work with LO in particular because attributes of the text
are also pasted, and 99.99999% of the time I don´t want the attributes
to be pasted.

Having to go through menus and pop-up windows and having to select some
options is way too much fuss and horribly inefficient. Switching back
and forth between trackball and keyboard isn´t any better.

It´s several short lines of text I need to get into my document from a
page displayed in the web browser, i. e. a street address and a name or
two, one after another. Since copy and paste is broken, I can only type
them in, which is annoying and prone to errors.

Can´t they just fix it so that copy and paste works as can be expected?

Well, as far back as I can remember that is how Paste Special has worked, and in
whatever programs I have ever used. Its not a bug, its the way it works. In some
cases you might want to bring all the "info" to be pasted and in others, as in your
case, and in most of mine, you only want unformatted text.
Roxy

Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com> writes:

But to answer the original question, you still have to choose an
option from several items.

Yeah, and I don´t want to do that. My default for pasting is pasting the
text only, and I want it to be as simple as it´s always.

Of course I need the inserted text to look as specified by the document
for the place where it´s inserted and not any different. Anything else
screws up my document.

LO does it the other way round so that pasting screws up the document by
default. I would call that a bug.

Since there might be cases in which it can be useful to be able to keep
the attributes of something you paste, it is a nice option to
have. That´s fine as long as the users can decide what they want to be
the default.

Yeah, Tom. I think it would depend both on the OS, and the mouse capabilities. But
the problem, even with this, is that, as far as I know there isn't any KEY
COMBINATION for the various OPTIONS WITHIN PASTE SPECIAL. There is the key
combination that will "bring up" Paste Special, but once that window is open YOU HAVE
TO MANUALLY SELECT WHICH OF THOSE OPTIONS YOU WANT. There is no KEY COMBINATION FOR
EACH OF THOSE OPTIONS. So how would you set anything - a mouse movement, a macro, etc
- to choose each one of those options???
Roxy

Hi :slight_smile:
Hmm, that's a problem. The dialogue box usually defaults to whichever option
happened to have been used last. Not very predictable!
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Did you try CTRL+ALT+Shift+V, which was suggested in another post?

Larry

Tom,
I could be wrong here - am just going by what I seem to remember. It seems that the
options available depend upon what is selected. I say that because I think I remember
that the same options are not always there. In other words, if there is absolutely no
html within the selection, that option may not be in the popup window. And I'm saying
this only because I'm fairly certain I have seen a different number of options there
before.
Roxy

Hi :slight_smile:
Hmm, that's a problem. The dialogue box usually defaults to whichever option
happened to have been used last. Not very predictable!
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi :slight_smile:
Gnome has some fairly sophisticated "clipboard managers". It might be worth
googling for "clipboard managers" to see if there is something suitable for your
OS. In gnu&linux just search in your package manager.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi,

[…] But
the problem, even with this, is that, as far as I know there isn't any KEY
COMBINATION for the various OPTIONS WITHIN PASTE SPECIAL. There is the key
combination that will "bring up" Paste Special, but once that window is open YOU HAVE
TO MANUALLY SELECT WHICH OF THOSE OPTIONS YOU WANT. There is no KEY COMBINATION FOR
EACH OF THOSE OPTIONS. So how would you set anything - a mouse movement, a macro, etc
- to choose each one of those options???

You can use the following key combinations for 'Paste unformatted text':

(1) Default: Ctrl+Alt+Shift+V

(2) Ctrl+Shift+V, U, Enter

(3) Record (2) as macro, and a assign a user-defined shortcut key
[my shortcut key: Ctrl+U]

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