having 2525 defined colors to choose from within LO

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#1

For those who have been looking at my "color postings", I have been adding colors to the "standard.soc" file so there are many more defined colors to choose from withing Writer, Calc, etc., for things like font color and shading, or cell backgrounds.

I took the original file and added the LO branding colors, and decided to go from there.
With the help from a fellow user, added some colors to that list from some I had and some he had.
I added gray and 99 different shades of it - i.e. 1% to 99%.
At that point, I still wanted more.
I found colors like Gold, Silver, Bronze, Brass, etc. and added them in.

Then I added the colors from a set of color tables where they took one color and kept lightening it up 6 times, for a total of 7 color blocks. There were 7 colors per table making each one 77 colors. This added 462 colors to the color blocks you see.

So now, I have 2525 color blocks, if my count is correct.

For Ubuntu users, you have to look into the hidden dot folders to find the "standard.soc" file.
".config/libreoffice/4/user/config"
where it is on other systems, I do not know. I have not added it to my Windows systems, yet, but will find the file later.

So here is the download file link. It should work fine, but I am still new at using the "ownCloud" system.

https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/QA/New-Colors/standard.soc--jan-19--10_26am---2525-color-blocks.txt

#2

Total colors in that file : 2525
Total unique colors in that file: 2366

The following colors are named more than two times:
(color #0000 is found 6 times,
color #000080 is found 4 times, etc)
       # color
       6 000000
       4 000080
       3 0066cc
       3 008080
       3 00cccc
       3 333333
       3 666666
       4 800080
       3 808000
       3 999999
       3 b3b3b3
       3 c0c0c0
       3 cccccc
       3 ff0000
       3 ff00ff
       3 ff4500
       4 ff9966
       5 ffff66
       3 ffffff

#3

Hi :slight_smile:
Good bit of proof-reading there! I can't believe how quickly this has
come together. For years i have been wondering why the colour
selection was so pitiful. I've been using quite a long work-around or
just putting up with it.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#4

Printed it out

Will update it soon.

As I stated before, there may be duplicates.
I took several lists and converted them outside the main file and then added them.

Sometimes certain colors in a color sequence should be kept, even if it is a repeat. But I will look at each case.

#5

For example, apropos an earlier discussion on this list, see http://www.numbertext.org/logo/librelogo.pdf p52 "Color names." In 25 basic colours three duplicates: aqua+cyan, fuchsia+magenta and gray+grey.

Peter West

"Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick..."

#6

Okay, I downloaded the file to my HD. It is a .txt file.

I used locate to find the standard.soc file on my machine. It is in
.xml format.

I moved the original standard.soc file to standard.soc.old.

I copied the standard.soc--jan-19--10_26am---2525-color-blocks.txt to
the same location and renamed it standard.soc. It's in html file.

I guess I should get to the question now.

What am I supposed to do with that file?

#7

1. First find where standard.soc is. [openSUSE 13.1 it is /home/user
    name/.config/libreoffice/4-suse/
2. Rename standard.soc or backup some.
3. rename the new file (downloaded link mentioned) and then move it
    into the folder where you found the original version.
4. Check permissions
CODE

#8

Nice!

For the record, in Ubuntu 12.04 the standard.soc file is located under:

~/.config/libreoffice/3/user/config

HTH

#9

Hi,

You have just made my day - many thanks for all this work !!

Alex

#10

The new one should be renamed to "standard.soc".
Then restart LO.

The .xml and .html files are actually text files, but they have "controlling tags" withing them to make them usable as .html and .xml files to other packages. This is the same with many program coded files.

The .soc file had the extension of ".soc" but reads as a text file in text editors.

#11

I am working out the "bug" in color issues.

I have been given feed back about color duplicates and colors not working correctly. I have printed these out and will work on the information in them.

I did not go through all of the 2525 color lines, and many of those lines were given to me, as is, like the Crayola colors.

Some duplicates may be in color sequences, so they need to stay. Some are not and can be removed. Some non-working colors will be fixed or removed [as the case with the colors I was given]. Some of the colors only have a hex code for their names, since those colors are a sequence of color shading and did not have names assigned to them. I feel that just calling them things like "red hue 15 shading 3" would not be any good, since it would be a made up name. Yes, all of the names have been made up, but I will not create names for these colors, like "rosemary pink" or "coral sea foam green". How paint companies come up with these color names is a mystery to me.

Of course, some say there are too many colors to choose from. Some would like more colors. I was thinking about looking into more colors and their shading towards white. The red hues need to be found and the shadings. Maybe some of the named colors could be placed in hue order instead of alphabetical order.

#12

Some colors may have different names, depending on language and geographic regions. Some colors have different spellings, depending on the language used.

Also, the real problem is that some color names are defined differently by regions or who you get the color list from. I have seen Aqua a little darker than Cyan, cyan being one of the primary printer ink colors and the name of aqua is not. So they are not interchangeable in some applications and my need different "acceptable" names for different applications.

I have seen Gray spelled both ways, but gray is what I use since my American English spell checking in Thunderbird tells me "grey" is misspelled. Other languages may use "grey" instead of the other spelling.

#13

krackedpress wrote

I did not go through all of the 2525 color lines, and many of those
lines were given to me, as is, like the Crayola colors.

Some duplicates may be in color sequences, so they need to stay. Some
are not and can be removed. Some non-working colors will be fixed or
removed [as the case with the colors I was given]. Some of the colors
only have a hex code for their names, since those colors are a sequence
of color shading and did not have names assigned to them. I feel that
just calling them things like "red hue 15 shading 3" would not be any
good, since it would be a made up name. Yes, all of the names have been
made up, but I will not create names for these colors, like "rosemary
pink" or "coral sea foam green". How paint companies come up with these
color names is a mystery to me.

Of course, some say there are too many colors to choose from. Some would
like more colors. I was thinking about looking into more colors and
their shading towards white. The red hues need to be found and the
shadings. Maybe some of the named colors could be placed in hue order
instead of alphabetical order.

There are several things that bother me about a single large Franken-palette
of this nature.

- Swatches are generally not in visual (gamut) order, which they need to be
for ease-of-use.
- They are rarely designed for the current 8-column (v3.x - v4.1) or
upcoming 12-column (v4.2+) colour picker in LO.
- Combining several palettes into a single file defeats the entire point of
a palette, which is to /restrict/ the number of available swatches.
- This particular example includes proprietary (Pantone) details, which is
especially of concern. The matter of including Pantone palettes in other
free / open products such as Scribus, GIMP, and Inkscape, is a long running
and ultimately pointless initiative.

In honesty, we as a community should be aiming to create our own libre
palettes, with an arrangement of hues and tones that are suitable for the
colour picker. There are a few attempts by others available on the net, but
I will see what I can come up with. The problem of naming hues and tones is
always a serious challenge. I tend to prefer CMYK, RGB, HSL, or similar
types of codes over generic names, such as "Antique White 1", although I can
understand the desire for this type of subjective naming.
Kind regards, Owen.