LibO for Ubuntu

Just fired up my Ubuntu box after a long absence (I've migrated to Mac).

Have I missed something, or is LibO really not to be found amongst the apps available via Synaptic or the new Ubuntu Software Centre?

//James

Hi, :slight_smile:

Have I missed something, or is LibO really not to be found amongst the apps available via Synaptic or the new Ubuntu Software Centre?

Search for "libreoffice" rather than "LibO"... It's there in 10.10...

David Nelson

Currently there is a PPA for LO. You are better off (in my opinion) installing from the debs from the LO site. Remove OOo first if you have it installed.

Hi, :slight_smile:

My best recommendation for Ubuntu users is still to just install it
from the Ubuntu Software Center... The debs on the LibreOffice site
are more for special needs and people who always want the most
up-to-date version... For your average user, go with the Ubuntu
Software Center (search on libreoffice).

David Nelson

Not until 11.04 is out.
So until then you can download it from the LibreOffice.org download site.
That is what I did.

Also in 10.04.

I'd be willing to bet that you have the Ubuntu libreoffice PPA. What do
you show for:

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep libreoffice

Can you also show the output of:

$ apt-cache policy libreoffice

Thanks, NoOp. I decided to google on it, and discovered that I was lacking a repository in my Synaptic. Fixed that last night, and now I have LioB installed. Must just update it with the UK, Swedish and Chinese dictionaries and stuff.

//J

Only if a) you already have it installed or b) you have added the PPA
to your apt-* configuration. It is not there by default.

Also, I recommend using the official release *.debs from TDF. Read
back entries in this list's archives for the pros and cons of why or
why not.

...

I'd be willing to bet that you have the Ubuntu libreoffice PPA.
What do you show for:

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep libreoffice

Can you also show the output of:

$ apt-cache policy libreoffice

Thanks, NoOp. I decided to google on it, and discovered that I was
lacking a repository in my Synaptic. Fixed that last night, and now
I have LioB installed. Must just update it with the UK, Swedish and
Chinese dictionaries and stuff.

Hope that works for you. Personally, unless I were testing/contributing
for Ubuntu, I'd take ZenWiz's advise and install from the libreoffice
.debs.

I have issues with a PPA/package that insists on uninstalling (or
insisting that I uninstall) an existing OOo install simply because the
packager can't figure out how to install (or is too lazy to do so) the
LO package without affecting existing office packages.
  I wonder just how many would find it acceptable if the LO PPA also
removed all other office packages (Abiword for instance) in the process?
Or if the TDF .deb required that you uninstalled your distro OOo before
installing. Amazing...

Please remember to report issues in launchpad & specify that you are
running the PPA version. Also, if you report issues here, please do the
same (specify that you are running a distro PPA version).

________________________________
From: MR ZenWiz <mrzenwiz@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 19:22:53
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO for Ubuntu

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:50 AM, David Nelson <commerce@traduction.biz> wrote:

Hi, :slight_smile:

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:29, James Wilde <james.wilde@sunde-wilde.com> wrote:

Have I missed something, or is LibO really not to be found amongst the apps
available via Synaptic or the new Ubuntu Software Centre?

Search for "libreoffice" rather than "LibO"... It's there in 10.10...

Only if a) you already have it installed or b) you have added the PPA
to your apt-* configuration. It is not there by default.

Also, I recommend using the official release *.debs from TDF. Read
back entries in this list's archives for the pros and cons of why or
why not.

Hi :slight_smile:
In Ubuntu 10.04 i don't have a Ppa for LibreOffice but still found it in the
repos. I do have the medibuntu repos added of course but i doubt libreoffice is
in there. I need to test this with a LiveCd session sometime soon to see what
the defaults are.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

My reply was not intended as a rejection of your suggestion, NoOp. It was simply that, in the intervening period, I had manually removed OOo, and managed to find out what I needed to do to get the LibO repository registered in Ubuntu. Amazing, as an aside, how quickly one's knowledge of unix commands disappears when one stops using them. Since I retired I guess about 90% of what was once automatic has evaporated.

Since I now have LibO on the machine, albeit from the ppa, I'll see how I get on with that one. I'll test adding the UK, Swedish and Chinese language packs, and see if they find the original US version, and if, so, I'm happy. I'm not in linux all that often nowadays. If not, I'll unload and reload from the LibO site version as you and others have suggested.

//James

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Thanks, NoOp. I decided to google on it, and discovered that I was
lacking a repository in my Synaptic. Fixed that last night, and now
I have LioB installed. Must just update it with the UK, Swedish and
Chinese dictionaries and stuff.

Please do not take this the "wrong" way. Would you let me know what dictionaries are installed with the UK and Swedish versions of the language packs. There should be only one for the UK but Swedish has a version for Finland as well. I found that one while I added my list of all the "known" dictionaries on the last three-quarters for the extension page for the North American DVD project.
http://www.lungstrom.com/libreoffice-dvd-project/LibreOffice-disc-North-American-DVD/extensions.html
I am wondering if the Swedish pack installs the thesaurus, spelling dictionary, and the Finland version. I found these as separate add ons and wonder if the spelling dictionary and thesaurus shows up separately in the Extension Manager.

I just got a "bug" in me about the dictionaries for LibreOffice. When I "tested" it on my Vista laptop [which I rarely use for "office suite work"] I used the "all language" version and installed 5 or more extra languages. It seemed that I got a dictionary for the entire language list in the custom install. Not just the languages I installed, but the whole list. I am glad that we get to choose language packs with Linux, but my Ubuntu desktop keeps giving a dependency error for a .deb that I have installed but it wants en-GB instead of the file name en-gb. So I cannot check out what Linux installs.
<snip>

...

Thanks, NoOp. I decided to google on it, and discovered that I
was lacking a repository in my Synaptic. Fixed that last night,
and now I have LioB installed. Must just update it with the UK,
Swedish and Chinese dictionaries and stuff.

Hope that works for you. Personally, unless I were
testing/contributing for Ubuntu, I'd take ZenWiz's advise and
install from the libreoffice .debs.

I have issues with a PPA/package that insists on uninstalling (or
insisting that I uninstall) an existing OOo install simply because
the packager can't figure out how to install (or is too lazy to do
so) the LO package without affecting existing office packages. I
wonder just how many would find it acceptable if the LO PPA also
removed all other office packages (Abiword for instance) in the
process? Or if the TDF .deb required that you uninstalled your
distro OOo before installing. Amazing...

Please remember to report issues in launchpad & specify that you
are running the PPA version. Also, if you report issues here,
please do the same (specify that you are running a distro PPA
version).

My reply was not intended as a rejection of your suggestion, NoOp.

Not taken that way :slight_smile:

It was simply that, in the intervening period, I had manually removed
OOo, and managed to find out what I needed to do to get the LibO
repository registered in Ubuntu. Amazing, as an aside, how quickly
one's knowledge of unix commands disappears when one stops using
them. Since I retired I guess about 90% of what was once automatic
has evaporated.

I simply don't like the fact that PPA LO removes, requires the removal
of, OOo. I run multiple versions of OOo (OOo standard, (U)OOo, OOo-dev)
and LO. Often it is *very* handy to bring up some, or all, at the same
time so that I can compare issues between them. It also helps when a
'feature' on one fails, but works in the other. Example of the last is
Impress presentations; doesn't work in OOo-standard/OOo-dev. I'm beyond
messing about with Sun/Oracle's lame requirements of jmf - (U)OOo and LO
use gstreamer instead.

Since I now have LibO on the machine, albeit from the ppa, I'll see
how I get on with that one. I'll test adding the UK, Swedish and
Chinese language packs, and see if they find the original US version,
and if, so, I'm happy. I'm not in linux all that often nowadays. If
not, I'll unload and reload from the LibO site version as you and
others have suggested.

No worries. Just please don't forget to mention what you are using when
posting here, and file bug reports at launchpad instead of bugzilla. If
you need help with doing that let me know.

Gary

Is there a wrong way to take a request for help? :wink:

I'll be happy to do what I can if you can tell me where and/or how to look. I fired up my ubuntu box again, and the best I could find was a list of files in the various language packs, and a number of .deb files which dpkg -l refused to do anything with.

On my Mac box I have apparently moved or even re-moved the packages I downloaded. I have, however, opened /Preferences/Language Settings/Writing Aids, and all I can find under User-defined dictionaries are:

AM-english [English (UK)]
Personal English [English(UK)]
Personal Swedish [Swedish (Sweden)]
standard [All]
oracle [All]
soffice [All]
IgnoreAllList [All]

I have earlier been told that the Chinese language pack does not include a dictionary, which perhaps explains the lack in this list. But it does not appear that I have loaded a Finnish dictionary. Come to that, the Swedish one appears to be a Personal dictionary, which I assume to mean it consists of words that I decide to add if the search can't find them.

Actually I'll d/l the Mac versions from the LibO site and see if I can expand them and let you know. And I daresay I can d/l the linux versions, too, and see if there is any difference.

//James

But there is at least ONE major problem installing from ppa or the Ubuntu Software centre - if you do NOT use Evolution as your mail client, the supplied version in the repositories does NOT recognise any other address book - same as the supplied Open office. It's about time they changed that...

Installed dictionaries are not listed in that location. They are in Tools/Extension Manager.

Locations on Mac OS X:
To see the dictionaries and extensions installed by default:
In finder go to 'Applications'.
Right click on 'LibreOffice.app'.
Click on 'Show Package Contents'.
Navigate to '/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/share/extensions' to see dictionaries and extensions installed by default.

User installed extensions and dictionaries are located in the user profile.
/Users/<user name>/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/3/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages

Larry

On my Mac box I have apparently moved or even re-moved the packages I downloaded. I have, however, opened /Preferences/Language Settings/Writing Aids, and all I can find under User-defined dictionaries are:

AM-english [English (UK)]
Personal English [English(UK)]
Personal Swedish [Swedish (Sweden)]
standard [All]
oracle [All]
soffice [All]
IgnoreAllList [All]

Installed dictionaries are not listed in that location. They are in Tools/Extension Manager.

Here I can see Swedish dictionary 1.43 and English spelling and hyphenating dictionaries and thesaurus 2010.03.16

Locations on Mac OS X:
To see the dictionaries and extensions installed by default:
In finder go to 'Applications'.
Right click on 'LibreOffice.app'.
Click on 'Show Package Contents'.
Navigate to '/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/share/extensions' to see dictionaries and extensions installed by default.

User installed extensions and dictionaries are located in the user profile.
/Users/<user name>/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/3/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages

Thanks, Larry, then I don't have any installed. Under uno_packages all I have is a document called kVmsXP and a folder with the name kVmsXP_. No dictionaries in the folder. Wonder how I'll remove them if I ever need to. The padlock is closed, and doesn't open for me when I click it.

//James

To install and uninstall extensions and dictionaries use the Extension Manager. The extension/dictionaries with a padlock are the ones installed by default and are in the Program files. The ones without padlocks are the ones installed by the user and are in the user profile.

The ones install by default can only be remove by deleting them from the program files.

I do not know what extension kVmsXP_ is. The actual extension should be in the Extension Manager.

Larry