Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

users
#1

The following article's title got me thinking. Does LibreOffice work on Google's Linux OS? It is starting to be installed in some computers at the vendor, so it may come up. It would be nice to be able to tell people, in the near future, that it works on that OS as well.

http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5
Five Reasons why Google's Linux Chromebook is a Windows killer

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: After years, decades, of talking about Linux taking on Windows on the desktop, we finally have a serious contender with a serious backer, Google, behind it. Can it do in Windows on the business desktop?

#2

As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no installable
programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need a
browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs does
save to Open Document Formats by default.

*John Shabanowitz
http://libodocs.wordpress.com
We're recruiting, come join us.*

#3

Hi :slight_smile:

Google's Chrome OS is just another Linux distro that just tries to avoid having
any apps installed so that you do everything from inside a web-browser. It is
not a new concept but does have much better marketing and a larger company
backing it but there are other distros that have tried this Cloud computing
stuff way before the name "Cloud" became fashionable.

Since LibreOffice works well in Linux it should work well in Chrome assuming you
have enough hard-drive space. Chrome tends to minimise the need for hard-drives
so some of the machines it is pre-installed on tend to have tiny drives.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#4

As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no installable
programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need a
browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs does
save to Open Document Formats by default.

Since they call it "Linux", I assume you would be able to install your own applications and packages on that laptop or desktop.

There seems to be a movement to make Google's Linux Chromebook a type of OS that can be used instead of Windows or "normal" Linux distros, or at least that is what I think they are planning.

So if Google is planning to have a "Windows Killer" OS in a desktop or laptop computer, you must be able to add your own package for things that Google has not bought yet: GIMP, Firefox, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Inkscape, K3b, VLC, Jablum, Filezilla, XSane, DeVeDe, printers, plus all the other packages and devices I use almost daily.

Google must be able to have you install these types of packages and devices, or it will not be able to function as a complete laptop or desktop computer.

#5

Hi :slight_smile:

I am fairly certain that apps can be installed outside of the web-browser. I
think the standard install of Chrome even includes some standard apps this way
(shhh :wink: ). I'm not sure what they use as a package manager tho. Perhaps it
might be worth asking at DistroWatch (in their reader's weekly thread)?
http://distrowatch.com

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#6

As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no installable
programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need a
browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs does
save to Open Document Formats by default.

Since they call it "Linux", I assume you would be able to install your own applications and packages on that laptop or desktop.

There seems to be a movement to make Google's Linux Chromebook a type of OS that can be used instead of Windows or "normal" Linux distros, or at least that is what I think they are planning.

So if Google is planning to have a "Windows Killer" OS in a desktop or laptop computer, you must be able to add your own package for things that Google has not bought yet: GIMP, Firefox, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Inkscape, K3b, VLC, Jablum, Filezilla, XSane, DeVeDe, printers, plus all the other packages and devices I use almost daily.

Google must be able to have you install these types of packages and devices, or it will not be able to function as a complete laptop or desktop computer.

As I understand it this is the enterprise version. I believe it can't print to a wired printer but has some very useful enterprise management tools for the administrators. I also read it has no spinning drive (just some SSD) good battery and fast boot. The desktop is the browser and apps run in a tab (each tab has its own session). Last I read there was uncertainty as to how offline support for google docs would be achieved.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/acer-and-samsung-make-first-google-chromebooks/story-e6frfro0-1226054518158
We will have to wait and see if there is an opening for LO.
steve

#7

John, Tom

> As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no installable
> programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need a
> browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs does
> save to Open Document Formats by default.
>
Since they call it "Linux", I assume you would be able to install your
own applications and packages on that laptop or desktop.

There seems to be a movement to make Google's Linux Chromebook a type of
OS that can be used instead of Windows or "normal" Linux distros, or at
least that is what I think they are planning.

So if Google is planning to have a "Windows Killer" OS in a desktop or
laptop computer, you must be able to add your own package for things
that Google has not bought yet: GIMP, Firefox, Thunderbird,
LibreOffice, Inkscape, K3b, VLC, Jablum, Filezilla, XSane, DeVeDe,
printers, plus all the other packages and devices I use almost daily.

Google must be able to have you install these types of packages and
devices, or it will not be able to function as a complete laptop or
desktop computer.

> *John Shabanowitz
> http://libodocs.wordpress.com
> We're recruiting, come join us.*
>
>> The following article's title got me thinking. Does LibreOffice work on
>> Google's Linux OS? It is starting to be installed in some computers at the
>> vendor, so it may come up. It would be nice to be able to tell people, in
>> the near future, that it works on that OS as well.
>>
>>
>> http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5<
>> http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5
>> Five Reasons why Google's Linux Chromebook is a Windows killer
>>
>> Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: After years, decades, of talking about Linux
>> taking on Windows on the desktop, we finally have a serious contender with a
>> serious backer, Google, behind it. Can it do in Windows on the business
>> desktop?
>>
>> --
>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/
>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
>> deleted
>>
>>

The problem the Google stupidity is they are charging you $28/mon over 3
years for a netbook that you can get for may be $250. They are playing
on the ignorance of most non Linux users. They mostly are unaware of
open source software or free(dom) software and their communities. So
they do not know, initially, that Google is basically taking money they
from them for something that is available at no charge.

There are no cost Linux netbook OS's available that are fully supported
by the developer. Ubuntu has an official netbook version that has LO
installed and presumably if you wanted to use Google Apps/Docs you
could. Ubuntu netbook is available and maintained for no charge to the
users, like most Linux distro's. I only mention Ubuntu because I am
aware of it, Distrowatch.com probably lists several others. The only
cost is time for downloading (in the background), burning the ISO on
disk, and install time. The last two are may be 1 hour total plus disk.

#8

________________________________
From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 19:41:48
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

John, Tom

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 10:23 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 05/12/2011 08:55 AM, John Shabanowitz wrote:
> As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no installable
> programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need a
> browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs does
> save to Open Document Formats by default.
>
Since they call it "Linux", I assume you would be able to install your
own applications and packages on that laptop or desktop.

There seems to be a movement to make Google's Linux Chromebook a type of
OS that can be used instead of Windows or "normal" Linux distros, or at
least that is what I think they are planning.

So if Google is planning to have a "Windows Killer" OS in a desktop or
laptop computer, you must be able to add your own package for things
that Google has not bought yet: GIMP, Firefox, Thunderbird,
LibreOffice, Inkscape, K3b, VLC, Jablum, Filezilla, XSane, DeVeDe,
printers, plus all the other packages and devices I use almost daily.

Google must be able to have you install these types of packages and
devices, or it will not be able to function as a complete laptop or
desktop computer.

> *John Shabanowitz
> http://libodocs.wordpress.com
> We're recruiting, come join us.*
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:39 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions< > > webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
>
>> The following article's title got me thinking. Does LibreOffice work on
>> Google's Linux OS? It is starting to be installed in some computers at the
>> vendor, so it may come up. It would be nice to be able to tell people, in
>> the near future, that it works on that OS as well.
>>
>>
>>
http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5<

>>
http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5

>> Five Reasons why Google's Linux Chromebook is a Windows killer
>>
>> Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: After years, decades, of talking about Linux
>> taking on Windows on the desktop, we finally have a serious contender with

a

>> serious backer, Google, behind it. Can it do in Windows on the business
>> desktop?
>>
>> --
>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/
>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
>> deleted
>>
>>

The problem the Google stupidity is they are charging you $28/mon over 3
years for a netbook that you can get for may be $250. They are playing
on the ignorance of most non Linux users. They mostly are unaware of
open source software or free(dom) software and their communities. So
they do not know, initially, that Google is basically taking money they
from them for something that is available at no charge.

There are no cost Linux netbook OS's available that are fully supported
by the developer. Ubuntu has an official netbook version that has LO
installed and presumably if you wanted to use Google Apps/Docs you
could. Ubuntu netbook is available and maintained for no charge to the
users, like most Linux distro's. I only mention Ubuntu because I am
aware of it, Distrowatch.com probably lists several others. The only
cost is time for downloading (in the background), burning the ISO on
disk, and install time. The last two are may be 1 hour total plus disk.

Hi :slight_smile:
It is allowed under the GPL and similar licences. People often feel more
comfortable paying for something and can be very uncomfortable about getting it
for free. Even downloading something can be a bit too technical for some
average Windows users, the rest would be impossible for the vast majority. What
they are paying for is brand-name, support, insurance against breakages and
stupidity. For many people no cost would be high enough to cover against those
things.

According to Wikipedia there is a muti-media player installed on the hardware
(rather than through the Cloud) and the package manager is the same as Gentoo's
Portage. I have a feeling that Portage is quite tricky (?) lol.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#9

Hi

________________________________
From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 19:41:48
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

John, Tom

> > As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no installable
> > programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need a
> > browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs does
> > save to Open Document Formats by default.
> >
> Since they call it "Linux", I assume you would be able to install your
> own applications and packages on that laptop or desktop.
>
> There seems to be a movement to make Google's Linux Chromebook a type of
> OS that can be used instead of Windows or "normal" Linux distros, or at
> least that is what I think they are planning.
>
> So if Google is planning to have a "Windows Killer" OS in a desktop or
> laptop computer, you must be able to add your own package for things
> that Google has not bought yet: GIMP, Firefox, Thunderbird,
> LibreOffice, Inkscape, K3b, VLC, Jablum, Filezilla, XSane, DeVeDe,
> printers, plus all the other packages and devices I use almost daily.
>
> Google must be able to have you install these types of packages and
> devices, or it will not be able to function as a complete laptop or
> desktop computer.
>
> > *John Shabanowitz
> > http://libodocs.wordpress.com
> > We're recruiting, come join us.*
> >
> >> The following article's title got me thinking. Does LibreOffice work on
> >> Google's Linux OS? It is starting to be installed in some computers at the
> >> vendor, so it may come up. It would be nice to be able to tell people, in
> >> the near future, that it works on that OS as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5<
>
> >>
>http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5
>
> >> Five Reasons why Google's Linux Chromebook is a Windows killer
> >>
> >> Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: After years, decades, of talking about Linux
> >> taking on Windows on the desktop, we finally have a serious contender with
a
> >> serious backer, Google, behind it. Can it do in Windows on the business
> >> desktop?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
> >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
> >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/
> >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
> >> deleted
> >>
> >>
>
>

The problem the Google stupidity is they are charging you $28/mon over 3
years for a netbook that you can get for may be $250. They are playing
on the ignorance of most non Linux users. They mostly are unaware of
open source software or free(dom) software and their communities. So
they do not know, initially, that Google is basically taking money they
from them for something that is available at no charge.

There are no cost Linux netbook OS's available that are fully supported
by the developer. Ubuntu has an official netbook version that has LO
installed and presumably if you wanted to use Google Apps/Docs you
could. Ubuntu netbook is available and maintained for no charge to the
users, like most Linux distro's. I only mention Ubuntu because I am
aware of it, Distrowatch.com probably lists several others. The only
cost is time for downloading (in the background), burning the ISO on
disk, and install time. The last two are may be 1 hour total plus disk.

Hi :slight_smile:
It is allowed under the GPL and similar licences. People often feel more
comfortable paying for something and can be very uncomfortable about getting it
for free. Even downloading something can be a bit too technical for some
average Windows users, the rest would be impossible for the vast majority. What
they are paying for is brand-name, support, insurance against breakages and
stupidity. For many people no cost would be high enough to cover against those
things.

According to Wikipedia there is a muti-media player installed on the hardware
(rather than through the Cloud) and the package manager is the same as Gentoo's
Portage. I have a feeling that Portage is quite tricky (?) lol.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Is Google OS a derivative of Gentoo? I would used Debian/Ubuntu or Red
Hat/Fedora and possibly Mandriva/Mageia for the base. They all have
straightforward package management. Also, most Windows users are not
used to the Linux repository system with vetted software for your OS.

#10

________________________________
From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 20:40:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

Hi

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:21 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:

________________________________
From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 19:41:48
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

John, Tom

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 10:23 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press > Productions wrote:

> On 05/12/2011 08:55 AM, John Shabanowitz wrote:
> > As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no
installable
> > programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need

a

> > browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs

does

> > save to Open Document Formats by default.
> >
> Since they call it "Linux", I assume you would be able to install your
> own applications and packages on that laptop or desktop.
>
> There seems to be a movement to make Google's Linux Chromebook a type of
> OS that can be used instead of Windows or "normal" Linux distros, or at
> least that is what I think they are planning.
>
> So if Google is planning to have a "Windows Killer" OS in a desktop or
> laptop computer, you must be able to add your own package for things
> that Google has not bought yet: GIMP, Firefox, Thunderbird,
> LibreOffice, Inkscape, K3b, VLC, Jablum, Filezilla, XSane, DeVeDe,
> printers, plus all the other packages and devices I use almost daily.
>
> Google must be able to have you install these types of packages and
> devices, or it will not be able to function as a complete laptop or
> desktop computer.
>
> > *John Shabanowitz
> > http://libodocs.wordpress.com
> > We're recruiting, come join us.*
> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:39 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions< > > > webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The following article's title got me thinking. Does LibreOffice work on
> >> Google's Linux OS? It is starting to be installed in some computers at
the
> >> vendor, so it may come up. It would be nice to be able to tell people,

in

> >> the near future, that it works on that OS as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>

http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5<

<
>
> >>

http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5

5
>
> >> Five Reasons why Google's Linux Chromebook is a Windows killer
> >>
> >> Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: After years, decades, of talking about Linux
> >> taking on Windows on the desktop, we finally have a serious contender with

a
> >> serious backer, Google, behind it. Can it do in Windows on the business
> >> desktop?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
> >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
> >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/
> >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
> >> deleted
> >>
> >>
>
>

The problem the Google stupidity is they are charging you $28/mon over 3
years for a netbook that you can get for may be $250. They are playing
on the ignorance of most non Linux users. They mostly are unaware of
open source software or free(dom) software and their communities. So
they do not know, initially, that Google is basically taking money they
from them for something that is available at no charge.

There are no cost Linux netbook OS's available that are fully supported
by the developer. Ubuntu has an official netbook version that has LO
installed and presumably if you wanted to use Google Apps/Docs you
could. Ubuntu netbook is available and maintained for no charge to the
users, like most Linux distro's. I only mention Ubuntu because I am
aware of it, Distrowatch.com probably lists several others. The only
cost is time for downloading (in the background), burning the ISO on
disk, and install time. The last two are may be 1 hour total plus disk.

Hi :slight_smile:
It is allowed under the GPL and similar licences. People often feel more
comfortable paying for something and can be very uncomfortable about getting it

for free. Even downloading something can be a bit too technical for some
average Windows users, the rest would be impossible for the vast majority.
What

they are paying for is brand-name, support, insurance against breakages and
stupidity. For many people no cost would be high enough to cover against those

things.

According to Wikipedia there is a muti-media player installed on the hardware
(rather than through the Cloud) and the package manager is the same as Gentoo's

Portage. I have a feeling that Portage is quite tricky (?) lol.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Is Google OS a derivative of Gentoo? I would used Debian/Ubuntu or Red
Hat/Fedora and possibly Mandriva/Mageia for the base. They all have
straightforward package management. Also, most Windows users are not
used to the Linux repository system with vetted software for your OS.

Hi :slight_smile:
Yes, it's a Gentoo derivative. Like Slackware, Arch and newer ones like
TInyCore it is quite 'easy' to build a very minimalist distro from Gentoo.
Ubuntu, Mageia/Mandriva and probably anything else that is immediately useful to
most users is quite "bloated" with useful apps and things. Exactly what Chrome
was avoiding :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#11

Tom,

________________________________
From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 20:40:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

Hi

>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
> To: users@libreoffice.org
> Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 19:41:48
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?
>
> John, Tom
>
>
> > > As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no
>installable
> > > programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need
a
> > > browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs
does
> > > save to Open Document Formats by default.
> > >
> > Since they call it "Linux", I assume you would be able to install your
> > own applications and packages on that laptop or desktop.
> >
> > There seems to be a movement to make Google's Linux Chromebook a type of
> > OS that can be used instead of Windows or "normal" Linux distros, or at
> > least that is what I think they are planning.
> >
> > So if Google is planning to have a "Windows Killer" OS in a desktop or
> > laptop computer, you must be able to add your own package for things
> > that Google has not bought yet: GIMP, Firefox, Thunderbird,
> > LibreOffice, Inkscape, K3b, VLC, Jablum, Filezilla, XSane, DeVeDe,
> > printers, plus all the other packages and devices I use almost daily.
> >
> > Google must be able to have you install these types of packages and
> > devices, or it will not be able to function as a complete laptop or
> > desktop computer.
> >
> > > *John Shabanowitz
> > > http://libodocs.wordpress.com
> > > We're recruiting, come join us.*
> > >
> > >> The following article's title got me thinking. Does LibreOffice work on
> > >> Google's Linux OS? It is starting to be installed in some computers at
>the
> > >> vendor, so it may come up. It would be nice to be able to tell people,
in
> > >> the near future, that it works on that OS as well.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
>>http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5<
><
> >
> > >>
>>http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5
>5
> >
> > >> Five Reasons why Google's Linux Chromebook is a Windows killer
> > >>
> > >> Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: After years, decades, of talking about Linux
> > >> taking on Windows on the desktop, we finally have a serious contender with
>
> a
> > >> serious backer, Google, behind it. Can it do in Windows on the business
> > >> desktop?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
> > >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
> > >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/
> > >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
> > >> deleted
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>
> The problem the Google stupidity is they are charging you $28/mon over 3
> years for a netbook that you can get for may be $250. They are playing
> on the ignorance of most non Linux users. They mostly are unaware of
> open source software or free(dom) software and their communities. So
> they do not know, initially, that Google is basically taking money they
> from them for something that is available at no charge.
>
> There are no cost Linux netbook OS's available that are fully supported
> by the developer. Ubuntu has an official netbook version that has LO
> installed and presumably if you wanted to use Google Apps/Docs you
> could. Ubuntu netbook is available and maintained for no charge to the
> users, like most Linux distro's. I only mention Ubuntu because I am
> aware of it, Distrowatch.com probably lists several others. The only
> cost is time for downloading (in the background), burning the ISO on
> disk, and install time. The last two are may be 1 hour total plus disk.
>
>
> Hi :slight_smile:
> It is allowed under the GPL and similar licences. People often feel more
> comfortable paying for something and can be very uncomfortable about getting it
>
> for free. Even downloading something can be a bit too technical for some
> average Windows users, the rest would be impossible for the vast majority.
>What
>
> they are paying for is brand-name, support, insurance against breakages and
> stupidity. For many people no cost would be high enough to cover against those
>
> things.
>
>
> According to Wikipedia there is a muti-media player installed on the hardware
> (rather than through the Cloud) and the package manager is the same as Gentoo's
>
> Portage. I have a feeling that Portage is quite tricky (?) lol.
> Regards from
> Tom :slight_smile:
>

Is Google OS a derivative of Gentoo? I would used Debian/Ubuntu or Red
Hat/Fedora and possibly Mandriva/Mageia for the base. They all have
straightforward package management. Also, most Windows users are not
used to the Linux repository system with vetted software for your OS.

Hi :slight_smile:
Yes, it's a Gentoo derivative. Like Slackware, Arch and newer ones like
TInyCore it is quite 'easy' to build a very minimalist distro from Gentoo.
Ubuntu, Mageia/Mandriva and probably anything else that is immediately useful to
most users is quite "bloated" with useful apps and things. Exactly what Chrome
was avoiding :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

There are several distos derived from a minimalist Ubuntu/Debian core
available, some a intended for netbooks. other older desktops, and
others for desktops. I guess Google is not as capable as someone at home
in their pajamas. In fact Ubuntu has an official version for netbooks
available now. My impression is Google is sinking to a low that MS does
not even sink to. Windows and MS Office are pricey but you do get free
updates, patches, etc. for the life of the product from Microsoft.
Google is charging $28/mon for 3 years, max of $1008.

Depending on the carrier in the US you might get a netbook for a steep
discount if you sign a 1 or 2 year contract. I think retail for a
netbook is about $250 - $300.

I

#12

I think this release is targeted at enterprises. They may be happy to pay a lease for hardware and software that updates and even repairs/reinstalls itself when a fault occurs. The enterprise management tools that come with Chrome Enterprise may easily offset the cost.
steve

#13

________________________________
From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 21:57:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

Tom,

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:49 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:

________________________________
From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 20:40:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

Hi

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:21 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:

>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
> To: users@libreoffice.org
> Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 19:41:48
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?
>
> John, Tom
>
> On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 10:23 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press > > Productions wrote:
>
> > On 05/12/2011 08:55 AM, John Shabanowitz wrote:
> > > As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no
>installable
> > > programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need

a
> > > browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs
does
> > > save to Open Document Formats by default.
> > >
> > Since they call it "Linux", I assume you would be able to install your
> > own applications and packages on that laptop or desktop.
> >
> > There seems to be a movement to make Google's Linux Chromebook a type of
> > OS that can be used instead of Windows or "normal" Linux distros, or at
> > least that is what I think they are planning.
> >
> > So if Google is planning to have a "Windows Killer" OS in a desktop or
> > laptop computer, you must be able to add your own package for things
> > that Google has not bought yet: GIMP, Firefox, Thunderbird,
> > LibreOffice, Inkscape, K3b, VLC, Jablum, Filezilla, XSane, DeVeDe,
> > printers, plus all the other packages and devices I use almost daily.
> >
> > Google must be able to have you install these types of packages and
> > devices, or it will not be able to function as a complete laptop or
> > desktop computer.
> >
> > > *John Shabanowitz
> > > http://libodocs.wordpress.com
> > > We're recruiting, come join us.*
> > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:39 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions< > > > > webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The following article's title got me thinking. Does LibreOffice work

on

> > >> Google's Linux OS? It is starting to be installed in some computers at

>the
> > >> vendor, so it may come up. It would be nice to be able to tell people,

in
> > >> the near future, that it works on that OS as well.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>

http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5<

<
><
> >
> > >>

http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=820871699-2633d7c77d14cff811233e01103381d9-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5

5
>5
> >
> > >> Five Reasons why Google's Linux Chromebook is a Windows killer
> > >>
> > >> Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: After years, decades, of talking about Linux
> > >> taking on Windows on the desktop, we finally have a serious contender
with

>
> a
> > >> serious backer, Google, behind it. Can it do in Windows on the business
> > >> desktop?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
> > >> Posting guidelines + more:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette

> > >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/
> > >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be
> > >> deleted
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>
> The problem the Google stupidity is they are charging you $28/mon over 3
> years for a netbook that you can get for may be $250. They are playing
> on the ignorance of most non Linux users. They mostly are unaware of
> open source software or free(dom) software and their communities. So
> they do not know, initially, that Google is basically taking money they
> from them for something that is available at no charge.
>
> There are no cost Linux netbook OS's available that are fully supported
> by the developer. Ubuntu has an official netbook version that has LO
> installed and presumably if you wanted to use Google Apps/Docs you
> could. Ubuntu netbook is available and maintained for no charge to the
> users, like most Linux distro's. I only mention Ubuntu because I am
> aware of it, Distrowatch.com probably lists several others. The only
> cost is time for downloading (in the background), burning the ISO on
> disk, and install time. The last two are may be 1 hour total plus disk.
>
>
> Hi :slight_smile:
> It is allowed under the GPL and similar licences. People often feel more
> comfortable paying for something and can be very uncomfortable about getting
it

>
> for free. Even downloading something can be a bit too technical for some
> average Windows users, the rest would be impossible for the vast majority.
>What
>
> they are paying for is brand-name, support, insurance against breakages and
> stupidity. For many people no cost would be high enough to cover against
those

>
> things.
>
>
> According to Wikipedia there is a muti-media player installed on the hardware

> (rather than through the Cloud) and the package manager is the same as
Gentoo's

>
> Portage. I have a feeling that Portage is quite tricky (?) lol.
> Regards from
> Tom :slight_smile:
>

Is Google OS a derivative of Gentoo? I would used Debian/Ubuntu or Red
Hat/Fedora and possibly Mandriva/Mageia for the base. They all have
straightforward package management. Also, most Windows users are not
used to the Linux repository system with vetted software for your OS.

Hi :slight_smile:
Yes, it's a Gentoo derivative. Like Slackware, Arch and newer ones like
TInyCore it is quite 'easy' to build a very minimalist distro from Gentoo.
Ubuntu, Mageia/Mandriva and probably anything else that is immediately useful
to

most users is quite "bloated" with useful apps and things. Exactly what Chrome

was avoiding :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

There are several distos derived from a minimalist Ubuntu/Debian core
available, some a intended for netbooks. other older desktops, and
others for desktops. I guess Google is not as capable as someone at home
in their pajamas. In fact Ubuntu has an official version for netbooks
available now. My impression is Google is sinking to a low that MS does
not even sink to. Windows and MS Office are pricey but you do get free
updates, patches, etc. for the life of the product from Microsoft.
Google is charging $28/mon for 3 years, max of $1008.

Depending on the carrier in the US you might get a netbook for a steep
discount if you sign a 1 or 2 year contract. I think retail for a
netbook is about $250 - $300.

I

Hi :slight_smile:
Yes, all true. Until people "do the Math"(s) they probably think it sounds like
they are getting a laptop for $28 with a replacement free if anything goes
slightly wrong with it. As you point out the deal surely must include wireless
broadband. One would hope the connection is very fast and rock solid.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#14

Tom,

________________________________
From: jslozier<jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 20:40:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

Hi

________________________________
From: jslozier<jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 19:41:48
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

John, Tom

<snip>

The problem the Google stupidity is they are charging you $28/mon over 3
years for a netbook that you can get for may be $250. They are playing
on the ignorance of most non Linux users. They mostly are unaware of
open source software or free(dom) software and their communities. So
they do not know, initially, that Google is basically taking money they
from them for something that is available at no charge.

There are no cost Linux netbook OS's available that are fully supported
by the developer. Ubuntu has an official netbook version that has LO
installed and presumably if you wanted to use Google Apps/Docs you
could. Ubuntu netbook is available and maintained for no charge to the
users, like most Linux distro's. I only mention Ubuntu because I am
aware of it, Distrowatch.com probably lists several others. The only
cost is time for downloading (in the background), burning the ISO on
disk, and install time. The last two are may be 1 hour total plus disk.

Hi :slight_smile:
It is allowed under the GPL and similar licences. People often feel more
comfortable paying for something and can be very uncomfortable about getting it

for free. Even downloading something can be a bit too technical for some
average Windows users, the rest would be impossible for the vast majority.
What

they are paying for is brand-name, support, insurance against breakages and
stupidity. For many people no cost would be high enough to cover against those

things.

According to Wikipedia there is a muti-media player installed on the hardware
(rather than through the Cloud) and the package manager is the same as Gentoo's

Portage. I have a feeling that Portage is quite tricky (?) lol.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Is Google OS a derivative of Gentoo? I would used Debian/Ubuntu or Red
Hat/Fedora and possibly Mandriva/Mageia for the base. They all have
straightforward package management. Also, most Windows users are not
used to the Linux repository system with vetted software for your OS.

Hi :slight_smile:
Yes, it's a Gentoo derivative. Like Slackware, Arch and newer ones like
TInyCore it is quite 'easy' to build a very minimalist distro from Gentoo.
Ubuntu, Mageia/Mandriva and probably anything else that is immediately useful to
most users is quite "bloated" with useful apps and things. Exactly what Chrome
was avoiding :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

There are several distos derived from a minimalist Ubuntu/Debian core
available, some a intended for netbooks. other older desktops, and
others for desktops. I guess Google is not as capable as someone at home
in their pajamas. In fact Ubuntu has an official version for netbooks
available now. My impression is Google is sinking to a low that MS does
not even sink to. Windows and MS Office are pricey but you do get free
updates, patches, etc. for the life of the product from Microsoft.
Google is charging $28/mon for 3 years, max of $1008.

Depending on the carrier in the US you might get a netbook for a steep
discount if you sign a 1 or 2 year contract. I think retail for a
netbook is about $250 - $300.

I

I think this release is targeted at enterprises. They may be happy to pay a lease for hardware and software that updates and even repairs/reinstalls itself when a fault occurs. The enterprise management tools that come with Chrome Enterprise may easily offset the cost.
steve

Looks like I started a hot topic here.....

I would not mind to have a netbook, except it is too small of a display size for my aging eyes, and its default installed RAM seems to never be enough for my needs. I have seen some of the tablet systems advertise with 256 MB for installed ram. 50% of all my software types would slow down to snail's pace with less than 512 to 1,000 MB of ram. My old laptop with 1.256 GB of ram is very slow for much of the intensive CPU work I tend to do that is not use an office suite to do.

Yes Ubuntu had a great version for a Netbook OS, but they decided that their full package should work the same way, so Unity was chosen over GNOME as the default desktop manager or it is a desktop shell?

As for the $28 per month for 3 years. . . .
Well take the $250 netbook, add some extras, and so on, you might get a good setup for less than $400 all total. Now if you do not have the money up front, or you want some service contract, then maybe - stretching it here - you would be better off with Google's offering. Just like the people who offer you a full computer system for $40 a week and charge you $3500 in the end for something that costs under $800 to buy yourself. If you do not have the up-front money, you may not have much of an option otherwise. One of my neighbors is using a local rent-to-own service to get himself a computer he otherwise cannot afford. Now he complains that it is a few years old and wants to rent-to-own a newer one. Oh well, I would love to have his older one since only one of my machines is faster that that one. I could use another fast one, but do not have $40 a week to pay for one right now.