do not upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 with standard resolution widescreen monitor

users
#21

I am warning people.

...

Did you have a question regarding LibreOffice?
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
users@libreoffice.org: User support list for LibreOffice users needing
help with a problem.

I think you're looking for:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
Please read this before posting there:
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists

I thought to warn people here, since many have had Ubuntu issues related to
LibreOffice.

The Ubuntu community does a good job at collecting issues found in
LibreOffice on Ubuntu,
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice
I doubt that there are extensive "Ubuntu issues related to LibreOffice".
There are little that can go wrong with the packaging of LibreOffice
for a distribution.

I thought someone should let the people know they might want to avoid
upgrading to 11.04 for now.  There are enough issues with it, as I have
read, that should make the "average" Ubuntu user wait for a bit before going
to it.

This is a separate issue; new distributions that appear in the spring
of 2011 have interfaces
that depend on 3D. The graphic drivers, especially for AMD/ATI and
NVidia are in transition,
and the chances to get something wrong when upgrading are bigger.
Therefore, if you are a happy Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 user and have
little time to fiddle with
issues, you can delay your upgrade for a few months. The same goes
with Fedora and OpenSUSE.

It seems that there has been some issues between LO and Ubuntu 11.04
reported already.

You can examine the issues at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice
and list those that are Ubuntu-specific.

Actually Ubuntu seems to want you to run 32-bit even though you have a
64-bit system.  That is what their web pages seem to say.  So since there
has been some issues with it and LO, and now my found issue with monitor
resolution being unsupported by my monitor even though 10.10 did not have it

This part that Ubuntu is advocating to use 32-bit even if you have a
64-bit capable CPU
is just the message found at
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
which says «32-bit (recommended)».
What it means is that if you do not know what CPU you have, you can
just install the 32-bit Ubuntu and be fine.
The phrase that «Ubuntu seems to want you to run 32-bit even though
you have a 64-bit system» is not precise.
How would you explain to the end-user in a simple way which Ubuntu
(32-bit or 64-bit) to use? It's too messy.

I thought to give another case for the LO users to avoid 11.04 64-bit for
awhile.

It's great to use Ubuntu 11.04. If you computer's graphics card is
blessed and you get Unity without issues,
then you will have an excellent desktop environment. And LibreOffice
3.3.2 pre-installed and ready to use.
If your CPU supports 64-bit, then use the 64-bit Ubuntu ISO. If
unsure, use the 32-bit Ubuntu ISO, which works in both cases.

Anyway, we are going again off-topic.
If you want Ubuntu help, visit http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ and we'll
be glad to help.

Let's wear the LibreOffice hat in this list :wink:

Simos

#22

Not a single article I read has stated that "in transition" issue or it depends on 3D.
I wish they would have stated that in the dozen or so articles I have read. All they tell you is that if you do not like Unity, then you can use GNOME "the next time" reboot your system.

  I wonder if 11.04 comes with a Kubuntu version. I will have to see, since I use GNOME with many KDE packages, so both desktops are installed on my system. Right now, my system [typing from it now] is back to 10.04 LTS so I will not be plagued with the "Upgrade Now" message every time I get the daily update-manager message for the newer packages.

I know that LibreOffice is in 11.04 distro, but was told once it was added to the 10.10 and/or 10.04 distros. Just OOo. I will have to remember how to do the "purge" command properly to get rid of OOo from my system. Actually, it seems that LibreOffice wanted to install some objects/packages that use OOo in their title. That came out the last time I got rid of anything OOo titled ones and then installed LibreOffice 3.3.0 [or first DEB package].

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#23

________________________________
From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 4 May, 2011 0:20:59
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Re: do not upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 with
standard resolution widescreen monitor

On 05/03/2011 07:09 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 05/02/2011 06:41 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

I am warning people.

...

Did you have a question regarding LibreOffice?
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
users@libreoffice.org: User support list for LibreOffice users needing
help with a problem.

I think you're looking for:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
Please read this before posting there:
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists

I thought to warn people here, since many have had Ubuntu issues related to
LibreOffice.

I thought someone should let the people know they might want to avoid upgrading
to 11.04 for now. There are enough issues with it, as I have read, that should
make the "average" Ubuntu user wait for a bit before going to it.

It seems that there has been some issues between LO and Ubuntu 11.04 reported
already.

Actually Ubuntu seems to want you to run 32-bit even though you have a 64-bit
system. That is what their web pages seem to say. So since there has been some
issues with it and LO, and now my found issue with monitor resolution being
unsupported by my monitor even though 10.10 did not have it . . . . .

I thought to give another case for the LO users to avoid 11.04 64-bit for
awhile.

Hi :slight_smile:
I get the opposite impression of Ubuntu. It seems 'they' want me to use 64bit
versions when the 32bit has been a lot easier for me. I think the 64bit repos
are a lot better now so the slight performance boost might be worth it. I've
still only got 2Gb ram but that's not an issue any more :slight_smile:

I thought it was kind to alert people that there might be issues for some people
with the 11.04 that are not a problem with earlier releases such as the last
LTS. I have 1 machine that needs either 10.10 or 11.04 in order to run some
stupid new wireless dongle. The old one worked but we upgraded to the new one
because it was new & more expensive and therefore must be better [sighs deeply]
[shakes head]. Anyway, most of the rest of the machines can stay on 10.04. The
11.04 works fine on my virtual machine (in gnome) but i haven't really tried out
much stuff, including LibreOffice, yet.

So, thanks for the warning :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#24

________________________________
From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 3 May, 2011 22:52:34
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] do not upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 with standard
resolution widescreen monitor

On 05/02/2011 02:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :slight_smile:

Cor, are you using the fglrx driver (ati?) or which driver? Which version
number?

I think i cheated when i got my 'new' nVidia card. I just opened my favourite
package manager and typed in "nvidia" and picked one that looked about right
"nvidia-common" or something lol. The one that worries me is trying to get

the

right driver for a Samsung NC10 as i think it's an intel gpu but i have no

idea

which one nor how to find the right driver for it& i need to sort it before i
go off to the boat again.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

I have an internal GeForce 7025 on my motherboard.

I had a nVidia 220 till it failed after 6 months doing GPU crunching for
BOINC.

Hi :slight_smile:
Ouch. I was wondering which driver Cor was using in the hope that it might also
work for the person that was having possible driver problems with their Acer.
Now i find that Acer is a company name like "Dell" or something. Dohh!!
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#25

Hi :slight_smile:
A lot of work has gone into Gnome & Unity recently with new releases already
done or imminent. It's going to take a while for those to settle down again.
Oddly, KDE is completely stable right now so you might be better with a K
desktop environment, if you can bear that Windows look. (Allegedly Win7 copied
a lot of KDE elements, specifically the new "Start" button) . Ubuntu 11.04's
implementation of Gnome DE is very rough compared to Gnome in their previous
releases. So the resolution issue is not a huge surprise. Disappointing but
not a surprise.

Have you heard that Mark Shuttleworth made a very pro-Lubuntu speech possibly
signalling that Lubuntu (with the LXDE) might become an officially supported
branch, like Kubuntu (KDE) and Xubuntu (Xfce). Hmmm, that's a thought. I've
not heard of a new release of Xfce for a while so that must be rock-solid by now
(unless you dislike blue so much that you can't change the colours fast enough).

Obviously this doesn't just affect Ubuntu and does have implications for other
distros such as openSuse, Mageia/Mandriva, Mint, Fedora etc as they use the same
DEs but Ubuntu's officially recognised family is what i am most familiar with at
the moment.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: