formatting

Is there some way, while in Impress, to make the desired font the
default for that particular file?
          it's so frustrating to have to continually re-apply the text's
font.

       I like to use differing fonts but within any one file, I want to use
the same font.

Yes, it is.

The answer is: styles.

In Impress, there are two styles categories : images and presentations (display them using F11).

In the images category, setting Default style font will propagate to the others, because Default is their common parent (select the Hierarchy option at the bottom of the styles window).

In the presentations category, apart from the outline1..9 styles, styles have no parent. So you'd have to set outline1 font (which will propagate to the outlineX styles) and to set each of the other styles font to get to what you're looking for.

Disclaimer: the names used above are a free translation from my FR LibO.

Thanks for your response.

       Unfortunately, it's 'clear as mud' :wink:
           (1) - I want to be able to make the font of a single file
automatic ... not necessarily using that font again in another file.
           (2) - the style of the file otherwise is defaulted for that file
... just not the font.
           (3) - F11 does nothing in Impress; nor any of these F keys in
OO-LO
           (4) - propagate ... hierarchy ... ??? [from gardening to
history-genealogy ... ]
           (5) - FR LibO ??? [parlez-vous francais?]

        Thanks for your response.

        Unfortunately, it's 'clear as mud' :wink:

:,(

            (1) - I want to be able to make the font of a single file
automatic ... not necessarily using that font again in another file.

Basically, using styles allows just that: set the styles of a particular file.

            (2) - the style of the file otherwise is defaulted for that file
... just not the font.

Now, I'm lost :wink:

            (3) - F11 does nothing in Impress; nor any of these F keys in
OO-LO

Well, mine does. Try the Format / Styles and formatting menu which does the same.
This Styles and formatting window lists the styles that are currently defined in the document.

            (4) - propagate ... hierarchy ... ??? [from gardening to
history-genealogy ... ]

LOL!

Styles can be hierarchically connected with each other: a style can be the parent of another one.

EG: in Impress, in the Styles and formatting window (see 3. above) click on the Presentation styles button (2nd from the left on the top row). Also, select the Hierarchy type in the bottom list. You'll notice that the styles named Outline1..Outline9 are members of the same "family".

Any change applied to a parent automagically propagates :wink: to its heirs. This means that setting the font of a parent automatically sets its children font.

I hope I made me clear this time.

            (5) - FR LibO ??? [parlez-vous francais?]

At times, yes :wink: but not on this board.

Hi :slight_smile:
I think the French team focus more on their Faq than on documentation
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/fr
but here is their home-page for LO
http://fr.libreoffice.org/
which looks quite full and has a lot of pages.

I'm not sure it really helps this time, sorry!
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

You're obviously knowledgeable, but 'talking over my head' :wink:

          and you obviously have a good sense of humour :wink:

       wishing you 'Bon Chance' this day, and always,

And I offered to send you a copy of a slide show which would visually show you how to do many things in Impress. I have not seen any comments about it. It might be "talking over your head", or it might not. How will you know unless you got the slide show and studied it? It seems like you would like to learn more about Impress.

--Dan

anne-ology wrote:

So you're able to change the text on all the slides?;
          then mine has a bug in it somewhere ... carried over from OO I
guess :wink:

       So, all you computer geniuses, what's the solution? - I'm awaiting
your responses now.

I don't know anything about the inner workings of LO. I'm actually just a

Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what mean when you ask "So you're able to change the text on all the slides?" What type of change are you talking about? Are you talking about changing the font of the text on all the slides?
      You have not even stated what style you have applied to your text. Nor have you stated what styles you are using in your slides. Nor have you described what layout you have selected from the Layout section of the Task Pane. Please give us some details.
      I was using styles in Impress before OOo 2.0. For all layouts which have a title "box" at the top of the page, LO and AOO apply the Title style listed in the Presentation styles list. Modifying this style modifies all the titles in all the slides at the same time. You have a copy of my slide show. Change one of the styles in the Title style and look at the titles in all the styles. For example, in the Font Effects tab, change the font color. This will change the font color for every slide title in the presentation. What I have described is how Impress has worked for "years."

--Dan

anne-ology wrote:

That's great ... but it doesn't work that way for me.

       Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and
I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the
default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no
place to choose the font for the text.

       Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50
this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'.

       Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here
would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ...
           then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it
was Ariel with black,
           so I 'selected all' & re-chose the font & color ... ditto for
each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all'
... but the text & color do not remain.

       These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work
the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I
add the new slides.

       Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm
referring; thanks.

     Could we be more detailed in this thread, please? I don't know what

Could you create and send me a presentation to my email address? 3-5 slides may be sufficient. I need to see what you are doing and perhaps how you are doing it.

--Dan

anne-ology wrote:

        Forinstance, this last presentation I chose the blue border ... and
I always choose the blank slide [although this refuses to remain the
default], ... then I chose the effects, the timing, ... then there's no
place to choose the font for the text.

You are correct, there is no menu item where you can select a font that is subsequently the default for that slide or file. In order to change the font you have to select the text (or modify its style). The text needs to be highlighted with the mouse cursor. Do you understand and know how to do that?

        Then I added twice the number of slides I figured I'd need [added 50
this time] ... then clicked on 'apply to all'.

What are the steps to get to this "apply to all" button? I don't remember seeing it.

        Then I added text to the first slide - the size of the font here
would be different being the header, [I chose papyrus with red] ...
            then I went on to the next slide ... and added the text ... it
was Ariel with black,
            so I 'selected all' & re-chose the font & color ... ditto for
each subsequent slide; each time, I can return to hit the 'apply to all'
... but the text & color do not remain.

Before you "select all" you need to go to the OUTLINE tab. Do you know how to do that?

Before you go to the outline tab you need to TYPE in ALL of your text. However, to save you some work, lets limit "all" to two slides. So...

STEP 1: Create 2 slides (you've already done that).
STEP 2: Type in all of your text into all of your slides (here we're pretending that 2 slides are all you have)
STEP 3: Go to the OUTLINE tab. Note that you can go to the outline tab before or after typing in text, the order doesn't matter but you MUST be in OUTLINE mode before selecting all.
STEP 4: Select all. (One way to do this is with CTRL-A). You should visually see all of your text on all of your (2) slides highlighted.
STEP 5: Change the font (I assume you know how to change the font. If not, ask.) Also make your color changes at this time.

Note: I have not tested this with color, just fonts.

Be advised this is NOT the best way to design your presentation. The experts here (which I'm not) recommend (and I have no argument with them) that the best way to change fonts and other attributes is through the use of styles.

You should be aware that manually changing fonts as described above SUPERSEDES styles. In other words, you can change the style attributes all you want, if you've already manually changed the font, styles will have no effect. To get styles to work again, you need to select the text and click on the FORMAT menu then select the DEFAULT FORMATTING menu item which is first on the list. That will clear the above manual font changes and the styles should automatically start working. This is probably the key to your style problems.

Of course for you to see any style changes you have to first change the style attributes. Ask if you don't know how to do that.

        These details are added for you, Dan, although it works/doesn't work
the same no matter what other styles I've chosen, either initially or as I
add the new slides.

        Andrew, I think you're the only one who understands to what I'm
referring; thanks.

Yeah, I hear that a lot. :-\

To those that can do something about it: I've noticed there are some confusing aspects. For one thing, right clicking on text brings up a menu that has a "styles" item. Those styles refer to what is elsewhere called "font effects". For example "strikethrough", bold, italics, etc. This can be confusing to a beginner. In the "normal" tab, right clicking shows a menu item called "edit style". In the "outline" tab that item appears to become "presentation object". There are other similar confusing and inconsistent items related to this. Someone really needs to sit down and take a good look.

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yes, Andrew, it works that way ...
           but I don't want to complete the PP then select the font-color;
              I want to see each slide finished before going on to the next
one.

       With each font, the placement & size changes, therefore by waiting
until after the PP is completed before choosing the font would mean I'd
have to re-do each slide again to be sure the placement was just so. That
method is even more time consuming.
           [this probably explains why so many PPs look messy, with the
lettering catawampus, the pictures skewed, ... ]

       BTW FYI - right below the timing button, is the apply to all button.

I'm sorry that I did not mention this earlier in this thread. The Impress Guide explains how to create a slide presentation with some detail. It is available for download at:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

--Dan

anne-ology wrote:

Anne,

The answer suddenly dawned on me. I believe it was Brian Barker that actually provided the solution to my problem, so he gets 90% of the credit.

As he suggested to me, create a template. I think that might work for you too. If he's willing, Brian would be a better guide on how to do that than I.

(Frustratingly, I cannot find his wonderful explanation to me. I'm sorry to say I may have deleted it by accident. I have this weird problem where I click the mouse once and it sometimes acts like I either double-clicked it - and executes a file I had merely meant to select, or it acts like I clicked it twice - and so deletes two emails when I had only intended to delete one and I don't always notice. You have no idea how aggravating that is!)

The answer suddenly dawned on me. I believe it was Brian Barker that actually provided the solution to my problem, so he gets 90% of the credit. As he suggested to me, create a template. I think that might work for you too. If he's willing, Brian would be a better guide on how to do that than I.

That's very kind of you, but I must protest! I don't recognise this description, and whoever really did you this favour deserves all that credit, not me.

(Frustratingly, I cannot find his wonderful explanation to me. ...

Er, neither can I!

Brian Barker

The answer suddenly dawned on me. I believe it was Brian Barker that actually provided the solution to my problem, so he gets 90% of the credit. As he suggested to me, create a template. I think that might work for you too. If he's willing, Brian would be a better guide on how to do that than I.

That's very kind of you, but I must protest! I don't recognise this description, and whoever really did you this favour deserves all that credit, not me.

(Frustratingly, I cannot find his wonderful explanation to me. ...

Er, neither can I!

Brian Barker

Turns out it was Dan. Sorry about that Dan (and Brian)! I trust you don't mind if I repost your explanation of how to use templates?

Anne - Perhaps you'll be able to adapt it to your situation. There's some help in the help file - use "defaults;fonts" as your search string. If that's not enough, maybe Dan (or anyone else) can help you. Or, I could be wrong about the solution.

Dan wrote in a different thread:

Hi :slight_smile:
Brilliant!!  It's rare to see someone put that effort in to finding out and helping other people.  Obviously there are a few people (such as Dan, Brian, Alex, Jay, Regina, hmmm, quite a few) and it's good to see someone possibly joining their ranks :slight_smile:
Nicely done!
Congrats and regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi :slight_smile:
Dohhhh!!  This is very confusing!  I'll be glad when i've got back to where i was before my 'hols'
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: