KeyID build

l10n
#1

Hi all,

If you need KeyID builds to help locate strings in the version, you can
find them here
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/
search for the qtz langpack and install it as a langpack.
Thanks to Cloph for their update.

Cheers
Sophie

#2

Hi Sophie, *,

[...]
If you need KeyID builds to help locate strings in the version, you can
find them here
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/
search for the qtz langpack and install it as a langpack.
Thanks to Cloph for their update.

Please note that translation wise there's no real difference compared
to beta1, as translations aren't updated between releases, so if you
have beta1 already, no need to install one of the daily builds.

ciao
Christian

#3

Hi Jesper,

How come the translations aren't updated between releases? Or does that
only apply to the KeyID builds?

In the normal builds, I think it would be nice to see the translation
progress being included in the alpha and beta builds so we translators can
test our translations. But maybe that is already happening; I am new here,
so bear with me!

We begin the translation at the beta stage and the string freeze is
happening at the RC stage.

Kind regards
Sophie

#4

Hi Jesper,

In the normal builds, I think it would be nice to see the translation
progress being included in the alpha and beta builds so we translators can
test our translations.

Of course in the normal builds the translations are updated, just
*between* those, they are not updated. So the daily builds provided by
the tinderbox don't have newer translation than the last build that is
available from the pre-release download page.

So for every build for which there is an announcement to the
mailinglist(s), there's updated translations. but for the daily builds
that are also available from dev-buids.libreoffice.org they don't
include update translations.

Sorry for not being clear about that.

So

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/
→ has updated translations that were extracted from pootle right
before the build was started

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/
→ those don't have any additional updates,

So the latest build you get from pre-releases (or from
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ where the builds are
provided shortly after being first made available on
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/ )
will have the most recent translations you can get without building a
version of LibreOffice yourself.

ciao
Christian

#5

Hi Jesper, *,

Oh, but now I am confused again… I thought alpha and beta releases were also
"pre-releases",

They are.

but I can see on
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/ that they seem not
to be?

That location just collects the builds as they are done before they
are distributed over the mirror network. In other words: that is the
"early-tester" URL where people can get the build before it is
officially made available via the main download pages on
www.libreoffice.org

Aren't daily builds just automatic daily (or nightly) builds?

The daily builds are automatically done. The pre-release ones not.

The text on http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ does not
remove my confusion. It mentions a beta version, which must mean that a beta
version is a pre-release.

Yes, Beta-version also is a pre-release. The difference is that beta
version is "LibreOfficeDev" version, i.e. it uses different
user-profile path and has different name, so you can install it next
to your stable version of LibreOffice.

release candidates (RC) are "LibreOffice" versions, i.e. they would
update your currently installed stable version of LibreOffice

And it says that I can get beta versions on the
"Pre-releases server" (http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/)
("Access the Pre-releases server and pick the version of your choice
there"),

Yeah, that's a badly written statement here. On the
dev-builds.libreoffice.org version there currently is 4.3.5 rc1
available, but it is not yet available via www.libreoffice.org (as it
needs to be copied to the mirrors first) - so for the duration of one
day or two, you can only get it from dev-builds.

but there are no either alpha or beta versions where the link
brings me. I even looked under several different platforms with no luck.

Yes, dev-builds.libreoffice.org is cleaned up afterwards, as builds on
the one hand take lots of disk-space, and on the other hand it makes
finding the most recent build to test much harder if there would be
multiple versions in the directories.

Sorry if I am overlooking something obvious!

well, you write text above fullquote, so that's for me always a bad
sign (as my experience shows people tend not to read what was written
too closely), so I repeat:

* dev-builds pre-releases section is temporary upload location.
   Builds are collected there before they are distributed to the mirrors
* after the builds are distributed to the mirrors, the builds are
available from www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases
* daily builds are automatically generated and don't have newer
translations than the pre-release builds

ciao
Christian