Has it all, except... Project Manager.

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#1

I think LibreOffice is really great, it´s almost a complete alternative to
similar products as M$Office. But to achieve complete replacement I
strongely believe there´s only one thing missing: A integrated project
manager.

I´ve searched for a lot of replacements, planner, kplato, etc... But it
seems to me that the best foundation comes from TaskJuggler.

TaskJuggler itself is more of a engine than a WYSIWYG. If the developer guys
could take it and transform it into a Project Manager module of LibreOffice,
increase of adoption would rise up to the skies.

tkx.

#2

Hi Fernando,

How about OpenProject? It's free, although I'm not too sure about the
integration you want. I think not.

The features and interface are said to be similar to MS Project and
may be a free interim solution until LibreOffice has the resources and
time to produce a Project Planner.

Have you tried OP and, if so, did you find any problems? I've only just begun
to experiment with it and haven't worked with MS Project, so I may be
misguided in my recommendation.

#3

I think LibreOffice is really great, it´s almost a complete alternative to
similar products as M$Office. But to achieve complete replacement I
strongely believe there´s only one thing missing: A integrated project
manager.

Hi Fernando,

How about OpenProject? It's free, although I'm not too sure about the
integration you want. I think not.

The features and interface are said to be similar to MS Project and
may be a free interim solution until LibreOffice has the resources and
time to produce a Project Planner.

Have you tried OP and, if so, did you find any problems? I've only just
begun
to experiment with it and haven't worked with MS Project, so I may be
misguided in my recommendation.

Unfortunatly, OP is veeery buggy, I´ve tried it. And its interface is

hardcoded with its core, so I think it would be even more troublesome than
bringing TJ to LibreOffice. TJ is basically a script parser, with a well
defined OO language(tasks, resources, accounts...), so I believe its easier
to build a interface upon that.

cheers.

#4

Thats another way of telling people to use KDE. Taskjugger pulls in KDE packages which colours other DEs. I think LO uses GTK ... what is wrong with Planner?

#5

Thats another way of telling people to use KDE. Taskjugger pulls in KDE
packages which colours other DEs. I think LO uses GTK ... what is wrong
with Planner?

I didn´t quite get the thing of telling people to use KDE. Aside that, I
don´t know what LO is build upon, that´s why greping the core of TJ would
make building module for LO easier. Whatever KDE or Gnome or Unity, if LO
comes with a project manager, to me is a plus.

Nothing wrong with planner, I think it does what is meant to do, it´s easy
and that´s good, only thing is that planner misses some features to higher
requests, eg: Accounts, use of third parties contracts with fixed rate,
like, I hire a gardner, he tells me he will charge U$300,00 and will do the
work in 2 weeks, now try putting that on planner.

#6

Your post might be better on the discuss list. That said, why do you
seem to think that LO needs a 'Project Manager' module?

While I think the:
http://www.libreoffice.org/
<quote>
LibreOffice is the free power-packed Open Source personal productivity
suite...
</quote>
is too broad reaching, I don't really think that 'Project Manger' fits
the bill as a requirement, or even 'Wish list' module.

Microsoft Project Standard 2010
is a $600 package.
Microsoft Project Professional 2010
is a $1,000 package
http://www.microsoft.com/project/en/us/try-buy.aspx

Notice that http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/professional/
$499
does not include 'Project Manager'.

So again, why do you seem to think that LO needs a 'Project Manager'
module? Just fork out the $$ for Microsoft Project & off you go.

#7

+1

#8

Because I think that would burst up LO adoption.

#9

It doesn't replace MS, unless your CIO tells you it does.

#10

In news:ilmefm$5rj$1@dough.gmane.org,
NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net> typed:

...

::
:: Your post might be better on the discuss list. That said,
:: why do you seem to think that LO needs a 'Project Manager'
:: module?
::

...

I agree that Project Manager as it exists from Microsoft isn't really
something I'd want to see in Libre OR OO.o. t's a huge package and would be
a big step backward in some ways to make it part of the Suite for the few
people who would use it.

There are many alternatives avaiable, both free and pay-for that will do a
great job of project management, depending on what yhou want to get out of
it. Depending on what you need, Excel or Calc would even be usable for
project management; I've seen a few decent templates around for them.
Besides, I'm never found the MS Project Manager to be that good or that
userfriendly anyway. I live with it because it's the status quo and
"Microsoft" is a magic name to management here. That might be reasonable
too, considering the many levels of project management that existed here,
but that's another folly for another place.

Now, were TDF to take on creating a Project Manager, that might be OK. But
it looks like a lot of work that a lot of people wouldn't use rght away for
a lot of reasons.

HTH,

Twayne`

#11

Hey Fernando.. I also think the intregration would not be as much useful for
others as it would be for you.... not paying the price for it´s design...

What about DotProject <http://www.dotproject.net/>?

Helmar Fernandes

#12

Ok, I give up... Maybe a Project Manager is too much to put togheter with
LO. Maybe is easier to put third party contracts into gnome planner?

#13

Hi all,

I'm a project manager with prince2 practitioner certification and I use
gnome planner and a good program it is. Especially when connected to a
centralised database.

Try it, you'll like it.

However an office suit should be just that and while it would be possible
for many open source communities to integrate and share connectivity and
inter-communicate I don't think we should be trying to put more into an
office suit than the general office components.

Interconnectivity and interoperability between open source projects would
help push MS into the past where they belong. However overloading one
application just to put more in it I don't think would serve any good
purpose.
Remember one of the things we all like about open source is the vast amount
of options we get.
Personally I use Libre Office, gnome planner, evolution, firefox, gimp and
for development I use .net studio on windows and mono on linux. I love the
choices available

Bruce Carlson
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#14

+1, I can't agree more...

For project management I use...
- taskcoach: http://taskcoach.org/
- gnome time tracker: http://gnotime.sourceforge.net/
- gnome planner: http://live.gnome.org/Planner
- libreoffice calc: home-made spreadsheet

if I wanted gantt charts and other such things, there are
- taskjuggler: http://www.taskjuggler.org/
- openproj: http://openproj.org/

All in all there are quite a few alternatives around, even if you still use Windows as your operating system.

As Bruce said, none need to be bundled with libreoffice per sae.

#15

Hi
I championed OO/LO and got a strong response that claimed
it was "veery buggy." (the double "e" is from a quote).
I don't know...

#16

I have been using OO/LO for several years now in production and I have found it to be no more buggy than the various Windows Office alternatives.

The only time I have come to grief is when trying to share data between users not using OO/LO, otherwise I have been able to make extremely complex spreadsheets and reports that none of my clients are aware were made using LO/OO.

Note, I serve out all my products as PDF documents, or supply my users with files in older formats (e.g. Office 2000 documents).