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Do you know what moderation means?
moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes, especially in
one's behavior or political opinions"
Anne-ology,
You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However, when we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list moderation. When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator, not to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has a specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but is much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me restate it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which means:
- finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to the mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list (NOT REPLYING TO THEM FIRST)
- rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam.
Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always) involves:
- adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their owner
- helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical issues directly related to their mailing list subscription
- reminding everyone to be courteous
- following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and reminding mailing list subscribers to comply with it.
Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more the broader meaning of "moderation".
In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of technical management. It also implies that you know how to post properly and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From my perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that you perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions which would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is no need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date, time, etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of the thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new thread "Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated with the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this for each one of your reply.
Below is one page belonging to another community that may be helpful to you:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Hope this helps,
Charles
(who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette).
Charles, one can only admire your patience, but isn't it time to put a
stop to this nonsense with anne-ology (who I'm sure is not the
delightful Maureen, despite her use of the "-ology" suffix).
Who has the authority to remove her from the moderator role, for which
she seems singularly un-qualified?
Euh, I think this thread should be cut and closed. It is becoming more
and more a senseless discussion on the good or not so good ways of
moderating a mailing list and as well, and this is what I find
particularly disturbing, an Anne-ology bashing session.
Thank you.
RG.
> Charles, one can only admire your patience, but isn't it time to put
a
stop to this nonsense with anne-ology (who I'm sure is not the
delightful Maureen, despite her use of the "-ology" suffix).> Who has the authority to remove her from the moderator role, for
which
she seems singularly un-qualified?
> Anne-ology,
>
> > > You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However,
when
> > > we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list
moderation.
> > > When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator,
not
> > > to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has
a
> > > specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but
is
> > > much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me
restate
> it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the
> > > mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which
means:
> > > - finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to
the
> > > mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list
(NOT
> REPLYING TO THEM FIRST)
> - rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam.
>
> > > Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always)
involves:
> > > - adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their
owner
> - helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical
> issues directly related to their mailing list subscription
> - reminding everyone to be courteous
> > > > > - following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and
reminding
> mailing list subscribers to comply with it.
>
> > > Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more
the
> broader meaning of "moderation".
>
> In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of
> > > technical management. It also implies that you know how to post
properly
> > > and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From
my
> > > perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that
you
> > > perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions
which
> > > would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is
no
> > > need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date,
time,
> > > etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of
the
> > > thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new
thread
> > > "Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated
with
> > > the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this
for
> each one of your reply.
>
> > > Below is one page belonging to another community that may be
helpful to
> you:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Charles
> (who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette).
>
>
>
> > Do you know what moderation means?
> >
> >
> > > > > moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes,
especially in
> > one's behavior or political opinions"
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > From: toki <toki.kantoor@gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...
> > To:
> > > > > > > > Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > It is not always possible to "do the right thing" so it is good
that
> >
> > > > > The correct thing is to _approve_ the message, not _respond_
within the
+1
Gordon.
Hi 
+1
Regards from
Tom