Error in English string?

l10n
#1

Hi,
Should have gone to the list, sorry

Sujet : Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?
Pour : Jesper Hertel <jesper.hertel@gmail.com>

Hi Jesper

Okay, so there are actually *19 places *where these mysterious "chart
documents" are mentioned:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=hart%20document&sfields=source&soptions=exact

(I search for exact phrase because it is faster, so I left out the c/C in
"chart" in the search).

I wonder what is right. I just never heard of "chart documents", and I
cannot find any in LibreOffice 4.4 when I look around. Under File | New… I
cannot create a new "Chart document"…?

Jesper

There is an English string that I find strange in LibreOffice 4.4:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=Transpar&sfields=source,target&soptions=exact&unit=28584506

Kontekst:

00040502.xhp par_id3151117 143 help.text
Kommentarer:

CssFG

The text for this string says

"Choose <emph>Format - Chart Wall - Transparency</emph> tab (chart
*documents*)"

Shouldn't that be:

"Choose <emph>Format - Chart Wall - Transparency</emph> tab (chart
*objects*)"?

As far as I know, there are no "chart documents" in LibreOffice, but there
are chart objects, and the text does apply to chart objects.

There is a chart file format .odc which is currently not in use in
LibreOffice but it exists in ODF, see here:
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/XML_File_Formats
Kind regards
Sophie

#2

Hi

There is a chart file format .odc which is currently not in use in
LibreOffice but it exists in ODF, see here:
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/XML_File_Formats
Kind regards
Sophie

Actually you can save a chart (once inside it) as odc file.

You can load the odc file and get your chart displayed in LibreOffice Chart.

However, LibreOffice Chart is a bit clumsy at the moment. Thre is room
for improvement.

Regards

#3

Hi :slight_smile:
Also in this string it might make more sense if there is a "the". "Choose
tab" is not great, "Choose the tab" or "Choose a tab" is better.

Choose <emph>Format - Chart Wall - Transparency</emph> tab

would be better as

Choose the <emph>Format - Chart Wall - Transparency</emph> tab

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#4

Ah, interesting! Thank you all for your information.

I can observe that if I select a *Chart object* in Writer (4.4.0.0 alpha2)
and choose File | Save As…, the only suggested file type is ODF Chart
(*.odc). (This could very well confuse average users, as they probably
expect to be always able to save their Writer document as a Writer document
and not a Chart document. They are probably not aware that the difference
is that they just happened to select a Chart object before saving. I would
suggest presenting a dialog box to sort out this situation first, asking
the user if she wants to save the Chart object alone or the whole Writer
document.)

In Windows, when I then save the Chart object, it results in a *.odc file
(a *Chart document*, I assume). That file is *not associated with
LibreOffice* in the file system, and Excel tries to open it when I
double-click it; Excel then reports an error and fails to open it.

When I try to open the just saved *Chart document *file in LibreOffice
(4.4.0.0 alpha2), via File | Open, I get a completely empty Chart opened in
the LibreOffice Chart application. So even LibreOffice cannot open its own
*.odc files, it seems. But maybe that is just a bug in the alpha version?

After having saved a *Chart object *as a *Chart document*, the Writer
document also gets the file name of the *Chart document*, including the
Chart document extension, which seems very odd to me. And when I add more
text to the Writer document and press Ctrl+S to save again, the Writer file
name stays the same, so the Writer document seems to be saved as a Chart
document? Or maybe just with a Chart document file extension? But how can a
Writer document suddenly be saved as a Chart document?

But, back to the actual translation: Do all those 19 strings
<https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=hart%20document&sfields=source&soptions=exact>
really only apply to *.odc *Chart* *documents *but never to *Chart objects*?
And if so, how can that be? It doesn't make much sense to me. Isn't a Chart
document just a Chart object wrapped in a file?

From the information I have been given until now, I would still say, as
originally stated, that the text of those 19 strings should read "chart
object" and not "chart document".

Jesper