how to use japanese ore other language fonts

[Haruka_Akiko]

Dear all,
I've a problem about writing in japanese language with libreoffice ( formely I've had the same problem with openoffice and I' wasn't able to get rid of it).
I'm on Ubuntu 10.4 and Kubuntu 10.4
Usually, when I need to write using japanese scripture I use Ibus with apropiate setting (only on Gnome). This works fine for the web browser and other applications but it doesn't work with libreoffice.
I've tried to set japanese as default language for the "currente document" but it doesn't work.
Maybe I have to istall a thesaurus or a vocabulary but I wasn't able to find what install and how make it work.

I don't need to change the whole interface using a language pack, for example, because I'm still learnig this language and I'd hardly understand a whole japanese LibreOffice interface.
Excuse me if the question don't seem clear, maybe someone of you use japanese and can help me?

apologize my errors

Akiko

[Andy_Brown]

Haruka Akiko wrote:

Dear all,
I've a problem about writing in japanese language with libreoffice (
formely I've had the same problem with openoffice and I' wasn't able to
get rid of it).
I'm on Ubuntu 10.4 and Kubuntu 10.4
Usually, when I need to write using japanese scripture I use Ibus with
apropiate setting (only on Gnome). This works fine for the web browser
and other applications but it doesn't work with libreoffice.
I've tried to set japanese as default language for the "currente
document" but it doesn't work.
Maybe I have to istall a thesaurus or a vocabulary but I wasn't able to
find what install and how make it work.

I don't need to change the whole interface using a language pack, for
example, because I'm still learnig this language and I'd hardly
understand a whole japanese LibreOffice interface.
Excuse me if the question don't seem clear, maybe someone of you use
japanese and can help me?

apologize my errors

Akiko

First do you have the "Enabled for Asian languages" and "Enabled for complex text layout (CTL)" boxes checked under Tools> Options> Language

Languages?

On the same dialogue do you have, under "Default language for documents", a setting for Asian?

Andy

[Tom_Davies]

Hi

I think you are saying that you don't want to change the UI to Japanese and also
want to keep the global settings for the operating system (Ubuntu) as
non-Japanese.

All you want is to get the dictionaries and thesaurus in LibreOffice to
correctly spell-check documents written in Japanese (or as they are being
written).

What i don't understand is why it is not already working! It 'should' be
working just fine! Presumably you have already tried

Tools - Options - "+ Language" - Languages - "Enhanced language support"
and ticked the "Enabled for Asian languages" tick-box? Then that should have
allowed you to change the section above
Tools - Options - "+ Language" - Languages - "Default languages for documents" -
Asian - Japanese

At least i think that is how it works?? Sorry i don't really know so please let
us know how this goes especially if you haven't already tried it.
Apols and regards from
Tom

[Haruka_Akiko]

Thanks for answer
I've just checked.
I've enabled both boxes "enabled for Asian languages" and "enabled for CTL".
I also have a "Default language for documents" dialog for Asian in wich I set "japanese".
So it seems that this step is ok
If I try to select a japanese font on the dropdown font menu and write a japanese word, say "yume", it just appear wrote in latin instead of kanji or kana.
So there must be something that doesn't work, yet

Akiko

[Haruka_Akiko]

Hi

I think you are saying that you don't want to change the UI to Japanese and also
want to keep the global settings for the operating system (Ubuntu) as
non-Japanese.

All you want is to get the dictionaries and thesaurus in LibreOffice to
correctly spell-check documents written in Japanese (or as they are being
written).

Thanks Tom, this exactly what I meant. I'd like that my Operating System/LibreOffice UI remain in Italian or in English, but I need dictionaries and a way to write in japanese kanji/kana for my traning in this language e for write documents for japanese speaker

What i don't understand is why it is not already working! It 'should' be
working just fine! Presumably you have already tried

Tools - Options - "+ Language" - Languages - "Enhanced language support"
and ticked the "Enabled for Asian languages" tick-box? Then that should have
allowed you to change the section above
Tools - Options - "+ Language" - Languages - "Default languages for documents" -
Asian - Japanese

I've already tried but it seems it doesn't work. I'm wondering if I didn't install everything what is needed. Maybe something lacks, now I'm searching in the extension list.

At least i think that is how it works?? Sorry i don't really know so please let
us know how this goes especially if you haven't already tried it.
Apols and regards from
Tom

Thanks and regards
Akiko

[Rewarp]

こんにちは、あきこさん。

You do have a weird problem. I have had no problems inputting Japanese into
OpenOffice (and now LibreOffice). I am also using Lucid Lynx. Does copy and
paste work correctly for Japanese?

Other than that, what input method are you using for Japanese? I tried Anthy
(m17n) and reverted back to Anthy as the former was buggy.

P.S. In fact, my default Asian Language is Chinese (Simplified).

[James_Wilde]

こんにちは、あきこさん。

You do have a weird problem. I have had no problems inputting Japanese into
OpenOffice (and now LibreOffice). I am also using Lucid Lynx. Does copy and
paste work correctly for Japanese?

Other than that, what input method are you using for Japanese? I tried Anthy
(m17n) and reverted back to Anthy as the former was buggy.

I agree with Rewarp, this is where I had the most problems, finding an input method that worked in Ubuntu. There are reports that Ibus is buggy, and recommendations to use alternatives (can't remember the name now). I tried these and found them equally buggy. Then suddenly I started Ubuntu one day and Ibus worked just like the system on my Mac. I believe the change was after I had done the latest upgrade, and I am now using kernel 2.6.32.30, on Ubuntu 10.4. Unfortunately (for testing) I'm not often in Ubuntu now, since everything works so well on the various Macs.

(Just fired up Ubuntu and tested - still works fine. I'm using Chinese py(m17n) input method.)

P.S. In fact, my default Asian Language is Chinese (Simplified).

PS My default Asian language is also Chinese (Simplified)

[Tom_Davies]

Hi

Would it be possible to set up a new user account and have that account set to
simplified Chinese? Or install Ubuntu inside a virtual machine such as
VirtualBox so that you can easily compare menus against your Italian menus?

System - Administration - "Users and Groups"

Regards from
Tom

[Haruka_Akiko]

Thank you Rewarp and ,excuse the delay of the answer but I have to make
some testing before.
I use ibus + anthy when I want to write something in japanese using ,
for example my browser or other applications. I also use jwpce 1.50 (tha
is an application not a input method and basically I use it as a
dictionary but I can also write and copy and past the text in other
files). If I write something in jpwce or with anthy and Copy and Paste
it in libreoffice ,everithing works fine. On the other side if I try to
write directly in libreoffice using Anthy, the anthy bar disappear and
I'cant write a single kana.
More, In KDE Anthy doesn't work in anyway while In Gnome anthy work
quite fine (except when ibus itself crashes).
I dont' know if setting " default Asian Language is Chinese (Simplified)
" can make the difference....

regards

AKiko

[Haruka_Akiko]

Thanks James
well Ibus and Anthy work fine when Ibus starts...sometimes it seems to
don't want start or to have loose its configurations and I have to
re-configure it to make it use Anthy.
Definitively I'll try Chinese simplified as default language:) but if it
will work I'll really don't know why..

thanks and regards

Akiko

[Haruka_Akiko]

Hi
I've tried to create a new account but it inherited all the programs and all the settings of the default user. So "he" has also an italian version of libreoffice
After work I 'll try to install libreoffice without italian languepack in another machine
for now thanks for you aid

regards

Akiko

[Tom_Davies]

Hi

If you have a spare 15Gb on your hard-drive then you could always install a
dual/multi-boot of Ubuntu. The existing Swap would be used by both but i would
do anything fancy like sharing /home partitions.

The new boot-loader would pick-up your previous install but i would make sure to
boot into your stable Ubuntu rather than this new testing one and then do this
on the command-line

sudo update-grub

This would make sure that your old, stable boot-loader got used booting you
straight into your preffered options rather than using the new boot-loader which
will get wiped when you have finished testing and delete the test partition.

Hopefully this makes sense! Please feel free to say "wtf??" lol
Good luck and regards from
Tom

[Rewarp]

Hi Akiko.

I use ibus + anthy when I want to write something in japanese using ,

for example my browser or other applications. I also use jwpce 1.50 (tha
is an application not a input method and basically I use it as a
dictionary but I can also write and copy and past the text in other
files). If I write something in jpwce or with anthy and Copy and Paste
it in libreoffice ,everithing works fine. On the other side if I try to
write directly in libreoffice using Anthy, the anthy bar disappear and
I'cant write a single kana.

I don't think it is an issue of default Asian languages in LibreOffice,

since you can input words with copy and paste.

This means it is likely an issue with ibus settings. Can you try installing
some other language like Chinese or Korean and try typing with those in
LibreOffice?

Also, do you use key bindings? Mine invokes ibus with Ctrl-Space.

P.S.* *I use Kiten as my dictionary.

[Haruka_Akiko]

Hi Rewarp and all the people that gently tried to help me,

an huge update of the whole system ( ubuntu lucid linx) seems to have
solved a great part of my problem.
Now I'm able to write in libreoffice using ibus and anki for input and
jiilt (an addon) as inside dictionary.
It isn't as smooth as it could be but it's a great headway, anyway.
I can't use libroffice japanese font yet,but this way is far better than
before.

About Kiten: it's very usefull but I 'd like, if possible, to use
application that are "windows manager indipendent" because my "old"
desktop pc has some problem keeping Kde function properly.

Thanks to all

Akiko