Document formating

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#1

I have a document created in Office 2010 that has all of the formatting preset as it is a lab tech journal for college classes.

When I open it in LibreOffice all of the formatting is messed up and after I add any typing to the document an reopen it in Office2010 it is almost unreadable even when I save the document in .docx format.

Any suggestions as my professor only uses Office2010.

Jacob Tennant

#2

instead of saving in docx,please save in doc format, and check whether the
condition improves or not.
regards,

#3

Hi :slight_smile:
Doc is the older MS format and tends to be better supported on most systems. MS Office 2010 opens it easily. In LibreOffice/OpenOffice try "Save As ... " and choose the format
"Microsoft Word 97/2000/Xp"
Please let us know how it goes with that!
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#4

Will try that tonight when I get home...

Thanks,
Jake

#5

Hi.
Better still is to ask him to give you the document in .doc format. He can easily save it as a .doc from MSO2010.

steve

#6

Hi :slight_smile:
Yes, but people that religiously stick to MS Office and have the most recent upgrade often have troubles doing

File - "Save As ... "

or

Golden Orb - "Save As ... "

It leads to toooo many choices even if they manage to find it. I had to send a screenshot once to help them find their way. Also people often feel you are deliberating being difficult = well worth avoiding if possible.

On the other hand some really like it when people show a bit of initiative and love to see interesting alternative gizmos. LO as a portable app could raise an eyebrow.
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable/

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#7

Um, Tom, are you comparing with the LO Writer Save As ... list?

And Office 2010 has a portable app. You can make one even with the Starter
Edition. It is called Office Click-To-Run 2010. Fits on a Flash Drive.
Takes a while to setup though, and it stays operational as long as the flash
drive is kept in a USB port. Probably not as nifty as Portable LO in terms of
ease of use. It's useful to know about though.

Screen shots are a great idea. Many more are needed for all manner of
scenarios.

- Dennis

PS: The Golden Orb is gone in Office 2010. There is a File menu item/tab.

#8

Hi :slight_smile:
I think you can configure whether you have the orb or without the ribbon at all or a strange inbetween. I haven't really paid to much attention to 2010 tbh. I just found it easier to find things i was looking for and escape back to LO/OOo quickly.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#9

I have Microsoft Office 2010 on a new machine, so no characteristics were
inherited from older versions. I have the Ribbon running, and I don't see the
orb anywhere. I also use Quick Access thingies for what I regularly use and
can never remember where to find.

I can't find anything about the Orb or any way to turn it on. Everything
seems to have a File tab to the far left now. Outlook, Excel, Word,
PowerPoint, even OneNote. I don't know where you ever saw it in 2010. Sorry.

- Dennis

#10

Explain to your professor that you are too poor to afford to use m$
and so you are using LO.

Ask him/her to use LO. At least this demonstrates you have initiative...:slight_smile:
Or to save documents in odt.
Or you get a student edition of m$o.

#11

Hi :slight_smile:
Short(ish) answer.
Using Doc rather than DocX avoids a lot of fighting and awkwardness. Not all because "Save As ... " is too geeky for many MS users and they just can't cope.

Lengthy and tiresome answer ...

The professor probably has no control over what gets installed. That's more likely the job of the IT Department or external 'support'. That's why i suggested LO Portable. It's probably a bit awkward for them but they might like it if it doesn't scare them. He/she might prefer the non-ribbonised menus and the pretty icons.

The IT Departmen probably wont respond or do anything until they have had a load of students and staff pushing for it. So 1 letter is a good start but don't expect swift action.

The Student's Union are probably getting MS Office at drastically reduced rate so they wont understand the financial issue or the technical ones but might be a little sympathetic to the ethical issues. However, they might feel there are more important issues to address such as getting pens and paper cheaper or getting more funding.

IT Students and professors probably just use pirated MS products and/or get drastic reductions. They probably don't understand the ethical or moral issues. It could go either way but unlike many other students to IT people ...
global corporation driven by profits for corporate USA = good thing

For security and other issues IT students and professors probably believe that MS is best since it constantly releases security updates to patch on top of existing code instead of writing code that is secure and robust from the start, at all levels. Being reactive rather than pro-active means people notice results and activity.

People seldom realise the "Freedom of Speech" issue in all this, ie that FoS is only allowed after paying a rich global USA corporation for the privilege.

So, although there are ethical, moral, technical, security, financial and political reasons for preferring LibreOffice (and other OpenSource products) most people will only understand 1 set of those reasons.

So, stick to using the older MS format, Doc rather than DocX as the fastest way of getting the homework done.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: