Letter page format size prints portrait pages as landscape on OS X

users
#1

I have reported this as a recurrent bug - Bug 86838
When attempting to print a Writer portrait document, it prints rotated 90
degrees (= landscape).

This occurs with 5.3.5.X and 5.4.0.x

Does anyone have a similar problem?

Al Maloney

#2

Hi Al,

I have reported this as a recurrent bug - Bug 86838
When attempting to print a Writer portrait document, it prints rotated 90
degrees (= landscape).

This occurs with 5.3.5.X and 5.4.0.x

Does anyone have a similar problem?

For those users who don't care to read through the whole shebang of
comments on that bug report :

- it appears to affect only Mac OSX;

- it appears to affect only those users for whom the locale-based
default page setting is Letter - in other words, mainly US and Canadian
(not sure what the default page size is in Canada?) based users;

- it mainly seems to show up with Brother and HP printers.

Reports from users corresponding to the above much appreciated.

Alex

#3

The problem is resolved with:

Version: 5.4.0.3
Build ID: 7556cbc6811c9d992f4064ab9287069087d7f62c
CPU threads: 4; OS: Mac OS X 10.12.6; UI render: default;
Locale: en-CA (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group

Al Maloney

#4

Alex,

Apologies if this has already been answered as I only get the daily digest.

In Canada our standard is letter (8.5" x 11"), legal (8.5" x 14"), tabloid (11" x 17"). Because we use the metric system, PCs usually default to cm. This is totally useless since our paper standards are in inches.

I haven't had the problem with HP printers but I print to PDF more than direct to the printer. PDF production is good. Perhaps the people with this issue should print to pdf first and then open in Preview and print the PDF. I've done this in the past when Acrobat did silly things.

Until today I was using LO 5.3.4. Today I upgraded to 5.4 so we'll see if this changes.

B.

#5

Alex, I use to know a guy in Canada and he stated they use the metric system and he used A4 paper [8.27" by 11.69" roughly]. I use to get PDF documents from him in that format.

I do not know anymore with Windows 10, but I know that Ubuntu Linux printer drivers can be set as any number of page formats - like Letter, Borderless Letter, Legal, Tabloid Borderless Tabloid, and more. I also do not remember where you can set LibreOffice's page format defaults.

Personally I have all but my wide format printer paper size set as Letter. The wide format can go up to 13" by 19", but I keep Tabloid paper in it so that is its default. Rarely I print regular or Photo paper in the 13x19 size.

I have added external Print to PDF apps/drivers installed on both Ubuntu Linux and Windows 10. I use these when I want to create PDF files for the printouts of other software - like Email, Browser, etc.. I am looking for a better one for Ubuntu than the CUPS-PDF system. Before it went "wonky", I use to have CUPS-PDF as my default "printer". Now it is my laser printer.

I am using LO 5.2.7 since my Linux laptop[s] had problems with very slow

Page dialog opening using 5.3.3 and .4. IT could take as much as

30 seconds. 5.2.7 does not have that issue. I may upgrade a spare laptop to 5.4.0.3[?] to see if the issue has been fixed.

#6

Officially, Canada uses A, B etc sizes. Unofficially it uses letter etc. As a practical matter, people use whatever the local stationary store offers, which appears to depend upon locale.

jonathon

#7

That clears it up. I once had to make and print A4 size documents. I am glad that Canada also uses letter size sheets. It saves me from having to stock A4 again.

The Office and/or paper supply stores charge a high premium to purchase A4 paper. I buy a ream of Letter size for under $4 at my grocery store, but the online site I buy 90% of my paper has A4 paper for $11 plus shipping.

As for a link to LibreOffice, Writer is the default package I use to create posters from letter size to 11x17 size. I really save the 13x19 paper for my own family's needs.

If I cannot use LibreOffice, then I have to go to Inkscape. But LibreOffice does 95%, or more, of my poster and sign needs. Thanks to my finding LibreOffice all those years ago when I was looking for a replacement for not-upgrading OpenOffice.org.

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In my apartment home office "paper wall" - 55" by 54" in size - has shelf upon shelf of paper from 4x6 inches to 13x19 inch paper in white, color, card stock, and various types of photo paper. Right now A4 paper is not needed anymore.

All my old, faded, white paper goes to my grand nephew and grand niece as coloring sheets.

Can you believe that 13x19 photo paper costs a lot less that 11x17 photo paper - if you can find it. I print so much paper I have to buy from a ream to several per month when I do a heavy print cycle. I have to buy an inkjet printer every 6 to 10 months - alone with the 3 different numbered ink-tank cartridges - 2 for Canon photo printers and 1 for the HP wide format printer. I rarely use a laser toner cartridge a year.

People in the same apartment tower[s] I live in sees my different printers and paper wall and sees no reason to have all this "stuff". Then they ask me to print something for them is a paper color that most people never have printed on before. They expect me to buy a half-ream the new color for 10-20 sheets. I do my best to steer them to the closest color I have in stock. That is one reason I stock so many paper types and colors. They just do not get why until they need printing from me.

#8

Tim,

Well, of course this is what one is used to..

Here in the Netherlands (Europe) if one would need different sizes then A1 - A5 one has to specially order it. All is standardized to the A sizes, with the added advantage that if A5 is needed, and you don't have it on stock, you just cut A4 in half..

From our perspective the A standards reduce the need to stock all those sizes (letter/legal etc.). Of course the prices are here just contrary to your experience.

Rob.

#9

Yes I know how the A series of page sizes may be better than what we use in the USA.

I wish I did not need as many sized, colors, and stiles.

WHAT is the "standard" sizes of inkjet photo paper?

USA uses:
4 x 6 inches - have matte and glossy
8 x 10 inches - too expensive per sheet
8.5 x 11 inches - have glossy
11 x17 inches - more expensive than the next size larger
13 x 19 inches - have glossy

I am grateful that I can format these page sizes within Writer. Between LO and GIMP [sometimes Inkscape], I have what I need to take advantage of their options to make my photos the best I can for photo and document printing.

I bought the wide format printer to print 11 by 17 inch newsletters. I use to take letter size pages to a printing service for them to make them for me. Usually it took 3 or 4 Tabloid Sheets [12 or 16 letter size faces] to have everything needed for the content I/They needed.

One of the issues I have to deal with is the fact people wants very specific page color[s] for their signs and/or fliers. I sometime ended up buying their specific paper colors. Right now, I have neon yellow, 2 different goldenrod colors, and Pumpkin. The same mix of colors with pink to reds, etc.. I have a variety of pastel colors for Tabloid [11x17 inches] along with the "standard white and white card stock.

#10

So, how do you handle the problem of LO not being able to print directly
to Tabloid size paper?

#11

Hi Al,

the printing dialog has the option "Use only paper size from printer preferences" on the tab "Options". Check that.
Then go back to tab "General". There click on button "Properties".
That opens the settings dialog of your printer.
Now set the paper size and orientation there.

Is the preview correct?

If the preview is correct and it still prints wrong, then it is an error.

Kind regards
Regina

amaloney schrieb:

#12

First I go to the Printer's driver options and set my wide format printer for Tabloid.

Second go to Files>Printer settings. Define the default printer to be used - i.e. my wide format printer - by defining the page size is linked to the printer's page size.

Third, I have the Writer options set up for using the paper size that is currently indicated by the printer. Checking the Writer Print option from Tools>Options>Writer does help only if you define the page size and use the printer that has that paper size loaded. When you do these things, your page size should automatically format itself to Tabloid. I just went through the process to remember how to do this.

Since my printers are for different "jobs" I have them defined differently.

HP Officejet 7000 is set for tabloid, thought I do define it to 13x19 when needed.

Laserjet 2300dn uses letter size about 95% of the time. Legal size is also used but not much.

Canon MG6220 general inkjet printer with the bottom tray white letter sheets, and the rear tray uses either Photo stock or colored paper.

Canon TS9020 [newest] has white letter sheet in the bottom tray and the rear tray is defined as photo sheets. When I load paper into that printer, I must define the paper that loaded - i.e. plain paper or photo paper.

This works for all of the printers most of the time, except when needed borderless printing. The it can be hit or miss. That is why I tend to create the PDF file so Linux's Document Viewer does the print option. It does show Borderless Letter and Tabloid page sizes. I forget which PDF viewing package I use for Windows 10.

So, unless I need to change the paper sizes - like B Borderless 11x17 to SuperB Borderless 13x19 - this works out most of the time. Make sure the printer margins and the document's margin are compatible. The Officejet has a weird problem of a 1.5 inch bottom margin even though the top works with 0.25 inch margin. That is another reason I use the PDF copy. Most of the time the SuperB borderless paper setting can correct that issue.

Still it does work out most of the time.