do not upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 with standard resolution widescreen monitor

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#1

I am warning people.
Ubuntu 11.04 uses a default monitor resolution that is greater than
the max I have for my LCD wide screen monitor.

It does not remember what you used for 10.4 or 10.10.
So you will get an "Unsupported Input" error on the monitor, if you monitor does have that messaging system like Acer does.

I have moved all my files from my internal to external and using my Vista laptop as a duel boot to Ubuntu 10.10, till I get a change to fix the issue on the desktop. Had to take it apart to get the must up to date stuff off the internal drive.

So untill I figure out how to get the install of 11.04 to not go beyond my max resolution of my widescreen monitor, I will have to keep to 10.10.

#2

Hi :slight_smile:

Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is the recommended release for crucial machines that you don't
want to upgrade too often. The LTSes only need upgrading about every 2-3 years.

The 6monthly releases are fun to try but often have experimental features and
the 11.04 is an extreme example of that. On most systems you might need to
logout or at login click on the user-name and then look at the bottom of the
screen to change "Session type" from "Ubuntu" to "Classic". The "Classic"
session is the familiar Gnome Desktop Environment.

Typcally if the resolution is higher than physical screen size then the keyboard
arrow keys, perhaps with Ctrl or Alt, help you move the area of the screen being
shown.

To be honest it sounds as though you need to install the correct driver for the
graphics card. I'm not sure how to find it but perhaps through booting into
"recovery mode" then choose "fix x-server" you might be able to nudge it into
sorting it all out for you.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#3

Regarding this issue, it's most probably related to the specific
graphics card and/or monitor.
I do not think there are hard-coded values for monitor resolution in
Ubuntu or any other distribution.
Typically the X server (X.Org) reads the available resolutions through
the monitor cable
(see about EDID at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data ).

So, what you should do

1. Install the 'read-edid' package.
2. Run 'sudo get-edid | parse-edid'
3. Put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and
write down the URL.
4. Post the information at UbuntuForums in order to get support.

(sorry for the off-topic)

Simos

#4

LTS versions are released every two years on the 04 release, so you've got 8.04 LTS, 10.04 LTS and the next will be 12.04....

#5

The problem was when the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, it did not get too the "Ubuntu" splash screen before the resolution error happened. I did not have this type of trouble when going from 9.04 to 9.10, 10.04, and 10.10. It must be that with the change to Unity desktop, the changed the defaults. I remember that it use to default at 800x600 till I set the monitor to the actual size. Now it seems it goes much larger than that. I think my Acer is somewhere about 1280 x 738 - or there abouts. 1280 x 800 is 16:10 [laptop], but my Acer widescreen monitor is 16:9.

So, I will be saving my .mozilla and .thunderbird files and when I get the desktop put back together and 10.10 back on it, I will start rebuilding it. Have a lot of stuff to reinstall and setup. At least now I have an USB device to take the SATA drive from the desktop and save all the up-to-date dot folders and data file to my external that did not get on the backups. I have only 60 gig out of 1,000 gig external, and 3 data partitions on the internal that are almost stuffed full. Got to buy a second internal soon.

#6

I cannot even get the splash screen. The monitor works fine with 9.04 thru 10.10.

#7

Hi .. (forgotten your name, sorry),

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote (02-05-11 17:07)

I think my Acer is somewhere about 1280 x 738 - or there abouts. 1280 x
800 is 16:10 [laptop], but my Acer widescreen monitor is 16:9.

My Acer TM has 1366*768 (16:9)
No probs here with Natty Narwhal.

Cor

#8

Hi,

I've upgraded 5 computers so far from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04, all with wide screen monitors, and have not had any issues at all with screen display. Four systems were upgraded using the traditional procedure. One was upgraded using the live CD. I tried doing a second one with the live CD, and I could not get 11.04 to open to run it as a live CD. I usually check to see if there are any issues. It would get to the point where I should have the desktop displaying, but it never displayed. I didn't take time to try to figure out why the screen didn't display. I figured it might have been some issue with the CD itself, but I don't know. So I ran the upgrade the traditional way on that system with no problems at all.

I starting using Ubuntu with 8.10, and have upgraded to each version so far. I upgrade because of the continuous improvements which seem to come, and the improvement in the Linux kernel and drivers with each version. 10.04 was the only one I really had some issues with. So far 11.04 seems to work really well. It will take a little time to get used to Unity. I will like the side bar. I will miss the lack of applets on the top panel, but I see there are some other types which can be installed which I will try as time permits. I do have one issue with Libre Office Base not opening with the icon placed in the side panel. I will send that out as a separate issue.

Don

#9

Hi

Hi .. (forgotten your name, sorry),

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote (02-05-11 17:07)

> I think my Acer is somewhere about 1280 x 738 - or there abouts. 1280 x
> 800 is 16:10 [laptop], but my Acer widescreen monitor is 16:9.

My Acer TM has 1366*768 (16:9)
No probs here with Natty Narwhal.

Cor

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My old Acer laptop defaulted to Gnome instead of Unity when 11.04 was
installed because the video memory was lacking. It is robbed from the
main memory.

#10

Hi :slight_smile:

Cor, are you using the fglrx driver (ati?) or which driver? Which version
number?

I think i cheated when i got my 'new' nVidia card. I just opened my favourite
package manager and typed in "nvidia" and picked one that looked about right
"nvidia-common" or something lol. The one that worries me is trying to get the
right driver for a Samsung NC10 as i think it's an intel gpu but i have no idea
which one nor how to find the right driver for it & i need to sort it before i
go off to the boat again.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#11

Hi :slight_smile:
Yes, i know LTSes are released on a 2-year cycle but you don't have to upgrade
immediately. Support for the desktop LTSes lasts an extra year giving plenty of
time to test out the new one and possibly even reject it in favour of the
6monthlies. A lot of updates usually happen in the first few days of a release
so i tend to try out new releases on a spare partition after trying the LiveCd
rather than committing all 'my' machines.

There are a lot of different possible strategies. For a while i used 6monthlies
and upgraded about annually rather than every single new 6monthly. Now i just
use a mix of strategies but where i have infrequent access i try to stick to the
LTSes and my main machine at home finally settled down at the last LTS so i keep
that on 10.04 too, although i have spare partitions and a Virtual Machine for
occasional "distro hopping".
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#12

Hi :slight_smile:
If you upgrade stops you from using the machine there are some interesting
tricks possibly unique to Ubuntu that allow you to revert to a previous release
without having to re-format and hence help you avoid losing data. I seem to be
the only person in the entire world that knows the trick despite the number of
times i have helped people do this in forums. I don't know why people ignore or
forget the trick, i can't really be the only one right?
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#13

Hi :slight_smile:
Ok, the trick is to use a LiveCd/Usb to install but when youget to the
Partitioning Sectiopn choose the last option at the bottom of the screen to do a
"manual partitioning" sometimes called advanced and now in 11.04 called
"Something else" lol.

It has to re-scan your drives which takes a slightly worrying time. Select all
the same partitions such as / and /home but make sure they are all UNticked in
the "Format?" column to make sure no partition get re-formatted. The swaps will
get reformatted anyway but just make sure your /home or / doesn't get
reformatted.

Once the install has completed look at the hidden folders in your /home/users
folder to check which programs you had installed and re-install any that are
missing.

See, it's quite straight-forwards really so i don't know why people claim to not
know of this trick.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#14

Hey Tom.... I'm so curious about it... LOL

Helmar Fernandes

#15

Well I get Unsupported Input with my Acer 19" monitor for whatever reason.

#16

Hi :slight_smile:

Cor, are you using the fglrx driver (ati?) or which driver? Which version
number?

I think i cheated when i got my 'new' nVidia card. I just opened my favourite
package manager and typed in "nvidia" and picked one that looked about right
"nvidia-common" or something lol. The one that worries me is trying to get the
right driver for a Samsung NC10 as i think it's an intel gpu but i have no idea
which one nor how to find the right driver for it& i need to sort it before i
go off to the boat again.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

I have an internal GeForce 7025 on my motherboard.

I had a nVidia 220 till it failed after 6 months doing GPU crunching for BOINC.

<snip>

Hi

Hi .. (forgotten your name, sorry),

Tim L.
Kracked or Krackedpress will do

#17

Hi :slight_smile:
Ok, the trick is to use a LiveCd/Usb to install but when youget to the
Partitioning Sectiopn choose the last option at the bottom of the screen to do a
"manual partitioning" sometimes called advanced and now in 11.04 called
"Something else" lol.

I use the Live DVD mostly to install it new. The issue I had was during an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04.
I just wish I knew why it did not except the resolution that was being used for 10.10. Even without having the nVidia driver[s] "active", 10.04 LTS defaulted to the 1366 x 768 resolution of the Acer monitor. Why 11.04 did not, I only have to guess.

I also planned on no using Unity as well, since I prefer GNOME over what was written about Unity. I use GNOME as the default with some KDE packages installed as well.

It has to re-scan your drives which takes a slightly worrying time. Select all
the same partitions such as / and /home but make sure they are all UNticked in
the "Format?" column to make sure no partition get re-formatted. The swaps will
get reformatted anyway but just make sure your /home or / doesn't get
reformatted.

Once the install has completed look at the hidden folders in your /home/users
folder to check which programs you had installed and re-install any that are
missing.

See, it's quite straight-forwards really so i don't know why people claim to not
know of this trick.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

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#18

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#19

I thought to warn people here, since many have had Ubuntu issues related to LibreOffice.

I thought someone should let the people know they might want to avoid upgrading to 11.04 for now. There are enough issues with it, as I have read, that should make the "average" Ubuntu user wait for a bit before going to it.

It seems that there has been some issues between LO and Ubuntu 11.04 reported already.

Actually Ubuntu seems to want you to run 32-bit even though you have a 64-bit system. That is what their web pages seem to say. So since there has been some issues with it and LO, and now my found issue with monitor resolution being unsupported by my monitor even though 10.10 did not have it . . . . .

I thought to give another case for the LO users to avoid 11.04 64-bit for awhile.

#20

Nonsense. Your OP, nor the thread that followed had anything to do with LO.