Fonts: Not all installed fonts are listen at font selection drop list

Alon_Bar-Lev · May 31, 2012, 12:19pm

Hello,

I opened an old document of mine which used the culmus fonts[1], more
precisely the "Frank Ruehl CLM" font. So I guess it used to work back
then in openoffice.

Although the font is installed on the system, the document is not
presented using that font, and the font not listed at the font
drop-list.

I then discovered that a lot of fonts are absent from the selection.

Is there any way to use these fonts within a document? It is very
important as these font for example are complete Hebrew fonts, most
other fonts out there supports only the basics.

Regards,
Alon Bar-Lev.

[1] http://culmus.sourceforge.net/

Tom_Davies · May 31, 2012, 1:09pm

Hi
There is an expert on fonts that may be around later but they are a complete mystery to me. I take it you do have the fonts installed on your system?
Regards from
Tom

Alon_Bar-Lev · May 31, 2012, 1:43pm

Thanks,
Yes, I wrote that fonts are installed... and working for example in Firefox.

iplaw67 · May 31, 2012, 4:50pm

Hi Alon,

Is there any way to use these fonts within a document? It is very
important as these font for example are complete Hebrew fonts, most
other fonts out there supports only the basics.

You're not using a Mac, are you, by any chance ?

Alex

Alon_Bar-Lev · May 31, 2012, 4:51pm

Oh...
Sorry!
I am using Linux.
Gentoo to be specific.
Version: app-office/libreoffice-3.5.4.2-r1

Thanks!

iplaw67 · May 31, 2012, 6:05pm

Hi again,

Oh...
Sorry!
I am using Linux.
Gentoo to be specific.
Version: app-office/libreoffice-3.5.4.2-r1

Hmm, look in your psfonts subdirectory and see whats in there (if it si
still there, I can't check at the moment on a Linux box). Support for
Type1 fonts was removed at some stage what with the change to CUPS
direct printing support rather than through psprint.

Alex

Alon_Bar-Lev · May 31, 2012, 6:51pm

Thanks!
It is type1 font indeed...

Alon_Bar-Lev · May 31, 2012, 7:09pm

I converted the font to ttf and replaced its name within to different
name using binary find/replace within content Frank->Franc in UTF-8
and UCS-2, installed under my user as user font and it is working.

But I don't think this is a valid solution...

Alon.

iplaw67 · June 1, 2012, 7:22am

Hi Alon,

I converted the font to ttf and replaced its name within to different
name using binary find/replace within content Frank->Franc in UTF-8
and UCS-2, installed under my user as user font and it is working.

But I don't think this is a valid solution...

Unfortunately, it is the only solution that I know of (or that I can
recall) at present.

Alex

NoOp · June 3, 2012, 3:01am

Perhaps I'm missing the picture, but when I install culmus fonts (from
my distro Ubuntu - culmus and culmus-fancy) I get:

$ ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/culmus
DavidCLM-BoldItalic.ttf MiriamMonoCLM-BoldOblique.ttf
DavidCLM-Bold.ttf MiriamMonoCLM-Bold.ttf
DavidCLM-MediumItalic.ttf MiriamMonoCLM-BookOblique.ttf
DavidCLM-Medium.ttf MiriamMonoCLM-Book.ttf
HadasimCLM-BoldOblique.ttf SimpleCLM-BoldOblique.ttf
HadasimCLM-Bold.ttf SimpleCLM-Bold.ttf
HadasimCLM-RegularOblique.ttf SimpleCLM-MediumOblique.ttf
HadasimCLM-Regular.ttf SimpleCLM-Medium.ttf
MiriamCLM-Bold.ttf StamAshkenazCLM.ttf
MiriamCLM-Book.ttf StamSefaradCLM.ttf

And

$ locate FrankRueh
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/FrankRuehlCLM-Bold.afm
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/FrankRuehlCLM-Bold.pfa
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/FrankRuehlCLM-BoldOblique.afm
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/FrankRuehlCLM-BoldOblique.pfa
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/FrankRuehlCLM-Medium.afm
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/FrankRuehlCLM-Medium.pfa
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/FrankRuehlCLM-MediumOblique.afm
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/FrankRuehlCLM-MediumOblique.pfa

Those fonts show up just fine for me in LO
LibreOffice 3.5.3.2
Build ID: 235ab8a-3802056-4a8fed3-2d66ea8-e241b80
And AOO 3.4.0.

Alon_Bar-Lev · June 3, 2012, 4:20am

Thanks!
Are you sue you see the Frank Ruehl font at the font drop down?

Alon

Alon_Bar-Lev · June 3, 2012, 4:51am

Solved, thanks to NoOp hint, figured out that *.afm are missing at Gentoo.
Font is working, although no preview in drop down as in the font I
converted to TTF.
But this is great!

Thanks to all.

krackedpress · June 3, 2012, 2:02pm

As the original poster, including the misspelled title, the problem was not the drop down menu on the toolbar, but the menu with highlighting and right-clicking to choose the font for that section. That is where only the first 50, 75, or whatever, fonts show up and the rest are not shown at all.

So for the original posting, it is not solved. For the Type-1 fonts issue you seemed to have it may have been solved, but not of the original question/issue.

Alon_Bar-Lev · June 3, 2012, 2:38pm

I am confused.
I am the original poster... and the one who made the spelling thank
you for draw my attention to this, sorry about that.
As far as I am concerned with fixed Gentoo ebuild that installs the
*.afm the type1 culmus fonts are shown in the drop down and working.

Tom_Davies · June 3, 2012, 3:17pm

Hi
Probably one of you guys did a "Reply to" and then re-wrote the subject-line to ask a new question. Either that or someone is doing too much typing and possibly ill or hazy and getting confused about which thread they were writing too when they wrote that first line. Since Tim is quite prolific here my money would be on him. If it's the subject-line issue then i would be betting on Alon.

It is much nicer if people can start a new thread for a new question by
writing their own fresh email and copy&pasting the address of the
Users List into the "To" field instead of accidentally hijacking a
thread.

Confusion and newness happens [shrugs] no big deal. Hopefully all of us are new at something and learning new tricks. :) So, don't worry either way around.

Regards from
Tom

krackedpress · June 3, 2012, 6:06pm

So Am I.
I created the same "posting" when I found out that if you highlight the text and right-click and go to the font options, you get a limited font listing.

MAYBE the two posting have nearly the same title.

krackedpress · June 3, 2012, 6:14pm

Well Tom,
I do my best to create a new thread, and not reply to an older thread, when I ask my question.

I know I created a new thread with my question, so I still think the two threads had very similar titles and either my memory is confused or someone else's, SINCE the titles are so close.

Still
There are some issues with font drop-down menus in one way to get to its display, do not show the other way the drop-down menu is gotten to.

For me it did not show all the fonts after 50 or so listings. For the other user it seems that certain font types are not showing up for some their fonts. STILL they are both the same concern of our fonts are not ALL showing up.

We both have concerns, one seemed fixed and one seems to still be an issue with my testing for 3.5.4.

NoOp · June 8, 2012, 6:44pm

Hi Probably one of you guys did a "Reply to" and then re-wrote the
subject-line to ask a new question. Either that or someone is doing
too much typing and possibly ill or hazy and getting confused about
which thread they were writing too when they wrote that first line.
Since Tim is quite prolific here my money would be on him. If it's
the subject-line issue then i would be betting on Alon.

It is much nicer if people can start a new thread for a new question
by writing their own fresh email and copy&pasting the address of the
Users List into the "To" field instead of accidentally hijacking a
thread.

It's much nicer if posters on this list: 1) used a client that properly
shows message threading, 2) bothered to check the facts prior to posting.

<http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/thrd3.html>
<http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg20700.html>

It's also easy enough to check the headers of Alon's _original post_ and
see that there are no 'In-Reply-To' and/or 'References' headers.

Confusion and newness happens [shrugs] no big deal. Hopefully all of
us are new at something and learning new tricks. So, don't worry
either way around.

Newness has nothing to do with it... I reckon that both you and
'webmaster-Kracked_P_P' owe Alon Bar-Lev an apology.

As an FYI: 'webmaster-Kracked_P_P's orginal post (only one he's made on
this list as OP regarding fonts) was similar, but not this thread:

Tom_Davies · June 8, 2012, 7:14pm

Hi
Wow, it is good to see the idea of customer care being advocated by someone on this list. When i saw who was advocating it i nearly fell off my chair! As it is my screen is now covered in tea and needs a good clean. Thanks for cheering me up and yes i agree that it would be good to avoid insulting new people that post to this list.

@ Alon
Many apologies for any insult i gave.

Regards from
Tom