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Dear Friends,
I am facing a issue in open office migration from microsoft office.
when i am trying to open .docx file it is opening but header &
format disturb means not properly. So please give any solution
for this.
Thanks & regards
Satish
Hi 
You would probably find the same thing happen in other versions of MS Office.
The DocX format keeps changing in each different version of MS Office and possibly on different versions of Windows. So a DocX made with 2007 on Xp might look quite different in MS Office 2010 on Win7.
However if you can correct the error in the document and then save it as a Doc then everyone sees it very much the same regardless of operating system or program used to open the file. Even saving it back as a DocX sometimes works but it's usually best to stick with Doc.
File - "Save As ... " - "MS Word (98, 2000, Xp, 2003)"
something like that.
Similarly if you can get MS Office users to use "Save As" and use the older formats then you will find those documents open better on LibreOffice too. Sadly many MS Office users seem to have no idea how to do something as 'complicated' as that!
Do you happen to know which version of MS Office they are using? If they are using 2007, 2010, 2013 or 365 then they can open documents you send them in Odt format. With 2010 or 2007 they probably can't open Ods files in Excel but 2013 and 365 can.
Regards from
Tom
To restate Tom's info
If you save a .docx file using MSO 2013, it most likely will not read
properly in MSO 2010 or 2007. This will happen more often as the
document becomes more complex.
I always tell my MSO users that if you want to make sure all of the
different versions of MSO can read your documents, you must use the
non-OOXML formats, like .doc.
I never had any trouble with MSO documents that were in the pre-2007
formats. The only thing that the OOXML formats do you the user is to
reduce the size of the documents, in many cases.
AS for getting them to use ODF formats, well, if you get them to use
.doc instead of .odt, then you have won a big battle. LO/Writer, and
the other Open Source office packages out there, can easily use the .doc
formatted documents with very little issues cropping up. I personally
never had a problem with any .doc documents with Writer.
To restate Tom's info
If you save a .docx file using MSO 2013, it most likely will not read
properly in MSO 2010 or 2007. This will happen more often as the
document becomes more complex.I always tell my MSO users that if you want to make sure all of the
different versions of MSO can read your documents, you must use the
non-OOXML formats, like .doc.I never had any trouble with MSO documents that were in the pre-2007
formats. The only thing that the OOXML formats do you the user is to
reduce the size of the documents, in many cases.AS for getting them to use ODF formats, well, if you get them to use
.doc instead of .odt, then you have won a big battle. LO/Writer, and
the other Open Source office packages out there, can easily use the .doc
formatted documents with very little issues cropping up. I personally
never had a problem with any .doc documents with Writer.
But right now i am migrating Microsoft office to open office in my office.
So please give me solution for this because users have multiple fils. they
can not save as all files in .doc formats.
Hi
Backwards incompatibility is not a huge surprise. There is always a chance that some complex thing got inserted even though it probably didn't get used it might still be hidden in the document's coding.
What surprises me is that documents created in an earlier version of MS Office apparently quite often have problems opening in later versions of MS Office. MS has all the specs and knows how it all fit together in 2007 so why wouldn't those documents open properly in 2010 or 2013? MS do have disclaimers and people are quite happy with those problems. If a different program has the same problem they use that as a reason why you shouldn't be using non-MS stuff. There is a certain amount of hypocrisy that goes on without them even being aware of what they are saying.
My boss is a bit anxious about us getting a few versions of MS Office 2013 for just a few machines for training purposes. He wants everyone to use the same version of MS Office as each other precisely to avoid these sorts of problems. So, if we talk about buying 2013 for 1 machine he interprets that as having to buy for all the machines. Otherwise incompatibilities happen.
Regards from
Tom
There are three possible solutions:
- create good bug report (providing example file and image showing how it
should look like) and hope it will get fixed in future version
- hire someone to fix this issue, provide patched binary for you and send code
back to LibreOffice repository (so you will get it automatically on updates)
- if you are using old version (like 3.6 or earlier), try upgrading.
Especially 4.1 promises hundreds of fixes on foreign filetypes import. But I
would not dare to use 4.1 on production environment yet (I would wait until at
least 4.1.4). It is possible that 4.1 fixes your issue, but in exchange for
some minor annoyances here and there.
By the way, each time I read such questions, I wonder what is in mind of
people asking them. That there is some kind of checkbox labeled "make DOCX
files look like shit" somewhere in settings, that is turned ON by default?
Hi
I would definitely prefer that people do ask us so that they can get the truth of it and then maybe test what we say to confirm it.
The other option is to ask MS why and their answer will be that they have to buy their latest version of their MS Office and then put up with people who are "too cheap-skate" to buy the newest one too. The other piece of advice they will give is to never use anything that is non-MS.
That whole attitude is one reason i wanted to get away from the MS world in the first place. They have a vested interest in making people feel guilty for not buying their latest and upgrading everything all the time at considerable expense. If all hardware and software really needs to be upgrade every 3-4 years then how come satellites, marine bouys and other stuff that is tough to reach can keep on working for decades.
One nice thing about LibreOffice is that you can upgrade for free, except the cost of the internet connection. The 4.1.0 is fine on most machines. We haven't had many reports of problems with it really but i would still tend to go with the 4.0.5 because that 3rd digit, the .5, is roughly the equivalent of "Service Pack 5". The 4.1.0 has no service packs. The 4.1.1 has 1. So the 4.0.5 is more stable and less likely to have unpleasant unexpected surprises.
Regards from
Tom
Have everyone buy Microsoft Office 2013.
Seriously. This is the only real 'solution' that you can implement right now.
As has been pointed out, even older versions of Microsoft's own software has trouble with the newer file formats between the different versions...
So please give me solution for this because users have multiple fils. they
can not save as all files in .doc formats.Have everyone buy Microsoft Office 2013.
Seriously. This is the only real 'solution' that you can implement right
now.As has been pointed out, even older versions of Microsoft's own software
has trouble with the newer file formats between the different versions...
No dear we never go with microsoft. I got a beautiful open source tool
when you install this tool in your system it automatically detect our
target file(docx) & when you open this it convert open office format(odt).
The tool name is odf-converter-integrater.
open source have biggest power just trust them.
So what is 4.1.05 - which is what I have...
Sorry, ignore!
Please learn how to quote/reply...
Your reply was indistinguishable from the quoted text (of mine)...
So please give me solution for this because users have multiple fils. they
can not save as all files in .doc formats.
Have everyone buy Microsoft Office 2013.
Seriously. This is the only real 'solution' that you can implement right
now.As has been pointed out, even older versions of Microsoft's own software
has trouble with the newer file formats between the different versions...
No dear we never go with microsoft. I got a beautiful open source tool
when you install this tool in your system it automatically detect our
target file(docx) & when you open this it convert open office format(odt).
The tool name is odf-converter-integrater.open source have biggest power just trust them.
Yeah, right...
You were asking for a *solution* for *badly translated* documents.
odf-converter-integrator will absolutely produce *badly translated/converted documents*.
Again... the *only* way to guarantee that documents open and look the same is if everyone in the loop is one the exact same version of the exact same software.
Gordon,
Ignoring. But you might like to bookmark this handy link:
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/
When the development RC2 version is processed, it becomes to "release" notation.
So folks using 4.0.5 release are using the same code base as 4.0.5.2, or 4.1.0 is using the code base of 4.1.0.4--the extra RC builds were needed at 4.1.0
Stuart
Thanks for the info, even if you did ignore it!
Or refuse to buy or use any version of MSO until MS correctly uses odf formats as default formats.
Or refuse to buy or use any version of MSO until MS correctly uses odf
formats as default formats.
Certainly in Office 2010 you have the option to set ODF as the default
document type, and I believe that in Office 2013/365 they've fixed the
Hi
MS Office 2010 and earlier used a bad implementation of an old version of the ODF formats which meant that Word/Writer was fine but Calc/Excel lost all the formulas and just gave fixed values instead. They were able to give a reasonable excuse for shunning the ODF 1.2 that everyone else was using quite happily at the time.
MSO 2013 and 365 now uses the same ODF as everyone else since ODF 1.2 finally got officially released a couple of years previous to that. Plus they fixed their implementation so it now allows formulas in spreadsheets.
Regards from
Tom
Hi
Accidents happen. I thought it was fairly easy to tell who said what just by the different word-usage and sentence structure. So, no need to fret.
The
odf-converter-integrator
sounds like a good idea but with a 3rd party tool you have got to wonder who makes it and what their 'hidden' objective might be. Mention of Novell makes me wonder if MS are behind it. MS are not hugely in favour of LibreOffice. Back when i actually believed in MS i would have tried it too but they let me down too many times and i began to find a pattern in that. Turns out they are primarily a profit-making organisation rather than really being philanthropic!
Any chance of trying the original DocX and just open that in LibreOffice without trying to convert it or do anything else to it?
Regards from
Tom