Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

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#21

Hi :slight_smile:
I think Win7 and Xp are so different from each other that each would qualify as a separate distro.  They are a bit like 2 distros from different families.  It's not even as close as Mint or Ubuntu to Debian.

Errr, the answer was Win7 but i think that was given later in this thread. 
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#22

I think part of the problem is that LO does place fonts in a folder that is not the system's font folder. So if the user has some DejaVu fonts already installed, LO may use its version of fonts over the ones the user installed. Also there would be some fonts in the LO list that are not in the font list for any other package.

One problem may be that LO cannot install the fonts in the different distro's font folders. Windows-based, DEB-based, RPM-based, Mac-based, systems all have different ways of installing fonts. So it may be hard to get the font installation for each OS or distro of Linux to work properly.

Still, there are issues with package loading up a Windows systems with all the different fonts that "they" want and not the user choice of fonts. Some packages require a specific font for their operation, and do not use the "default" system fonts. That can be a problem for users to reduce the number of fonts in their font folder[s]. Ubuntu hides many fonts in their /usr/share/fonts/ folder system. I see Type 1 fonts listed and I do not know why Ubuntu would need Type 1 fonts now that TTF and OTF fonts are the "standard" font format. But, I will not remove them since they were installed for a reason. The only installed fonts the system installed are the ones that were designed for Asian, India, and Arabic type of language fonts.

As for the "closeness" between versions of Windows, or Linux, it all depends on the desktop environment and where/how they store the system "values". Windows tends to change the placement of program and user data with every new version. The only thing that seems to change between a Ubuntu or Debian based distro is the desktop environment. For our windows users, that is the way the display show all of the needed items to do the work. Think the visual differences between XP, Vista, Win7, and the pain of Win8. Think of how you use the "Start Button" or task bar items. Linux has many different "display" types. Ubuntu can have its display look many different ways. My Ubuntu 12.04 can use the "tile based" Unity, or other desktop environments like KDE, MATE, Cinnamon, or a variety of others to change the look and feel of the desktop, making it look like different OSs, even though it is the same OS but different ways of seeing and using things. I personally have Unity, KDE and MATE installed for my Ubuntu 12.04 system.

#23

yikes ;-(
           and the proper way for WIN7 would be ??? :wink:
       I was just about to check into finding more then plopping them in;
now I'll wait for further instructions.

       yep ... I think this 'glorified typewriter' is making me 'feel
stupider & stupider' ...

#24

For Win7 systems - you can see them through Control Panel > All Control Panel Items > Fonts
which was on the left hand side of the window.

Now you can delete the fonts by right clicking on it and using the delete option[s].
To install fonts, you must have the font setting to NOT make a "link" to the font. That is always trouble.
So from there, you just have a list of fonts in a "working folder" and right click on the font[s] you want to install and use the "install" option.

That is how I do this.

The only issue is you will need to know what fonts all of you packages use so you do not delete any needed ones. For myself, I have over 200 "items" listed on my Win7 laptop and over 500 font files in my .fonts folder on my Ubuntu desktop.

#25

When I install fonts to my Win7 computer, I just copy the font files to the "C:\windows\fonts" folder using Windows Explorer. I've never had a problem doing it this way.

Virgil

#26

I was always taught to use the install procedure.

It use to be that you can have fonts in that folder, but not being used by you system. I am glad that that as been removed.

It is alway good to looks at the fonts with a font viewer just before you install them, so you make sure they are the ones you want. I have accidentally installed a bunch of fonts that were not useful to me, when I was dealing with XP and Vista systems on a regular basis. Now I use Ubuntu on my desktop first and Win XP and Win7 on laptops, as needed.

#27

I should have added my caveat that I claim no computer expertise. I'm just a weekend geek with enough knowledge to be dangerous.

When I copy fonts to my C:\Windows\Fonts folder, I get a message saying something along the lines of "Installing ____ font" or words to that effect. It may be (again I speak from ignorance) that copying the fonts does the same thing as using the "official" install procedure. Windows is notorious for having a zillion different ways of accomplishing a task.

My experience has been that fonts installed in the C:\Windows\Fonts folder are available system wide. Again, I've never had a problem regardless of my method of installation.

However, fonts installed in other folders may only be available to specific programs. For example, Adobe Reader comes bundled with a couple of really nice fonts (ex. Minion Pro), but it installs them in a subfolder of the Adobe Reader program. I've always suspected that Adobe does this on purpose so that the fonts are available *only* to Adobe Reader and not other programs.

Virgil

#28

I have been using Windows since Win95 days, whether I liked it or not. I have been using Linux more than Windows since Feb 2010.

The only real problem I had with Windows and Fonts, was almost every time I installed a new packages, it seemed to want to add a set of fonts to the /fonts/ folder whether I wanted them or not. Some did not give me any choice. One dumped almost 120 new fonts into that folder, and it was not something I expected would have any and did not give me the option to say I do not want them.

Yes, LibreOffice may, with some OS version, place fonts in a folder of their choosing and not mine or the normal place[s] where they are kept, but it is not as bad as some I have dealt with. One wanted to add over 550 fonts to my Windows font folder. That was a vector graphic package back in the Win XP days.

What I do, when I find these other font folders, is make sure I copy the fonts to a "storage" folder and then install them so the rest of the packages can access them. I did that with the LO fonts including the DejaVu ones.

I should have added my caveat that I claim no computer expertise. I'm just a weekend geek with enough knowledge to be dangerous.

When I copy fonts to my C:\Windows\Fonts folder, I get a message saying something along the lines of "Installing ____ font" or words to that effect. It may be (again I speak from ignorance) that copying the fonts does the same thing as using the "official" install procedure. Windows is notorious for having a zillion different ways of accomplishing a task.

My experience has been that fonts installed in the C:\Windows\Fonts folder are available system wide. Again, I've never had a problem regardless of my method of installation.

However, fonts installed in other folders may only be available to specific programs. For example, Adobe Reader comes bundled with a couple of really nice fonts (ex. Minion Pro), but it installs them in a subfolder of the Adobe Reader program. I've always suspected that Adobe does this on purpose so that the fonts are available *only* to Adobe Reader and not other programs.

Virgil

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#29

Thank you!

#30

Thanks;
           for adding this interesting addition.

       BTW - curiously wondering - if a 'weekend geek' is also in the
mid-way range between the novices & the geeks, referring to these machines
as 'glorified typewriters' :wink:
           [oops, there I go again - what will this machine do this time as
revenge against me :wink: ]

I should have added my caveat that I claim no computer expertise. I'm just

#31

and how does one acquire these nice fonts?
          I sure would like to know why the good ones seem to be replaced
by these odd-character ones,
             which may or may not be some legitimate Asian language :wink:

#32

I use to go online to the different free font sites [googled them]

Now I have over 14 GB worth and over 100,000 font files. Every so often I do some more sorting to the different style and type folders [i.e. handwriting, holiday, etc.]. The standard Serif and San-serif fonts are sorted by name.

There are many, many, free font sites out there. Some better than others. Right now I tend to look for ones for special usage, like letters made out of bones, or rope, or look like wood. That sort of thing, when I need something I do not have. I have a large collection of handwriting ones. Alway want to find better ones for different types of documents. I currently have over 10,000 handwritten, script, calligraphy, and brush type.

#33

I guess it'd be asking too much for you to share your script-fonts
with me :wink:

       I've been missing them so ... ... ...
           you could DropBox them - http://db.tt/QBTMH08Z

#34

One of my favorite free fonts is OFL Sorts Mill Goudy from http://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/. It comes in both TrueType and OpenType formats. I've found I prefer the TrueType as it displays better on my screen. Both print very nicely.

There are other free fonts at the website that you might enjoy.

One thing I learned the hard way is that free font files sometimes come complete with viruses, so I would be fairly careful about obtaining free fonts online.

Virgil

#35

Well . . . .

I have over 1.5 GB of those fonts in the "handwriting, script, and brush" folder.

If you really want to look for specific fonts, you might want to try the free font sites.
Many of those have a large number of these types of fonts. All you have to do it look and choose.

Uploading takes hours and hours. One DVD in size takes about 10 hours to upload.

So, look at those free fonts sites first. Then if you really want to get MY Collection, we can talk.

#36

Thanks.

       In order to avoid these nasty viruses, I tend to avoid many of these
'finds' through the search engines :wink:

One of my favorite free fonts is OFL Sorts Mill Goudy from http://www.**

#37

Thank you.

#38

That is why I have "Web Of Trust" install on all of my browsers. It is free and works very well. It will rate the sites, when googling, to help you keep out of the nasty sights. I only go to sites listed as "green".

http://www.fontspace.com/

http://www.dafont.com/

http://www.1001freefonts.com/

These are the first three "green" ones I have gone to in the past.

Of course, it is always nice to scan any file you download, just to be on the safe side.

#39

Thanks for these links.