[HOW] impagination like a BOOK?

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#1

hello

i need other help:

i'm hard to explain here words but i show you link:
http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/248-ubuntu-imposition-print-book

there is feature for libreoffice? if YES then how do for libreoffice?

#2

I'm hard to explain here words but i show you link: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/248-ubuntu-imposition-print-book there is feature for libreoffice?

Yes: LibreOffice does this very efficiently. It's weird that this web page suggests an exceedingly complicated way of doing what LibreOffice does natively!

if YES then how do for libreoffice?

That's exactly the "brochure" facility that I described in response to your previous enquiry.

To print an A5 booklet on (folded) A4 paper:
o Set your page format in LibreOffice Writer to A5 and Portrait - so it is the actual format that you want in the finished document.
o Set your printer's settings to A4 and Landscape - as the printing will actually be.
o Either:
Tick Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Print | Pages | Brochure
Or (on the fly):
In the Print dialogue, tick Options... | Pages | Brochure.

As before, if possible install a (freeware?) virtual PDF printer, so that you can experiment with the technique without wasting paper.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

#3

I have not looked into that in a few years.

There was talk about an extension for OOo and LO that would do this.

Then there was some talk about some Windows printer drivers that had
this option as part of the printer's package.

Just to be clear, to help us figure out what is needed. . . . .

First - how many pages are you planning on printing in this
"impositionor book" format?

Second - Do you want to use tabloid size paper [11 x 17] and print the
pages as letter size [8.5 x 11], or the equivalent for double A4 size
paper to A4 pages.

Or are you going to use letter or other smaller size sheets to make
smaller size "booklets". There are some references to "booklet" and
other names for multi-sheet "bound documents" in some of my Ubuntu 12.04
printer drivers.

I will have to check my Windows systems to see if one of the printers,
maybe the large format one, has the booklet option available to use.
That should print out the pages in some type of order that may be what
you want.

#4

Brian
The free virtual printers I have used are the following. . .

CUPS-PDF for Linux [Ubuntu 10.04 - 12.04]
doPDF for Windows [XP - Win7]

They seem to be the best ones I have tried.

So as for the "brochure" setting, it will print out the pages in the
proper order over the, say, 20+ pages of a "booklet"?

I do not have duplexing on my wide format printer, so I would have to do
this "the hard way" for Tabloid or A5 paper to get Letter or A4 pages.
How "easy" is it to do the "process" using a "manual" feed paper option?

#5

I'm hard to explain here words but i show you link: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/248-ubuntu-imposition-print-book there is feature for libreoffice?

That's exactly the "brochure" facility that I described in response to your previous enquiry.

So as for the "brochure" setting, it will print out the pages in the proper order over the, say, 20+ pages of a "booklet"?

Of course. Didn't you try it?

I do not have duplexing on my wide format printer, so I would have to do this "the hard way" for Tabloid or A5 paper to get Letter or A4 pages. How easy is it to do the process using a manual feed paper option?

Probably depends on the precise details of the printer and driver and platform - er, and user?! But it should be very easy to test. If you are printing on Letter paper, why are you thinking "wide format"?

My Canon MG6200 printer does duplexing very well, but it is an A4 or Letter size printer.

If (as is often the case - and as was described at the web site referred to) you want an A5 or half Letter brochure, that's exactly what you'd need. Providing you set the printer orientation to Landscape, you should be able to feed the paper whichever way it normally goes.

Brian Barker

#6

To be honest, I have not needed to make a booklet lately, maybe for 2
years. I have tried the printing of Tabloid [double Letter] in
Landscape with the pages in Letter/Portrait. But I have not tried the
booklet. The last work I did was a 4 Letter page [one Tabloid sheet]
document that I had to manually "duplex". Needed only about a dozen
copies. I also used "print page" option to print out the proper page
order on the sheet, like I always did with PageMaker 7.

But it is good to know that if I needed to do 2 or more sheets of
Tabloid paper, it will be easily done.

One reason I did not test it on my tabloid paper, was the price of the
paper itself. It is hard to find it locally, so I usually have to order
it online. I can never find the 13x19 inch paper, so it is also an
online purchase. Shipping costs or paper can be expensive, when I
cannot get a deal on shipping from the paper [or office supply] site. I
just received my first batch of "pastel" colored paper in Tabloid size,
so I could use that paper instead of Letter size paper with a staple or
two. I also have a stock of photo paper in all sized from 4x6 to 13x19
inches, except 5x7 inch. I do some photo/poster printing for people.

#7

Oh, indeed - and that's why I earlier suggested trials using a virtual PDF printer: you can see how the results work without expending any paper.

Brian Barker

#8

hello

my document is libreoffice DRAW, this can does "brochure"? my size A4 to brochure (from tools or from print dialogue) right?

i'm curiosity what is freeware virtual pdf printer? my distro OPENSUSE 12.3 with KDE 4.10, let me know as soon because today i need to print ufficial but before i need try to virtual pdf ok?

#9

my document is libreoffice DRAW, this can does "brochure"?

Apparently yes!

my size A4 to brochure (from tools or from print dialogue) right?

Are you speaking of your earlier need to print A4 pages as a brochure on A3 paper?
o Keep the page format in Draw as A4 and Portrait.
o Go to File | Printer Settings... .
o In Properties..., select A3 and Landscape.
o In Options... | Page options, select Brochure.

I'm curiosity what is freeware virtual pdf printer?

It's a program which, when installed, appears in your list of printers. But there is no physical printer. Instead, when you use the virtual printer - through the print dialogue in the usual way - the program creates a PDF document representing what would have been printed. The advantage here is that you can test the Brochure facility without wasting paper.

my distro OPENSUSE 12.3 with KDE 4.10, ...

I can't speak for this platform. Try doing a search for PDF virtual printer. Does this earlier message in this thread help: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg33362.html ?

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

#10

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#11

Go to your Package Manager and search for CUPS-PDF. That is what I use
for Ubuntu. You should have somethings like that for your system.

If you do not find it, then search for PDF and see if one of the items
is a PDF printer.

#12

Hi.
The standard KDE printer dialogue allows you to print to PDF as standard. It is the top selection above your printers.
My LO print dialogue is different, but on the last tab has print to file, if PDF is set in device options then it is as PDF, I need to have a printer configured though that gives an A3 paper option.
Steve

#13

Hi.
I think cups-pdf does what ps2pdf does, may be a few more options.
Steve

#14

CUPS-PDF is my default printer.
It has all of the needed options to create a PDF file that other
programs would want/ LO has the export to PDF options, but I tend to
use CUPS-PDF for printing web pages and then physically printing only
the sheets that I want. You can also decide what the file resolution
was to be, including 600 and 1200 DPI and the image quality/compression
that goes into the file.

doPDF is similar, but is for Windows.

There are some big advantages to having a PDF printer installed, even
with LO's export to PDF. I use both equally when I need a PDF file from
a LO document.

As for ps2pdf - I thought you needed a .ps file to start with. Could be
wring, but that was what I was told years ago.

#15

Hi :slight_smile:
I thought the whole point of tabloid paper was that it was the cheapest
around and thus the publishers could print more runs more often and even charge less but still make a decent profit.  Surely the famous
"stack'em high, sell'em cheap" comes from the ability of tabloids to
undercut the more serious newspapers.  Everything else is better
quality, even toilet paper (actually my granny could sometimes make the
sunday papers last all week this way).  The sheets were so porous that
they were also a firm favourite for wrapping fish&chips in for the
walk back from the chippie (preferably not the same bit of paper as was
used for the other use).  Then that was banned because the print was smudge off the page and while that added to the flavour (again the 2nd use rather than the 1st) is was discovered to be a little bit toxic.  So i thought we were trying to put the tabloid paper behind us and upgrade.

It's interesting to hear that tabloid paper is now considered more official and desirable for printing news! 
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: