I have received a Microsoft Word document which shows one font on screen and
a completely different font when printed.
On screen, the font "drop down" menu says "Monotype Corsiva" but the
document is rendered in something that looks just like Arial.
When printed, the document comes out in a curvy calligraphic font that looks
not unlike the on-line advertisements for the Monotype Corsiva font.
I do not have Corsiva installed on my PC (Windows 7 Pro) so I can imagine
that some font substitution is taking place on screen, but why does it work
when printed.
I'm baffled.
Regards,
Hi.
Possibly your printer has that font installed, so it prints ok but your
PC doesn't so LO performs an on screen substitution. The dropdown shows
what is "called up" in the doc but not the substitution. Can you ask for
the sender of the doc to also send you the font.
steve
I have received a Microsoft Word document which shows one font on screen and
a completely different font when printed.
On screen, the font "drop down" menu says "Monotype Corsiva" but the
document is rendered in something that looks just like Arial.
When printed, the document comes out in a curvy calligraphic font that looks
not unlike the on-line advertisements for the Monotype Corsiva font.
I do not have Corsiva installed on my PC (Windows 7 Pro) so I can imagine
that some font substitution is taking place on screen, but why does it work
when printed.
I'm baffled.
Regards,
That is the issue. If you do not have the font installed, it will not print correctly. LibreOffice will list the font name that is linked to the part of the text your courser is at, but that will not mean a thing except that is the font the original document used.
Also, some printers have hardware installed fonts.
There use to be an extension that indicated what fonts were in the document and were not installed on your computer. I do not know if it is still available.
Then there is the issue of screen fonts vs. printer fonts. I have heard that there may be some problems with LibreOffice settings with some types of fonts on some systems, though I have not had that trouble. MS Office files use to have issues for me back in Win2000 days with Office 2000 .doc files.
Can you get the needed font to install it on your computer?
If you do not know where you can get it, I can help point you in the correct direction OFF LIST.
at "webmaster@krackedpress.com"
The font itself comes from 1991 so it has been around for a bit. I had an HP laser printer that had it hardwired so you did not need to "download" the font to it.
In news:4DD46F85.2060502@krackedpress.com,
webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmaster@krackedpress.com> typed:
I have received a Microsoft Word document which shows
one font on screen and a completely different font when printed.
On screen, the font "drop down" menu says "Monotype
Corsiva" but the document is rendered in something that looks just like
Arial. When printed, the document comes out in a curvy
calligraphic font that looks not unlike the on-line advertisements for
the Monotype
Corsiva font. I do not have Corsiva installed on my PC (Windows 7 Pro)
so I can imagine that some font substitution is taking place on screen,
but why does it work when printed.
I'm baffled.
Regards,That is the issue. If you do not have the font
installed, it will not print correctly. LibreOffice will list the font
name
that is linked to the part of the text your courser is at, but that will
not mean a thing except that is the font the original document used.Also, some printers have hardware installed fonts.
There use to be an extension that indicated what fonts
were in the document and were not installed on your computer. I do
not know if it is still available.Then there is the issue of screen fonts vs. printer
fonts. I have heard that there may be some problems with LibreOffice
settings
with some types of fonts on some systems, though I have not had
that trouble. MS Office files use to have issues for me back in Win2000
days with Office 2000 .doc files.Can you get the needed font to install it on your
computer?
If you do not know where you can get it, I can help point
you in the correct direction OFF LIST.
at "webmaster@krackedpress.com"
The font itself comes from 1991 so it has been around for
a bit. I had an HP laser printer that had it hardwired so you did not
need to "download" the font to it.--
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Won't LO allow you to embed the font right in the document? I can't find it
now but I feel certain I've seen the feature.
HTH,
Twayne`
Steve: "Possibly your printer has that font installed"
Krackedpress: "Also, some printers have hardware installed fonts."
Thank you gentlemen, that does seem to explain things. In particular why
the printout didn't match the screen.
I didn't even know modern printers had installed fonts, I thought everything
was WYSIWYG from the application and OS, so if Libre Office substituted
Arial on-screen I was expecting Arial on-paper. Clearly the printer found a
closer match.
Having now looked into the hardwired fonts issue, I see that the printed
output wasn't actually Corsiva but Zapf Chancery. Zapf Chancery is also not
on the computer but it is in the printer and is close enough to fool me at a
casual inspection.
Krackedpress: "There use to be an extension that indicated what fonts were
in the document and were not installed on your computer. I do not know if
it is still available."
I would love to get my hands on a copy of that, if it's still around. Can
you remember what it was called - so I can start hunting?
Now I just have to identify the alleged benefits of hardwired fonts, and how
to best take advantage of them.
Regards,
AndrewB <andrew@hippofarms.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
Now I just have to identify the alleged benefits of hardwired fonts, and how
to best take advantage of them.
Speaking of printer fonts, it needs a case-by-case analysis, because I
suppose fonts that exist on your printer might not exist on other
printer.
Of course you should not rely on this for document distribution. It also
does not work for on-screen reading.
Best thing to do is probably to embed fonts in the document. But for now
it seems the only way to do so is exporting to PDF/A1-a, which embeds
the required fonts in the PDF.
At least OOo had no way to embed fonts in documents other than PDF. More
about this in my next mail (another reply to this thread).
"Twayne" <TWAYNE@TWAYNESDOMAIN.COM> writes:
In news:4DD46F85.2060502@krackedpress.com,
webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmaster@krackedpress.com> typed:I have received a Microsoft Word document which shows
one font on screen and a completely different font when printed.
[...]
I do not have Corsiva installed on my PC (Windows 7 Pro)
so I can imagine that some font substitution is taking place on screen,
but why does it work when printed.
I'm baffled.That is the issue. If you do not have the font
installed, it will not print correctly. LibreOffice will list the font
name
that is linked to the part of the text your courser is at, but that will
not mean a thing except that is the font the original document used.
[...]
Won't LO allow you to embed the font right in the document? I can't find it
now but I feel certain I've seen the feature.
Unless this has changed in LibO, it doesn't.
There are bugs in the OOo tracker about this:
http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=20370
In a few words, this is (was?) not implemented because noone did it yet,
and because some people fear the draconian laws in the US (DMCA, I'm
looking at you) and its harsh enviroment where some companies want to
make money by simply suing everyone everywhere.
Which is a bit ironic, as OpenOffice has been doing PDF export for ages,
and I suppose that feature embeds non-standard fonts (PDF/A-1a goes
further because it not only requires font embedding, it also embeds
standard fonts).
For decorative font embedding, I either use CUP-PDF with Linux or doPDF for Windows PDF printing.
I rarely use Export to PDF so I do not know which font does and does not embed into the documents.
I just got use to using those to "PDF printers" since it is just like a paper printer, except paperless and to a file.
For "standard fonts", you would have to then decide what is and is not a standard font.
webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
writes:
and I suppose that feature embeds non-standard fonts (PDF/A-1a goes
further because it not only requires font embedding, it also embeds
standard fonts).For "standard fonts", you would have to then decide what is and is not
a standard font.
That's the base fonts as defined by Adobe.
I thought these were the same for PDF and PostScript, but the lists are
slightly different.
For PDF:
- Helvetica
- Times
- Courier
- Symbol
- ZapfDingbats
These, if I am not mistaken, are the fonts every PDF viewer should
provide by itself (same applies to postscript interpreters with the
PostScript base fonts, of course).
See
- http://enwp.org/PostScript_fonts#Core_Font_Set
- http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/fonts.html#Base-14+Fonts
...
Krackedpress: "There use to be an extension that indicated what fonts were
in the document and were not installed on your computer. I do not know if
it is still available."I would love to get my hands on a copy of that, if it's still around. Can
you remember what it was called - so I can start hunting?Now I just have to identify the alleged benefits of hardwired fonts, and how
to best take advantage of them.
In linux you can use spadmin; you can configure in the fonts tab. I
don't know if there is a similar printer utility in LO for Windows.