l10n of LibreOffice 3.3.1

timar · February 3, 2011, 7:35am

Dear Olivier,

2011.02.02. 11:32 keltezéssel, Olivier Hallot írta:

I want to help, and do more on the files handling and checks, but I
don't want to start from scratch and somehow I need help to extract the
existing translation from LibreOffice (pt-BR). OOO files are now
outdated for me.

I have the files of OOo 3.3 final. Does it helps?

I extracted pt-BR translations from the current source (including your
latest update to lo-build-pt-BR.po).

SDF: http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/libreoffice-3-3-pt-BR-2011-02-03.sdf.bz2
UI PO:
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/libreoffice-3-3-UI-pt-BR-2011-02-03.tar.bz2
Help PO:
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/libreoffice-3-3-help-pt-BR-2011-02-03.tar.bz2

PO files can be imported to Pootle, if you wish (Rimas will do, if you
ask him).

Best regards,
Andras

sophi · February 3, 2011, 2:58pm

Hi Andras, all,

Hi Localizers,

[...]
So first, I've chose to take care of my files, I'll work on the overall process after

2. Download SDF and/or pot files from here:
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/libreoffice-3-3-en-US-2011-02-01.pot.tar.bz2
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/libreoffice-3-3-en-US-2011-02-01.sdf.bz2
Update your localization as you wish. Ask for tips and tricks here.

so I've checked my old m83 OOofiles using pocompendium, then pomigrate, then pocount on the new files.
Here is what I get

TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 71873 ( 96%) 523148 ( 97%) 581661
fuzzy: 276 ( 0%) 1305 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 2097 ( 2%) 9456 ( 1%) n/a
Total: 74246 533909 581661

File count: 283
Does it sound reasonable?

Now to get a full set of .po files for LibO I need to merge the LibreOffice 3.3.x specific files that are on our Pootle repository, right?
Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

timar · February 3, 2011, 3:12pm

Hi Sophie,

so I've checked my old m83 OOofiles using pocompendium, then pomigrate, then
pocount on the new files.
Here is what I get

TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 71873 ( 96%) 523148 ( 97%) 581661
fuzzy: 276 ( 0%) 1305 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 2097 ( 2%) 9456 ( 1%) n/a
Total: 74246 533909 581661

File count: 283
Does it sound reasonable?

It does. You did not add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, did you?

Now to get a full set of .po files for LibO I need to merge the LibreOffice
3.3.x specific files that are on our Pootle repository, right?

Yes, you need to add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, before you
update the tree.

Best regards,
Andras

sophi · February 3, 2011, 3:41pm

Hi Andras,

Hi Sophie,

so I've checked my old m83 OOofiles using pocompendium, then pomigrate, then
pocount on the new files.
Here is what I get

TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 71873 ( 96%) 523148 ( 97%) 581661
fuzzy: 276 ( 0%) 1305 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 2097 ( 2%) 9456 ( 1%) n/a
Total: 74246 533909 581661

File count: 283
Does it sound reasonable?

It does. You did not add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, did you?

No, I don't.

Now to get a full set of .po files for LibO I need to merge the LibreOffice
3.3.x specific files that are on our Pootle repository, right?

Yes, you need to add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, before you
update the tree.

ah, great, I understand thanks a lot! /me back to play with the translate toolkit

Kind regards
Sophie

sophi · February 4, 2011, 11:06am

Hi all,

Hi Sophie,

so I've checked my old m83 OOofiles using pocompendium, then pomigrate, then
pocount on the new files.
Here is what I get

TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 71873 ( 96%) 523148 ( 97%) 581661
fuzzy: 276 ( 0%) 1305 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 2097 ( 2%) 9456 ( 1%) n/a
Total: 74246 533909 581661

File count: 283
Does it sound reasonable?

It does. You did not add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, did you?

Now to get a full set of .po files for LibO I need to merge the LibreOffice
3.3.x specific files that are on our Pootle repository, right?

Yes, you need to add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, before you
update the tree.

so I did:
pocompendium checked.po -d m84 lo-build-fr.po
where m84 is my old OOo po files directory
then
pomigrate -F -C checked.po libo33x-new pot

then I get a directory containing 533909 source words in 283 files which is different than the DA files in Pootle which contains 534013 source words.
I've no idea where I lose those words. However, if I check with Stuart files (en-GB) I get the same number of source words (the only difference is that I've a lot of untranslated strings). May be is it because of nlpsolver strings?
Am I doing something wrong or can I go on and translate the remaining strings of my migration?

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

Rimas_Kudelis · February 4, 2011, 11:23am

2011.02.04 13:06, Sophie Gautier rašė:

Hi all,

Hi Sophie,

so I've checked my old m83 OOofiles using pocompendium, then pomigrate, then
pocount on the new files.
Here is what I get

TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 71873 ( 96%) 523148 ( 97%) 581661
fuzzy: 276 ( 0%) 1305 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 2097 ( 2%) 9456 ( 1%) n/a
Total: 74246 533909 581661

File count: 283
Does it sound reasonable?

It does. You did not add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, did you?

Now to get a full set of .po files for LibO I need to merge the LibreOffice
3.3.x specific files that are on our Pootle repository, right?

Yes, you need to add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, before you
update the tree.

so I did:
pocompendium checked.po -d m84 lo-build-fr.po
where m84 is my old OOo po files directory
then
pomigrate -F -C checked.po libo33x-new pot

then I get a directory containing 533909 source words in 283 files which is different than the DA files in Pootle which contains 534013 source words.
I've no idea where I lose those words. However, if I check with Stuart files (en-GB) I get the same number of source words (the only difference is that I've a lot of untranslated strings). May be is it because of nlpsolver strings?
Am I doing something wrong or can I go on and translate the remaining strings of my migration?

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

How do you count the numbers in directories?

I tried doing that with pocount, but it outputs a separate line for each .po file, which is way too much lines to quickly compare...

Rimas

sophi · February 4, 2011, 11:27am

At the end, you'll get the total of strings and words, this is what I passed in my mail yesterday.

Kind regards
Sophie

Rimas_Kudelis · February 4, 2011, 11:56am

2011.02.04 13:26, Sophie Gautier rašė:

2011.02.04 13:06, Sophie Gautier rašė:

Hi all,

Hi Sophie,

so I've checked my old m83 OOofiles using pocompendium, then
pomigrate, then
pocount on the new files.
Here is what I get

TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 71873 ( 96%) 523148 ( 97%) 581661
fuzzy: 276 ( 0%) 1305 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 2097 ( 2%) 9456 ( 1%) n/a
Total: 74246 533909 581661

File count: 283
Does it sound reasonable?

It does. You did not add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, did you?

Now to get a full set of .po files for LibO I need to merge the
LibreOffice
3.3.x specific files that are on our Pootle repository, right?

Yes, you need to add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, before you
update the tree.

so I did:
pocompendium checked.po -d m84 lo-build-fr.po
where m84 is my old OOo po files directory
then
pomigrate -F -C checked.po libo33x-new pot

then I get a directory containing 533909 source words in 283 files
which is different than the DA files in Pootle which contains 534013
source words.
I've no idea where I lose those words. However, if I check with Stuart
files (en-GB) I get the same number of source words (the only
difference is that I've a lot of untranslated strings). May be is it
because of nlpsolver strings?
Am I doing something wrong or can I go on and translate the remaining
strings of my migration?

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

How do you count the numbers in directories?

I tried doing that with pocount, but it outputs a separate line for each
.po file, which is way too much lines to quickly compare...

At the end, you'll get the total of strings and words, this is what I passed in my mail yesterday.

Oh, OK, here are the (hopefully) correct numbers from pocount (you may want to switch to a monospace font to have better view). Try comparing your results to these:

ui/templates TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0
fuzzy: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 29000 (100%) 97272 (100%) n/a
Total: 29000 97272 0
File count: 232

ui/da TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 27337 ( 94%) 91733 ( 94%) 80589
fuzzy: 422 ( 1%) 1034 ( 1%) n/a
untranslated: 1241 ( 4%) 4505 ( 4%) n/a
Total: 29000 97272 80589
File count: 232

ui/en-GB TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 29004 (100%) 97289 (100%) 97327
fuzzy: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
Total: 29004 97289 97327
File count: 232

help/templates TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0
fuzzy: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 45213 (100%) 436620 (100%) n/a
Total: 45213 436620 0
File count: 51

help/da TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 44695 ( 98%) 429699 ( 98%) 378759
fuzzy: 287 ( 0%) 3544 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 234 ( 0%) 3498 ( 0%) n/a
Total: 45216 436741 378759
File count: 51

help/en-GB TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 45213 (100%) 436620 (100%) 438923
fuzzy: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
Total: 45213 436620 438923
File count: 51

Rimas

sophi · February 4, 2011, 12:04pm

Hi Rimas,

2011.02.04 13:26, Sophie Gautier rašė:

2011.02.04 13:06, Sophie Gautier rašė:

Hi all,

Hi Sophie,

so I've checked my old m83 OOofiles using pocompendium, then
pomigrate, then
pocount on the new files.
Here is what I get

TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 71873 ( 96%) 523148 ( 97%) 581661
fuzzy: 276 ( 0%) 1305 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 2097 ( 2%) 9456 ( 1%) n/a
Total: 74246 533909 581661

File count: 283
Does it sound reasonable?

It does. You did not add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, did you?

Now to get a full set of .po files for LibO I need to merge the
LibreOffice
3.3.x specific files that are on our Pootle repository, right?

Yes, you need to add lo-build-fr.po to your compendium, before you
update the tree.

so I did:
pocompendium checked.po -d m84 lo-build-fr.po
where m84 is my old OOo po files directory
then
pomigrate -F -C checked.po libo33x-new pot

then I get a directory containing 533909 source words in 283 files
which is different than the DA files in Pootle which contains 534013
source words.
I've no idea where I lose those words. However, if I check with Stuart
files (en-GB) I get the same number of source words (the only
difference is that I've a lot of untranslated strings). May be is it
because of nlpsolver strings?
Am I doing something wrong or can I go on and translate the remaining
strings of my migration?

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

How do you count the numbers in directories?

I tried doing that with pocount, but it outputs a separate line for each
.po file, which is way too much lines to quickly compare...

At the end, you'll get the total of strings and words, this is what I
passed in my mail yesterday.

Oh, OK, here are the (hopefully) correct numbers from pocount (you may
want to switch to a monospace font to have better view). Try comparing
your results to these:

ui/templates TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0
fuzzy: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 29000 (100%) 97272 (100%) n/a
Total: 29000 97272 0
File count: 232

ui/da TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 27337 ( 94%) 91733 ( 94%) 80589
fuzzy: 422 ( 1%) 1034 ( 1%) n/a
untranslated: 1241 ( 4%) 4505 ( 4%) n/a
Total: 29000 97272 80589
File count: 232

ui/en-GB TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 29004 (100%) 97289 (100%) 97327
fuzzy: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
Total: 29004 97289 97327
File count: 232

help/templates TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) 0
fuzzy: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 45213 (100%) 436620 (100%) n/a
Total: 45213 436620 0
File count: 51

help/da TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 44695 ( 98%) 429699 ( 98%) 378759
fuzzy: 287 ( 0%) 3544 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 234 ( 0%) 3498 ( 0%) n/a
Total: 45216 436741 378759
File count: 51

help/en-GB TOTAL:
type strings words (source) words (translation)
translated: 45213 (100%) 436620 (100%) 438923
fuzzy: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
untranslated: 0 ( 0%) 0 ( 0%) n/a
Total: 45213 436620 438923
File count: 51

Thanks a lot for your help, it's strange that the numbers are not the same. But well I've the same numbers for the help as the template numbers, and little more for UI (may it's better than less ;-).

Kind regards
Sophie

Rhoslyn · February 5, 2011, 10:58am

The Welsh translation of 3.3 included some English strings. I should have flagged up that there was a gap between the translation on Pavel's server and the latest on the OO.o Pootle server.The latest Welsh translation of OO.o is on the Pootle server. I'm having difficulty accessing it at present (Permission Denied!) but it's nearly all there. Thanks.

Rhos

Olivier_Hallot · February 6, 2011, 9:47am

Hello Rimas

I don't think I have the rights to create a new project for pt-BR and and upload these files. Can you do that for me?

Thank you.

Olivier

timar · February 6, 2011, 10:24am

Hi,

We are also hit by http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1632.
I'm sorry but I've just noticed it. I'll prepare new POT files to work
on when I'm back from FOSDEM.

Newly submitted sl, en-GB etc. translations will not be affected,
because they should have these strings currently in git. I'll double
check every commit I make in order not to loose any translated string.

Best regards,
Andras

filmsi · February 6, 2011, 5:47pm

Hi, Andras,

We are also hit by http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1632.
I'm sorry but I've just noticed it. I'll prepare new POT files to work
on when I'm back from FOSDEM.

Newly submitted sl, en-GB etc. translations will not be affected,
because they should have these strings currently in git. I'll double
check every commit I make in order not to loose any translated string.

since this was a known thing from OOo DEV codeline I am using the manually
changed script with Andras' line that covers those strings as well - so
Slovenian should include them (Slovenian is and should be 100% localized).

However it is a bug to have those strings marked that way (the tag is
obsolete, if I understand correctly, that is why the oo2po ignores them).

I hope Andras you will be able to include those Slovenian translations into
the system (or that by being in sdf they are already taken care of).

Lp, m.

Rimas_Kudelis · February 6, 2011, 7:59pm

Hi Andras,

2011.02.06 12:24, Andras Timar rašė:

We are also hit by http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1632.
I'm sorry but I've just noticed it. I'll prepare new POT files to work
on when I'm back from FOSDEM.

You may want to bump that bug, cause it seems a bit forgotten.

Rimas

Rimas_Kudelis · February 6, 2011, 8:16pm

Hello Olivier,

2011.02.06 11:47, Olivier Hallot wrote:

I don't think I have the rights to create a new project for pt-BR and and upload these files. Can you do that for me?

Done,

Rimas

timar · February 6, 2011, 8:31pm

2011.02.06. 20:59 keltezéssel, Rimas Kudelis írta:

Hi Andras,

2011.02.06 12:24, Andras Timar rašė:

We are also hit by http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1632.
I'm sorry but I've just noticed it. I'll prepare new POT files to work
on when I'm back from FOSDEM.

You may want to bump that bug, cause it seems a bit forgotten.

Yes, but first let's see, if we really need it. vcl/source/src/print.src
was fixed in OOo DEV300 codeline and we'll have that fix soon in master,
too. For LibO 3.3.x I'll use my patched version.

Cheers,
Andras

Rimas_Kudelis · February 6, 2011, 9:11pm

Hi Sophie,

2011.02.04 14:04, Sophie Gautier rašė:

Thanks a lot for your help, it's strange that the numbers are not the same. But well I've the same numbers for the help as the template numbers, and little more for UI (may it's better than less ;-).

Would you like me to import your translations into Pootle? If so, please send a URL of the archive (or two – one for UI, the other for Help) with .po files.

Rimas

Olav_Dahlum · February 6, 2011, 9:24pm

How soon can we get templates to work with?

Olav

timar · February 6, 2011, 10:11pm

2011.02.06. 22:24 keltezéssel, Olav Dahlum írta:

2011.02.06. 20:59 keltezéssel, Rimas Kudelis írta:

Hi Andras,

2011.02.06 12:24, Andras Timar rašė:

We are also hit by http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1632.
I'm sorry but I've just noticed it. I'll prepare new POT files to work
on when I'm back from FOSDEM.

You may want to bump that bug, cause it seems a bit forgotten.

Yes, but first let's see, if we really need it. vcl/source/src/print.src
was fixed in OOo DEV300 codeline and we'll have that fix soon in master,
too. For LibO 3.3.x I'll use my patched version.

Cheers,
Andras

How soon can we get templates to work with?

Now.
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/libreoffice-3-3-en-US-2011-02-06-UI.pot.tar.bz2
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/libreoffice-3-3-en-US-2011-02-06-help.pot.tar.bz2
bug#1632 was fixed and libreoffice-3-3-en-US-2011-02-01.sdf was used as
SDF template.

Rimas, is it possible to easily update existing translations in
"LibreOffice 3.3.x – Merged Help" and "LibreOffice 3.3.x – Merged UI"
modules with these new POT files?

Thanks,
Andras

sophi · February 7, 2011, 4:35am

Hi Rimas,

Hi Sophie,

2011.02.04 14:04, Sophie Gautier rašė:

Thanks a lot for your help, it's strange that the numbers are not the
same. But well I've the same numbers for the help as the template
numbers, and little more for UI (may it's better than less ;-).

Would you like me to import your translations into Pootle? If so, please
send a URL of the archive (or two – one for UI, the other for Help) with
.po files.

Thanks a lot for you offer. I didn't finish to complete the translation for UI yet, I would like to finish it first, then give you the URL for help and UI. I will not be ready for 3.3.1 anyway.

Kind regards
Sophie