getting larger set of colors that the standard that comes with LO

Here is a question, and answer. . .

How can I add more colors to the list that is shown in Writer and Calc, when you choose a font color or the background color for a "cell"?

Well you could add one, one at a time, through LO's internal ability to add colors. That is not the way I am talking about, this time.

There is a "standard.soc" file that is used to store the Hex color code and name, along with the order that color is in the list.

You can always add a large number of colors to that file. I sure did.

One person on these lists helped me out with this "idea" and I build a "whopper" of a color list.

Of course there may be some overlapping of colors, but I think that it is OK, since there are several different color set listed on my file. Some of the color names and the associated Hex codes might not be listed correctly, but I was relying on others for these codes and names. I have a HTML page of color names and codes that are different than any other list I have seen, but that is OK as long as the color is what you want, whatever the name is.

One of the color "lists" is the "Branding Colors" for LibreOffice. Things like the official Green 2 and Yellow 3.

So where is this file located? I have not looked for it, yet on a Windows system, but you can search for it easily enough. For Ubuntu, LO 4.x stores the file in the following area:

<home folder/user-name>.config/libreoffice/4/user/config

note: make sure your "Show hidden files" option is checked so you can see the ".config" folder listed in your "Home" folder.

For me it is - - "timothy/.config/libreoffice/4/user/config"
since my home folder's user name is "timothy".

rename the old "standard.soc" file as "standard.soc--old.txt" or something that shows you it was the original one..
copy the new one in its place.

Well, to get you started, here is the one I use. It is about 2000 colors listings in size. I kept the original color list at the top of the file and added the LO "Branding Colors" next, then just started adding other sets of colors I was given.

https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files/download/2014-calendars/standard.soc

The format is shown below.
First the color's Hex code, then the name associated with that color.

draw:color="#70a752"/><draw:color draw:name="LO Green 0"
draw:color="#106802"/><draw:color draw:name="LO Green 1"
draw:color="#528b8b"/><draw:color draw:name="DARK TURQUOISE"
draw:color="#00688b"/><draw:color draw:name="DIM GRAY"
draw:color="#696969"/><draw:color draw:name="DODGER BLUE 1"
draw:color="#6b0094"/><draw:color draw:name="Magenta 8"
draw:color="#5e11a6"/><draw:color draw:name="Blue 1"
draw:color="#e6e6e6"/><draw:color draw:name="Blue gray"
draw:color="#00ffff"/><draw:color draw:name="Light red"
draw:color="#ff0000"/><draw:color draw:name="Light magenta"

Here is a list of some of the colors in the HTML file I talked about [above] with the interesting color names. I will add them to the "standard.soc" file, one of these days. How many of you could use one of the "Chocolate" colors or how about "Snow". "Gold" is always good, but the list did not have "silver" or "copper" in it. It does have 100 versions of Gray, from the darkest [nearly black] to the lightest [nearly white].

BROWN #A52A2A
BROWN 1 #FF4040
BROWN 2 #EE3B3B
BROWN 3 #CD3333
BROWN 4 #8B2323
BURLYWOOD #DEB887
BURLYWOOD 1 #FFD39B
BURLYWOOD 2 #EEC591
BURLYWOOD 3 #CDAA7D

CHARTREUSE 1 #7FFF00
CHARTREUSE 2 #76EE00
CHARTREUSE 3 #66CD00
CHARTREUSE 4 #458B00
CHOCOLATE #D2691E
CHOCOLATE 1 #FF7F24
CHOCOLATE 2 #EE7621
CHOCOLATE 3 #CD661D
CORAL #FF7F50
CORAL 1 #FF7256
CORAL 2 #EE6A50
CORAL 3 #CD5B45
CORAL 4 #8B3E2F

GOLD 1 #FFD700
GOLD 2 #EEC900
GOLD 3 #CDAD00
GOLD 4 #8B7500
GOLDENROD #DAA520
GOLDENROD 1 #FFC125
GOLDENROD 2 #EEB422
GOLDENROD 3 #CD9B1D

HONEYDEW 1 #F0FFF0
HONEYDEW 2 #E0EEE0
HONEYDEW 3 #C1CDC1
HONEYDEW 4 #838B83

LEMON CHIFFON 1 #FFFACD
LEMON CHIFFON 2 #EEE9BF
LEMON CHIFFON 3 #CDC9A5
LEMON CHIFFON 4 #8B8970

SNOW 1 #FFFAFA
SNOW 2 #EEE9E9
SNOW 3 #CDC9C9
SNOW 4 #8B8989

On Sat, 11/1/14, Kracked_P_P---webmaster <webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
Subject: [libreoffice-users] getting larger set of colors that the standard that comes with LO
To: "LibreO - Users Global" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
Date: Saturday, 11 January, 2014, 9:03 AM

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rename the old "standard.soc" file as
"standard.soc--old.txt" or something that shows you it was
the original one..
copy the new one in its place.

Well, to get you started, here is the one I use.  It is
about 2000 colors listings in size.  I kept the
original color list at the top of the file and added the LO
"Branding Colors" next, then just started adding other sets
of colors I was given.

https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files/download/2014-calendars/standard.soc

---snip----

thanks for all of your efforts. however, when i tried to download the above file, it was taking me to a owncloud page asking for user name and password. as i do not have an account at owncloud.documentfoundation.org, i am unable to download the standard.soc. please have a look at the link. according to the directions available here (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Owncloud), the public url should look like this - https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/QA/Triage_Contest_2013 .

regards,

som

Here is the corrected URL [hopefully] to get the larger color list file.
Actually it is to the folder that contains the file.

https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/New-Colors#

if this does not work, let me know.

Take this file "standard--kpp-2000-plus-colors.soc"
and rename it to "standard.soc"
and place it in the proper folder, shown below, and there you have it.
Restart LO to activate the new color list for font and other color options.

Here is a question, and answer. . .

How can I add more colors to the list that is shown in Writer and Calc, when you choose a font color or the background color for a "cell"?

Well you could add one, one at a time, through LO's internal ability to add colors. That is not the way I am talking about, this time.

There is a "standard.soc" file that is used to store the Hex color code and name, along with the order that color is in the list.

You can always add a large number of colors to that file. I sure did.

One person on these lists helped me out with this "idea" and I build a "whopper" of a color list.

Of course there may be some overlapping of colors, but I think that it is OK, since there are several different color set listed on my file. Some of the color names and the associated Hex codes might not be listed correctly, but I was relying on others for these codes and names. I have a HTML page of color names and codes that are different than any other list I have seen, but that is OK as long as the color is what you want, whatever the name is.

One of the color "lists" is the "Branding Colors" for LibreOffice. Things like the official Green 2 and Yellow 3.

So where is this file located? I have not looked for it, yet on a Windows system, but you can search for it easily enough. For Ubuntu, LO 4.x stores the file in the following area:

<home folder/user-name>.config/libreoffice/4/user/config

note: make sure your "Show hidden files" option is checked so you can see the ".config" folder listed in your "Home" folder.

For me it is - - "timothy/.config/libreoffice/4/user/config"
since my home folder's user name is "timothy".

rename the old "standard.soc" file as "standard.soc--old.txt" or something that shows you it was the original one..
copy the new one in its place.

Well, to get you started, here is the one I use. It is about 2000 colors listings in size. I kept the original color list at the top of the file and added the LO "Branding Colors" next, then just started adding other sets of colors I was given.

<snip>

https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/QA/New-Colors#

this worked. thanks for the file. here (https://db.tt/pLDjVXJW) is a screenshot of libreoffice after replacing the original with this standard.soc on a Xubuntu 13.10.

regards,

som

Thanks "som"

I redid the arrangement of some of the colors in the original large color file and put that in the ownCloud folder. Plus I added a few more colors I found.

I found Hex codes for colors like
Silver, Copper, Wood, etc..

So I added it to the second one.

I found a set of Hex codes that do not have any named to them, but they explore the range of colors, from light to dark, starting with one color/code.

This is a sample of those color tables.

http://libreoffice-na.us/color-coder-tables.png

I may work on creating a file with those color in it. Although there are not names for them, I would end up using their Hex codes for the names, unless there is no need for naming the colors in the list.

If you look at the color table in Writer, via. its table properties for the background of a cell, you can see it another way.

http://libreoffice-na.us/writer-color-table.png

This is a screen clip of Writer and one of my calendars that I made from a .doc template I found.

The bottom two rows, and part of the row above that, are the Branding Colors, so if you want to create something with the LO Branded Colors you do not have to look any farther. Yes, above those colors there are colors like Blue 8 or Turquoise 2, but there is no indication if any of those colors are the Branded Colors or not. I made sure that the colors had names like LO green 4 or LO yellow 1 so you know that they are the colors listed in the Branding information page.

With over 2,000 colors in the list, the users should be able to find something they would like to use. When I have the time to make a new one, with the colors in the first image's file, then there will be a lot more choices.

I am working on increasing the "official" installed color list/chart/table with a lot of "new" ones.

In this folder, there are two standard.soc files, but I am working on an even larger one.

https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/QA/New-Colors#

My current working standard.soc file is about 2224 colors in size.
I am adding color tables I have found, plus other "named" colors.

Right now I have added 2 tables with 77 colors each. I have a few more of these tables to go.
As for the "named" colors, I found :
brass, bronze, copper, gold, wood, and others with those colors in their names [plus others as well].

It takes some time to create the lines of "code" for each color, times 70+, times 2 or more, then adding them to the file and correcting mistakes.

But I will upload what I have soon.

Did I send you a copyof the colour soc I use?
(The one that is 2.5 MB in size, not the one that is 2.x GB in size.

jonathon

will that not make libreoffice a tiny bit slower?

som

you might have

Not a bit.

Actually, it might make it 1/100 of a second slower on startup, or something like that.

I see no difference at all.
EXCEPT deciding which color[s] I want to use for my text color or cell background.

Now there is a possibility of 16+ million colors but I was told, in a science program, that people cannot see that many colors or tell them apart. I would not want to deal with that anyways. There are a lot of colors that are out there that are useful to people. If you want to draw an image in Draw and you want shades of skin colors or different colors for fire or candle light, then you really need a better selection of colors than the default one. Yes you can add them, one by one, but it helps if you have those colors [or colors near to what you need] in your color chart/table/list.

Is it me or does this, as an interface, look like it's getting out of control.

Might I suggest it is time to allow
1) A default 4 rows of 8, a 32 basic color set.
2) Above that, rows of 8 of "Last Colors Used". "Last Colors Used" should be selectable in 'Defaults' to the multiples of 8 up to a maximum of 32 (or some number).
3) At the bottom a click to see "More Colors..." and borrow the 'Color Picker' from LibreOffice Draw.
          (Side Comment: still don't know why "Color Picker" isn't universally default with last used colors below in LibreOffice)

Tracking 32 colors for me is well into the "I'm getting lost" realm in a layout. I respectfully ask Kracked_P_P for input on this.

I think this might keep down the amount of load time involved.

The question of weather remembered "Last Colors Used" is universal or document only is interesting?
  Also, how it should be organized, by creation sequence or hue or saturation?

Is a good idea?

I am working with a table that takes a color and then starts listing lighter shades of that color till it is a very light shade that my wife would have called off-white or nearly white shade of "such and such color".

see this image.
http://libreoffice-na.us/color-coder-tables.png
I have included these two "tables" to the color list.

As for the rest, well, there seems to be no real difference in the load time with the large color file or the smaller one. The "last color used" is needed for many purposes. I would like to see the color list for fonts and highlighted colors in Writer to be widened to more "columns" Also, maybe widen each color "cell" a bit more as well. But That is not up to me.

I hate "basic" color sets. It is like someone telling me I am limited to what they think I wand and need and not what I should use. LO has a color adding system, one at a time, at the end of the current list, but I like to see the colors in the list where I would like to put them.

thanks for the clarification.

som