Delete Key Does Not Work in OS X

I'm using LO version 3.4.0 on OS X (latest version of OS X 10.6.8)

I've switched from OOo to LO. Under OOo, if I hit the DELETE key, it would delete the character in front of the cursor and the BACKSPACE key would delete the one behind the cursor.

Now, on LO, the BACKSPACE key works, but the DELETE key will not delete the next character. I had to kill a definition for the key and it still won't delete the next character.

I've Googled, but not found anything helpful.

Any suggestions?

Thank you!

Hal

Hi :slight_smile:
My Del key works on Windows Xp, Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10. Both Ubuntu machines
use LibreOffice 3.3.2. The Xp machines use 3.3.3.

I think the problem is something to do with download or install problems. Do
you still have OpenOffice installed on your system and does that still work
fine? If it is still installed that can create problems for LibreOffice
especially if OpenOffice's "Quick Start" is always on. If you uninstalled
OpenOffice are your certain you fully uninstalled it?

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Eagerly awaited - for a LO working mail merge from the newly released 3.4.1

Before I did this test, I completely cleaned 3.3.3 using revo-uninstaller to ensure a completely new install.

The 1st thing I did was to view existing mail merge data files from 3.3.3 - they were still all screwed up as before. I therefore deleted them, so at to not cause further confusion and start again from new. However, I could not find a way of deleting the old files from the internal list (there is no remove button), once I looked at them.

I started from fresh, I created a standard 2 name data base for Mr Smith & Mr Blogs.

I did this with ease. Now when the MM came to the part that places the data on the letter (6. Edit Document), a few strange things happened, the address line 2, the County and Company names were not present, the post code came before the town name and the title "Mr" is on a separate line to his name.

This is where you have a learn a new "game" called shuffle and add the field names. So you go back to "3. Insert Address Block", go into edit mode and play with the arrows and create a standard address pattern (which you would have thought would be the default). I considered that this could this be deliberate (because they are so bad) - so as to force you to look and make your own? However, you will only have to do this once, as LO remembers this layout for the next time.

Then Create Salutation (tick the boxes), >Adjust layout (I did not use this), > then Edit document

In Edit Document the Field Names are deposited on your letter for the 1st time, the next thing you notice is the weird Spacing between the address lines, you cannot adjust this in the document directly (its frozen), so you have to go to the Edit Document's:- "Edit Document" > (right click)> Edit Paragraph style> indents & spacing > Below Paragraph > set to 0.00cm - This puts it back to the letter default.

Then Personalise Document (this prints all your letters) - this is where you now can see (WYSIWYG) for the 1st time, the full document that will be printed and you realise that there are no spaces or comma's between the fields hence the 1st line looks like MrJohnSmith.

To resolve this, you have to go back to Edit Document to put in spaces (and comma's). I could find no way of doing this at making / inserting address block stage, so you will always need to do this on each new mail merge.

I saved and Exited

I then realised that there were no name(s) after the salutation Dear ......, so I went back and tried unsuccessfully to insert it again, the moment you go from Edit Document (where the Dear Mr Smith exists) to Personalise Document, it disappears ( a Bug me thinks). As a work around, whilst in Edit mode, I copied & pasted the name, this (the name) stayed when I went on to Personalise Document (annoying but it worked). So I would suggest don't use "Create Salutation, make your own, by copying & pasting from the main Address block.

Also, on testing, other previously known bugs:-

As long as you do not click the "Insert address block" on the 2nd time around (leave it greyed out), then it does not insert a 2nd address block AND the links stay in place.

Having exited again, I then edited the data base file (*.csv) by adding a new name (a 3rd name in my case), in the spread sheet format *.csv (it takes a while to find this file and remember to read it in "tab" format). Re- started the mail merge - and it Worked!! - 3 names. So names & addresses can now be entered with ease and without having to open mail merge and mass data can now be pasted into the *csv file - if you so desire!

Summary:-

Other than a few minor niggles and only the one (easy to get around) "bug", that I could find, it's getting there, but most importantly :- its usable.

John B

I am pleased to report that another small step in the right direction for Lotus Wordpro users "Click Here Boxes" are now fully compatible with LO Placeholders. However, you still cannot tab between them (and in a set sequence) as Wordpro, that's only because LO Place holders do not have this facility in the first place (a shame for forms that need to be completed - you just cannot tab to the next box), you have to move & click your mouse instead. Maybe in 3.4.2?

Now if only LO would do Wordpro Document Tabs (divisions) - I have a dream!.

regards

John B
xp pro sp3
LO 3.4.1

John,

You've written two posts by hitting "Reply to:" on another email that's about another subject (About the Delete Key on OS X). While that's an easy way to make sure you get the list address without typing it in, it means your new posts, on totally different topics, are rolled up into this thread about the Delete Key.

That creates a few problems: 1) Those dealing with the thread on Delete Keys are frustrated because that discussion is now taken over by two other topics and it's harder to follow the discussion, and 2) People that are potentially interested in your topics have a good chance of never seeing them because they're folded up in a topic about Delete Keys and OS X. People that may have answers to your questions may never see your posts because they'll be filed under the other topic, so they may see that topic, decide it doesn't apply to them, and delete the entire thread, including your posts.

You can avoid this by not starting new threads by using the "Reply to:" function and just changing the title -- email programs look at data other than the subject to determine topic threads.

Hal

Hi :slight_smile:
My Del key works on Windows Xp, Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10. Both Ubuntu machines
use LibreOffice 3.3.2. The Xp machines use 3.3.3.

I think the problem is something to do with download or install problems. Do
you still have OpenOffice installed on your system and does that still work
fine? If it is still installed that can create problems for LibreOffice
especially if OpenOffice's "Quick Start" is always on. If you uninstalled
OpenOffice are your certain you fully uninstalled it?

I still have OpenOffice installed -- wanted to keep it online "just in case." Also, I am still checking over all the macros. I guess I should just remove OOo, since I'm more likely to fix any macros with issues than go back to OOo. There are only small changes here and there, but LO does seem to just "feel" better than OOo. I don't know why, though.

But, on the other side of things, now that there are no macros assigned to the Delete key, after I closed out LO and started it up this morning, it's working. So I'm writing it up to just config change issues. I doubt I could duplicate the issue again if I had to for bug reporting.

Thanks!

Hal

Hi :slight_smile:
OpenOffice does sometimes conflict with LibreOffice if both are running creating
some very weird problems. There is a guide that helps
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

It makes sense to keep OOo and have a stable LO as well as the latest LO from
the development branch. Often the only noticeable problems stop if you switch
off the "Quick launch" or "Quick Start" thing in OpenOffice so that it is not
running all the time in the background. The guide gives more detail and a more
sophisticated approach to running different versions of LO and OOo on the same
system.

Another (but very inelegant) method would be to keep the downloads and
installers so that you could uninstall ones you aren't currrently using. It's
probably easier to follow the guide tho!

Good luk and regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

I noticed this in the Basic IDE. Now it works for me with 3.4.1 RC3, is that an option for you to at least test?

I went on and uninstalled OOo.

We'll see if that creates a problem, but it hit me that all my important macros are working just fine. (I NEED macros for script writing, since the margin is constantly changing and I can't keep using the mouse to change the margin literally 15 or more times a page -- I'd never get a thing done!)

I did notice one issue: While I had changed the file associations so .doc and .docx files were supposed to open in LO, if it was an email attachment, it was still opening in OOo -- until I deleted OOo and then it opened in LO.

And, yes, I still have the OOo installer.

For some reason, When I went to download LO for OS X, it prompted me for what I now know is the development branch. When the next stable comes out, I'll change to that one.

Thanks for the help and for the guide!

Hal

I may test it, but for now I'm in the middle of a screenplay and want to finish before changing anything.

I'm still playing around with the idea I had for post-it notes that would match each document. (The notes would be stored in the user fields in the file.) While working on that, yes, there were problems in the BASIC IDE, I think one was this issue. I'll be doing more with that later, after I finish my script. (There are issues with that, like having to ReDim arrays whenever a new note is added and having to close all the windows associated with a document whenever that document loses focus and opening them again when it gains focus.)

Hal

Hi :slight_smile:
yw :slight_smile: I think it might be worth looking in "Styles and Templates" (Chapter 3)
in the getting started guide
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/

The word Styles is used very differently from Word and i haven't had time to
explore it at all but from other questions here it sounds as though that or
templates might help you settle the margins issue.

I found that setting the default paper size to A4 rather than US letter size
sorted all that for me but i quite like wide margins
Format - Page - Page (tab)
The top option sets the default paper size (i think)
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Thanks. I had looked through styles, but this works better. For example, whenever a character speaks, I need their name, in caps, in the center of the page. While caps and centering is covered by styles, it's easier to use macros for all margin changes and to use a special one for character names, that types the entire character name AND does the rest. Then all I have to remember is using the modifier key of my choice and 1,2,3 and 4, each for one margin.

Hal

Hi Hal,

I'm using LO version 3.4.0 on OS X (latest version of OS X 10.6.8)

I've switched from OOo to LO. Under OOo, if I hit the DELETE key, it would delete the character in front of the cursor and the BACKSPACE key would delete the one behind the cursor.

Now, on LO, the BACKSPACE key works, but the DELETE key will not delete the next character. I had to kill a definition for the key and it still won't delete the next character.

AFAIK, the key bindings on Mac OSX with LibreOffice have several issues,
one of them being the delete key. You should be able to find a bug issue
already registered in the freedesktop bugzilla.

Alex

I have Libre 3.4.1 on a Mac 10.6.8 and both Back Space and Delete keys work
as normal.
I have only used them in Writer and Calc though.

Tink.