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Hello,
I would like to install the optional component "windows explorer extension"
on a "Windows 2008" file server because I need to index open document
format files saved on this server. I don't need the whole LibreOffice suite
only this component. It's not possible with the installer to select only
the "windows explorer extension" but maybe there is a way to install this
filter manually ?
Thanks for your help.
Chris
Hi 
I am not sure if any of the links on this page are useful
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Corporate_Users
You might have more luck talking to the devs on their irc channel (whatever
that is) or their mailing list.
I think the usual quickest answer is to just install the whole program.
It's not large, unlike MS Office, and it's quite robust so you don't have
to keep patching it. In the last 3-4 years there have been about 3
security issues and 2 of those were only potential possibilities and the
other required the user to do a bunch of dumb things. New releases happen
in order to add functionality so most of us happily stick with older
versions.
Probably best to go with stable-branch and get the 4.1.6. That 3rd digit is
roughly equivalent to the "Service Packs" so the 6 means that branch has
really matured. If the 4.2x has reached 4 then that is pretty rock-solid
too in which case i'd grab that. Most of my machines are on 3.5.7 and i've
long since stopped worrying about exactly which version is where because
versions don't have all the incompatibilities and problems that spring up
between different versions of MS Office.
Hopefully something in there helps!
Regards from
Tom
Thanks Tom, I did install the whole program but this is not what you want
to do on a file server. Microsoft provide filter pack for open document
format but it doesn't work with recent version of odf files.
Regards,
Chris
Hi
Sometimes migrating to a new system means being a bit imperfect to start
with but then tighten-up down the road a bit.
Microsoft have a vested interest in making sure that ODF appears to be
problematic so that people are pushed into using their own formats.
However they are a bit stuck right now because everyone else who tries
seems to find it easy to implement ODF = it's only MS Office that has
trouble with it. On the other hand everyone else, and even MS themselves,
seem to have trouble trying to implement the MS OOXML formats.
Regards from
Tom
Thanks Tom, I did install the whole program but this is not what you want
to do on a file server. Microsoft provide filter pack for open document
format but it doesn't work with recent version of odf files.
These might (or might not) be of interest/use:
<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user/12266>
Subj: Windows Explorer Extension
<https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39887>
Subj: Regression: ODT files no longer display in Explorer preview
Note: you can experiment with parallel versions. No sure if that will
help, but at least you can experiment with more than one install at a
time (also works for AOo):
<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel#Windows>
I typically use the CLI for parallel installs, but just tried Florian's:
<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Server_Install_GUI>
<https://flosmind.wordpress.com/libreoffice-server-install-gui/>
and it works just fine (thanks Florian) - I just installed 4.2.3 in
parallel to 4.1.6.
"Chris Net46":
I would like to install the optional component "windows explorer extension"
on a "Windows 2008" file server because I need to index open document
format files saved on this server.
I believe you can perform administrative installation, then copy the oofilt[_x64].dll to your own location and register it with regsvr32.
Urmas,
I think your posts would be easier to follow if you more clearly distinguished between your words and those of another writer to whom you are responding. My FOSS Thunderbird does that nicely.
Virgil
Hi
I think the main point here is that it's an example of where Urmas is
really helpful and he/she deserves credit for that. I didn't understand it
as it is too technical and beyond my understanding but it looks like
something that might be a good answer. I avoid touching the Windows
registry but i'm guessing that Chris is able to assess the potential
problems there.
On a side-issue ...
The ones where Urmas does help are often highly technical. That raises the
question of whether Urmas is a dev and just socially clumsy as so many are.
Apparently Microsoft have recognised that many engineers and devs have
"high functioning" aspergers syndrome or, even further along the spectrum,
autism and that where both parents have such conditions their children are
much more likely to have the condition(s). So apparently MS health
insurance covers the cost of their employees getting their children tested
for just those sorts of condition(s). Mainstream society seems to consider
such conditions as "disabilities" but it seems that in some cases they can
actually be a benefit, as long as you can accept the social awkwardness and
social clumsiness that "comes with the turf". Going out into the wider IT
community many of us probably have OCD traits and other conditions but
often at such low levels that we might not notice it. Again a lot of this
might help with the work we do but probably doesn't help us be sociably
adept. So i think we have to accept interesting oddities in the way we and
the people around us behave in order to benefit from the thing we/they are
good at.
Another side-issue ...
My email client turned that 1st paragraph purple to distinguish it from the
1 line answer and from the greeting.
Regards from
Tom
[snip]
On a side-issue ...
The ones where Urmas does help are often highly technical. That
raises the question of whether Urmas is a dev and just socially
clumsy as so many are. Apparently Microsoft have recognised that
many engineers and devs have "high functioning" aspergers syndrome
or, even further along the spectrum, autism ...
[snip]
Asperger Syndrome (it's properly capitalized) is often referred-to
as "functional autism." In any event: Yes, in the IT world it is
quite common for technically talented people to exhibit impaired
social skills. It's usually not intentional. Such people are simply
wired in such a manner that social skills that are second nature to
"normal" people are, quite simply, incomprehensible to them. Good
examples of these are the TV show characters Dr. Gregory House, Dr.
Sheldon Cooper and Dr. Martin Ellingham ("Doc Martin"). These
characters are all portrayed as being brilliant in their fields, but
socially inept to the point of being widely regarded as rude and
unfeeling. (These characters portray behavioural extremes, but they
are, after all, actors, and it is, after all, entertainment.)
Such people can learn, to a degree, to work within commonly accepted
social norms, but they will never, ever understand the *need* to do
so, other than that failing to do so may have (potentially) adverse
consequences.
This is not to excuse behaviour clearly out-of-bounds, but more to
explain the reality that, in a venue such as this, you're going to
encounter such people. The only way to stop it entirely is to
encourage them to go away. Then what are you left with? Who will
answer your questions and solve your problems? The likes of
telephone sanitizers, hairstylists, advertising executives and
lawyers? 
Regards,
Jim
Yes, in the IT world it is
quite common for technically talented people to exhibit impaired
social skills.
Not really, in my experience. It's common for IT people to *claim* to
have Asperger Syndrome or some such, but it's not nearly as common as
people think. My experience may be limited, but that still leaves us
with..
> whether Urmas is a dev and just socially
> clumsy as so many are.
Most clearly not. His answers often are not just pro Microsoft or
commercial software, but often derogatory of Open Source, and often
outright wrong, not just in terms of beliefs that are known to be
incorrect, but in terms of quoting actual facts that are wrong.
Sometimes even quoted with references, showing that he went to some
trouble to construct his false arguments. Maybe not often, but I'm sure
I've seen it in the past. Which shows clearly that he is not just
socially inept, but actually trying to troll. Equally, some of the off
list messages that have recently been shown on this list are not just
lacking in social graces, they are quite clearly rude and obscene. So I
suggest...
The only way to stop it entirely is to
encourage them to go away.
That this would be a good idea. Despite the question of...
Then what are you left with? Who will
answer your questions and solve your problems?
Other people. I've only seen Urmas be usefull I think twice, and in
those cases I really don't know how useful his information actually
was. Potentially very, I suppose, but I don't feel the need to keep him
around just for that. But that's only my opinion, of course. Spreading
FUD is one thing, but being abusive and using obscene language I don't
really want to have to put up with. But that said, we're stuck with...
the reality that, in a venue such as this, you're going to
encounter such people.
Unfortunate but true. I once asked if we could ban Urmas, and was told
no, he'd just come back in a new guise. I'm still not sure how I feel
about this, but unfortunately it is quite likely true that even if we
did ban him, he would just sign up again under a new name. He seems
intent on trolling this list. And at least at the moment we all mostly
know who he is and know to just ignore his stuff.
As this is the internet, and therefor devoid (rightly so) of physical
involvement, there really is nothing we can do to *make* him stop,
not so long as the list is public. Best we could do would be to
moderate everything, and just not let his stuff past moderation, but
that takes effort on someone's part. I'm not willing to go to all that
trouble myself, so I'd rather just ignore him.
I'm not sure what Tom Cloyd is thinking of here, but he seems to have an
idea about how to proceed. Personally, I don't think it will work, but
I'd still be willing to hear it. And if one doesn't think one should be
trying to intimidate Urmas into leaving, what on earth makes one think
one should be intimidating Tom Cloyd into leaving? Name calling and
nastiness doesn't belong on this list, in my opinion. If people get
tedious, speak your mind, tell them politely what your opinion is,
preferably make a constructive suggestion, then leave it be. If you
can't change their mind, ignore them. This is a public list, you are
free to ignore whatever part of it you want.
Just my thoughts on a matter that has the potential to spiral out of
control. Feel free to disagree, but politely, please. Or to ignore it,
if you so wish.
Paul
I see these arguments in my emails, and peruse some, but generally once I
have the gist of things, I press delete! But it does not put me off, trying
to sell the idea of free, to my customers, and say there is lots of support
out there etc.
When I say sell the idea, I mean compare the the well known version, and
libre... Usually quoting "Spanish for freeeeeeeeeee" yes big emphasis on
freeeeeeeeee
I see the same on the other forums as we'll, ie gimp, Inkscape etc, and it
disheartens me that someone has to upset the applecart.
Recently I made an error, in not reading what was on my screen with libre,
but the support I got was great, and positive feedback for all involved
But I guess the with a price for freeeeee means that someone will try and
take advantage
Phil
Hi
Disagreements are fine imo. They lead to discussions and maybe even to
thinking in a new way or taking on new ideas. Often we just get entrenched
in old thought-patterns but at least the other people on the mailing list
can then assess the qualities of the ideas.
Clearly me and Tom disagree on some things but i already consider him yet
another person who was just a friend i just hadn't met yet. As i find so
many on this list are. I find myself agreeing with a lot of what Paul said
and i'm glad to hear Philip's points.
I don't think that intimidation is a good idea and hopefully it's
unfeasible anyway. I'd rather see people deal with it humorously or calmly
and maybe giving better links to counter the Fud. Ideally i would like to
be calm myself or be able to stop myself posting long angry rants.
Regards from
Tom
Hello,
Speaking as an "Aspie" myself, who helps fellow Aspies better work and live
with others (and vice versa), thank you very much for your effort to
understand.
If I may:
(1) You're right about its being Asperger Syndrome, named as it is after
Dr. Hans Asperger who discovered it. It's also known as Asperger's Syndrome
or Aspergers Syndrome. However, it does *not* contain the letter b, nor
does it refer to any body part or popular fast food. =|8-}
(2) "Functional autism" might be a phrase used by some laypeople to
describe it. If you want to get more technical, it's an autism spectrum
condition, along with High Functioning Autism, Semantic Pragmatic Disorder,
Nonverbal Learning Disorder and Pervasive Developmental Disorder-Not
Otherwise Specified (HFA, SPD, NLD/NVLD and PDD-NOS, respectively).
Now that we've gotten the terminology out of the way...
(3) You're right about Aspies not picking up on things that most others
(neurotypicals, or NTs for short) absorb instinctively. Just as you rightly
pointed out that social skills can be learned, so can the *need* to do so
-- and not just in terms of avoiding getting fired, losing relationships
and the like. Aspies have empathy just like any other
non-sociopath/psychopath, and we can learn, say, how telling someone you
don't like their food hurts their feelings even if we don't think it should.
(4) Finally, thank you for calling for understanding and accommodation.
Really, it goes both ways. We need to understand how NTs tick and how to
better get along with them, and then act appropriately (in both senses of
the term) as much as possible.
Cheers,
Jeff Deutsch
Speaker & Life Coach
A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs
http://www.asplint.com
"Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout."
Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst --
http://www.MarionSpeaks.com
The ones where Urmas does help are often highly technical. That
raises the question of whether Urmas is a dev and just socially
clumsy as so many are. Apparently Microsoft have recognised that many
engineers and devs have "high functioning" aspergers syndrome or,
even further along the spectrum, autism and that where both parents
have such conditions their children are much more likely to have the
condition(s). So apparently MS health insurance covers the cost of
their employees getting their children tested for just those sorts of
condition(s). Mainstream society seems to consider such conditions
as "disabilities" but it seems that in some cases they can actually
be a benefit, as long as you can accept the social awkwardness and
social clumsiness that "comes with the turf". Going out into the
wider IT community many of us probably have OCD traits and other
conditions but often at such low levels that we might not notice it.
Again a lot of this might help with the work we do but probably
doesn't help us be sociably adept. So i think we have to accept
interesting oddities in the way we and the people around us behave in
order to benefit from the thing we/they are good at.
<tongue in cheek>
You want to bitch about "social skills" of engineers?
I definitely don't want to and won't bitch about the "social skills",
much less the "technical skills" of braindead slimy weasels who don't
have a clue of elementary analytical-deductive logics and don't care to
get one, but still arrogate to "judge" as well as perpetrate their
pervert sadistic narcissistic imperiousness over those who happen to
have a higher IQ than a gully cover. Because anything I could say about
those apparent hominid lifeforms, no matter what words I use, would just
be a recklessly embellishing, dangerously softening euphemism.
FYI: *High intelligence* together with *honesty*, *sincerity*,
*authenticity* and *frank speech* aren't "disabilities" on the
*senders'* side. Anyone who's so cognitively challenged and pampered in
their psychotic self-delusion that they can't and don't want to take
facts the way they are better learn the "social skills" to deal with
physical reality and stop "shooting the messenger", i.e. those who
already have them. Because we others are pretty well fed up with
wasting our precious lifetime and brain bandwidth shielding you useless
heaps of biomass from the Darwin effect.
</tongue in cheek>
;->
Very sincerely,
Wolfgang
who keeps feeling like Nunez in the Country of the Blind when
"socially" interacting with the very vast majority of conspecifics