[Enhancement] writer: Footnote / Endnote Styles according to standards

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#1

Hi Stuart.

Thank you for the attention paid to my suggestion for improvement. (nothing
new, of course, but expected).

I've been looking for the way to automatically format the references
included in the files of LibreOffice and that task is complicated when we
need to submit references in some specific format.

The database for bibliographies that we currently have int LibO is a great
help for the organization of the this information, but if we could count
on an automatic way to format the references of these bibliographies
according to specific standards with only select a preset style of
footnote/endnote we would be enhancing the LibreOffice
capabilities, because we could present the same bibliographic reference for
different types of reports according to the required standard by only
selecting the corresponding style.

About the extension: What does not attract me it is that the extension
compels me to use another software out of LibO, and I believe that LibO is
too good to need a third party to carry out a task as simple as the format
to an information which we have in a database made with LibO.

*Ramón E. Tavárez B.*

#2

Ramon, *

RamonTavarez wrote

... we would be enhancing the LibreOffice capabilities, ...

About the extension: What does not attract me it is that the extension
compels me to use another software out of LibO, and I believe that LibO is
too good to need a third party to carry out a task as simple as the format
to an information which we have in a database made with LibO.

Sorry, but the simple truth is that developing and maintaining just a few of
the diverse range of defined styles is out of scope for LibreOffice--but is
fully in scope for projects like Zotero and Mendeley--or the commercial
EndNote product.

Instead LibreOffice provides just the authoring framework for documents in
ODF--to the extent that framework can be extended to support industry
standards CSL (FOSS) or ENS (EndNote) we should.

Improving that framework to support schemes for fielded citation while
writing--supporting parenthetical citation, footnotes, endnotes, and
bibliograhy compliant with styles described in CSL or ENS is where our
development efforts should concentrate. Including collaboration with the
developers of the extensions providing the capability--but it should not be
core to the project.

Stuart

#3

On 05/24/2017 02:42 PM, V Stuart Foote w

Sorry, but the simple truth is that developing and maintaining just a few of
the diverse range of defined styles is out of scope for LibreOffice

A Citation Style Language aware extension could, in theory, support all
8,000+ formatting styles that are in the CitationStyle.org repository,
which utilises a CC-BY-SA 3.0 (unported) license.

but is fully in scope for projects like Zotero and Mendeley--or the commercial

Those two programs use Citation Style Language for bibliographic formatting.

#4

Johnathan,

toki wrote

On 05/24/2017 02:42 PM, V Stuart Foote w

Sorry, but the simple truth is that developing and maintaining just a few
of
the diverse range of defined styles is out of scope for LibreOffice

A Citation Style Language aware extension could, in theory, support all
8,000+ formatting styles that are in the CitationStyle.org repository,
which utilises a CC-BY-SA 3.0 (unported) license.

but is fully in scope for projects like Zotero and Mendeley--or the

commercial

Those two programs use Citation Style Language for bibliographic
formatting.

Yes and both already offer fully functional _extensions_ to LibreOffice :slight_smile:

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The simplest approach to rewriting the Bibliographic Component, is to
abolish the one database for all citations approach that is currently
used. Instead, have one database for every medium and format that is
cited. This is to cover oddities...

That would be the framework to which I refer :wink:

But we were not talking specifically about rewriting the Bibliographic
Component and not clear at all that alone is the best way to proceed in
supporting Citation Styles as it gets rather far into core. Zotero and
Mendeley both hold the data external to the ODF document and depend on
fields and paragraph styles.

Stuart