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I could not find a place on the website to list a feature request, so
I will try here. Open Office and Libre Office are great tools that
can be used in the enterprise, but since there is not an e-mail
client, my org will gravitate back to MS. Anyway to integrate
Evolution (or like) into Libre offcie?
Thanks,
-Shane
Do you mean you want it to become like KDE Office where it has
integrated email, word processing, calendar, database access,
spreadsheet, presentations, etc. etc?
I really think you will see IBM stop writing checks and offering up code
if they try that. IBM used OO as a basis for Symphony so they could
integrate Symphony with their Lotus Notes platform and base a word
processor on Eclipse. I imagine they will gag a lugey if someone tries
to bundle Libre/OpenOffice with Evolution...even though that would
benefit users...it would more seriously beg the question "Why aren't we
porting KDE Office to use Qt so it can run on Gnome?" since KDE Office
already has all you want, just not as robust with its support of
OpenDocument format.
Hi 
I think that a lot of people use Thunderbird alongside LibreOffice. Apparently
they work together quite well. Perhaps sadly people are given the option to
chose rather than being forced into using 1 specific thing that might not suit
their needs. Evolution seems quite complicated to me so i would go with
Thunderbird or perhaps even go back to Claws. Thunderbird is made by the same
people that make Firefox.
Regards from
Tom
Out of curiosity,
I assume that gravitation back to MS refers to Outlook. So what is compelling that would be needed in something integrated-in/bundled-with LibreOffice that would satisfy whatever that appeal is?
I don't know anything about "Evolution (or like)", so I guess my question is, how does what you see as an alternative satisfy the need that would neutralize the pull back to MS. Put simply, what about those solves the problem you perceive?
- Dennis
PS: I am one of those folks who is quite happy with Outlook. My interest is in knowing what requirements you see, not in advocating for Outlook. I know many people who don't like it.
There are a range of free and open source email clients. Even mail servers. Evolution is just one.
I am like Tom and use Thunderbird. I use it for email and maintaining my calendar. I personally use TaskCoach for my Task Lists.
If I open LibreOffice Writer and select Send > Document as Email,
the package opens a new email in Thunderbird. It is a matter of just setting the Email client in the Internet Options section of the LO preferences. In fact I did not even do this. When I installed LO it extracted the email client name from the system for me but there is always an option to change my preference if I updated by email client.
Some good email clients are available for windows and linux. The absence of a client in the office suite should not cause anyone from not taking up LO. If you company needs alternatives simply search for free and open source email clients and review the results.
A good start...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients
Hi
If you are on Windows then it would be nice to know if LibreOffice works with
"The Bat" in the same way. I'm not sure if it's free (and it's not OpenSource)
but it's an excellent and very sophisticated email client. It's not a step
upwards from Outlook tho. More like a giant leap forwards apparently.
Regards from
Tom
Hi
> I could not find a place on the website to list a feature request, so
> I will try here. Open Office and Libre Office are great tools that
> can be used in the enterprise, but since there is not an e-mail
> client, my org will gravitate back to MS. Anyway to integrate
> Evolution (or like) into Libre offcie?There are a range of free and open source email clients. Even mail
servers. Evolution is just one.I am like Tom and use Thunderbird. I use it for email and maintaining my
calendar. I personally use TaskCoach for my Task Lists.If I open LibreOffice Writer and select Send > Document as Email,
the package opens a new email in Thunderbird. It is a matter of just
setting the Email client in the Internet Options section of the LO
preferences. In fact I did not even do this. When I installed LO it
extracted the email client name from the system for me but there is
always an option to change my preference if I updated by email client.Some good email clients are available for windows and linux. The absence
of a client in the office suite should not cause anyone from not taking
up LO. If you company needs alternatives simply search for free and open
source email clients and review the results.A good start...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients--
Cheers SimonSimon Cropper
Principal Consultant
Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au
I use Evolution but second the remarks above about general integration
with the client.
Am 12.07.2011 18:46, Shane Van Loenen wrote:
I could not find a place on the website to list a feature request, so
I will try here. Open Office and Libre Office are great tools that
can be used in the enterprise, but since there is not an e-mail
client, my org will gravitate back to MS. Anyway to integrate
Evolution (or like) into Libre offcie?Thanks,
-Shane
This office suite serves one single main purpose. It is the reference implementation of the ODF standard.
It creates office documents in the ODF file formats (*.odt, *.ods, *.odp) which can be read by a wide variety of programs for decades to come without too heavy technical problems and without any legal issues.
Document creation has nothing to do with web-content nor email. Neither web-content nor email suffer from proprietary file formats.
Whatever your preferred email program has to offer, it is unrelated to document creation.
LibreOffice should be able to cooperate with your prefered mail program in 3 ways:
1) When you click on a mail hyperlink your mail application should start up with a new email and the clicked mail address in the receipient field.
2) When you call menu:File>Send>Email your mail application should start with a new email and the current document attatched in ODF, Microsoft or PDF format.
3) You should be able to use the address lists of your email application for serial letters where you send the same letter to a list of receipients. The list will be read from the address book of your mail application.
Hi,
Shane Van Loenen wrote:
I could not find a place on the website to list a feature request, so
I will try here. Open Office and Libre Office are great tools that
can be used in the enterprise, but since there is not an e-mail
client, my org will gravitate back to MS. Anyway to integrate
Evolution (or like) into Libre offcie?
Just out of curiosity... what exactly is "integration" between office
suite and email client to you? I think there is much misunderstanding
about this.
I happily use LibO and Thunderbird. A software for doing office things,
a software for doing email things.
Lorenzo.
That would be a viciously short sighted opinion, but consistent with
bottom posting.
Hi
+1
would be my vote for how this all works. I've not really tried it but hopefully
it works that way for several email clients possibly including the proprietary
"The Bat". I tend to prefer OpenSource programs such as Thunderbird or Claws
and suspect that Thunderbird is the most likely one to work well. Evo has a
surprisingly small team and would probably welcome more devs. It would
certainly be good to support them better.
Regards from
Tom
I can understand why software companies expand software products to do
more and more things (to justify new versions, to convince chumps to
'upgrade', and to push other software companies out of the picture),
but I do not understand those who buy into such a process with its
accompanying bloat.
I want to choose the product which is best for my needs in each area
where I have a need for an application. If, for instance, I use
web-based e-mail, I have no need for an office suite which includes an
e-mail function and I neither want to spend the money nor waste hard
drive space for such a 'feature'.
The worst expansions-into-bloat are what used to be anti-virus
products which now try to be firewalls, anti-spam,
anti-whatever-you-might-not-want, etc. But Microsoft Office isn't all
that far behind. I'm actually surprised they haven't rolled Visio into
the suite. (Or have they and I didn't notice?)
I understand not wanting to install features you don't use. Similarly, I would like have in LO/OO.o is the ability to install just the parts I actually use, and to have this save disk space. Our of 1 or 2 TB 200 MB isn't a whole lot. But a 100 MB here and a 100 MB there, pretty soon, adds up to a lot of space, to paraphrase Tip O'neal.
David Teague
In 1980, we paid $5000 for a 5 MB hard disk, shared among 15 Apple II+ computers.
The pathetic draw tool MS had before purchasing another company was
actually part of office for a while. Now it usually only comes bundled
with Corporate and super professional versions. They found people would
pay for a drawing program.
KOffice includes a pretty good drawing program bundled as well...much
better than Visio.
Lorenzo
Hi,
Shane Van Loenen wrote:
> I could not find a place on the website to list a feature request, so
> I will try here. Open Office and Libre Office are great tools that
> can be used in the enterprise, but since there is not an e-mail
> client, my org will gravitate back to MS. Anyway to integrate
> Evolution (or like) into Libre offcie?
Just out of curiosity... what exactly is "integration" between office
suite and email client to you? I think there is much misunderstanding
about this.
I happily use LibO and Thunderbird. A software for doing office things,
a software for doing email things.
Good question.
Lorenzo.
> Thanks,
>
> -Shane
>
For me, I do not regularly use LO email features. I tend send files as
an attachment from the email client. So good behavior for me is that
attaching files is easy and opening attachments is straightforward.
Any particular reason why you don't just use Evolution as your mail
client in: Tools|Options|Internet|Email?
Hi
I am having trouble getting people to use LibreOffice at work too and the
reasons are somewhat mystifying sometimes. They have seen LO out-perform MS
Office in a number of ways but still don't even try to use LO. It would be good
to get an answer from the person that initially asked for help because people
are obviously using MSO in ways that are not obvious.
Regards from
Tom
OOo/LibO has options to talk to e-mail programs.
IMHO adding yet another (almos unrelated) program to an already huge office suite would be a bad move. I guess then people would "gravitate back to MS" because either: a) OOo is too "heavy" or b) they don't like the bundled e-mail client.
Besides, I can't see why the lack of full e-mail functionality in OOo is keeping one tied with Microsoft products. Just install Thunderbird or Evolution and off you go.
Perhaps the question is "how can I have all the features that MS Outlook offers with free/libre programs ?".
Just as an example, Mozilla Thunderbird + Lightning gives you e-mail, calendar, alarms, periodic reminders, todo-lists ("activities"). You can have multiple calendars, too, including remote ones.
HTH
Hi Marcello
OOo/LibO has options to talk to e-mail programs.
IMHO adding yet another (almos unrelated) program to an already huge office suite would be a bad move. I guess then people would "gravitate back to MS" because either: a) OOo is too "heavy" or b) they don't like the bundled e-mail client.
We use both MSO and LibO... MSO in most cases is "preferred" because it start faster. We have also some programs that generate doc documents with a collage process. In this case we should convert all procedures for the odt. The sysadmin mantra say: "is working? don't touch it !" ... I introduced a lot of open source software in the company with good results but in some fields there is much resistance to change (understandable)
Besides, I can't see why the lack of full e-mail functionality in OOo is keeping one tied with Microsoft products. Just install Thunderbird or Evolution and off you go.
Perhaps the question is "how can I have all the features that MS Outlook offers with free/libre programs ?".
Just as an example, Mozilla Thunderbird + Lightning gives you e-mail, calendar, alarms, periodic reminders, todo-lists ("activities"). You can have multiple calendars, too, including remote ones.
Many users have changed Outlook 2000 with Thunderbird 3.1.x ... and now are happy TB users
Stefano
Hi Marcello
Hi
OOo/LibO has options to talk to e-mail programs.
IMHO adding yet another (almos unrelated) program to an already huge
office suite would be a bad move. I guess then people would "gravitate
back to MS" because either: a) OOo is too "heavy" or b) they don't
like the bundled e-mail client.We use both MSO and LibO... MSO in most cases is "preferred" because it
start faster. We have also some programs that generate doc documents
Yes, MSO has faster startup times also IME, at least on windows. On Ubuntu 10.04 I must say that the provided OOo takes a little time when first started after a reboot, but from then on, given sufficient memory (I have 2.5GB) it starts almost instantly.
with a collage process. In this case we should convert all procedures
for the odt. The sysadmin mantra say: "is working? don't touch it !" ...
I introduced a lot of open source software in the company with good
results
(understandable)
When MSO is part of a custom software infrastructure it's almost impossible to remove unless the whole system is re-designed (and oftern re-implemented). Same for Access (I talk from experience...) 
Besides, I can't see why the lack of full e-mail functionality in OOo
is keeping one tied with Microsoft products. Just install Thunderbird
or Evolution and off you go.
Perhaps the question is "how can I have all the features that MS
Outlook offers with free/libre programs ?".
Just as an example, Mozilla Thunderbird + Lightning gives you e-mail,
calendar, alarms, periodic reminders, todo-lists ("activities"). You
can have multiple calendars, too, including remote ones.Many users have changed Outlook 2000 with Thunderbird 3.1.x ... and now
are happy TB users
IMHO TB is far superioro to Outlook 2K. Don't know about 2K3 or newer versions, though.
It shurely beats OUtlook on price vs. functionality!