LibO wishlist?

users
#1

ISTR seeing a wishlist of sorts regarding LibO development, but is there one anywhere for the product in general (from a user's viewpoint)? Someplace we can post desired features, changes, etc.?

One thing I would love to see is the use of a full-spectrum color selector widget instead of the pallette-based widget now used. Named palletted colors can certainly be useful in some instances (depending on target media, processes, etc.), but most of the time a full-spectrum selector is better. It's not like we're all still running 8-bit video systems primarily, anyway. Whether generally modeled after the Gnome widget, Windows, Qt or whatever, it would be nice to be able to pick exactly the color desired rather than something /close/ (or at least, without having to load lots of different pallettes). Plus, IMO in terms of end user perception, this makes LibO look dated.

Or have I missed a way to accomplish this?

Thanks.

#2

There are two ways, that I know of to reach the devs, with suggestions. The first is on the bug tracker [1] and in their mailing list [2]. They have an IRC channel but suggestion post there may get lost the list or tracker gives a record of the suggestions so that they can be followed upon.

[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
[2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice

HTH
Andy

#3

[ From users@libreoffice.org (Andy Brown) on Saturday, February 05, 2011 ]

ISTR seeing a wishlist of sorts regarding LibO development, but is there one anywhere for the product in general (from a user's viewpoint)? Someplace we can post desired features, changes, etc.?
One thing I would love to see is the use of a full-spectrum color selector widget instead of the pallette-based widget now used.

[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
[2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Andy

Thanks for the info - I'll check it out.

Just curious... Regarding my color picker comments: Am I just missing it? Is there a way to access a modern color chooser or are pallettes the sole implementation in LibO?

Thanks again.

#4

I am only aware of the pallet choices. As I am do not use much in the way of colors though I maybe wrong.

Andy

#5

Hi Len,

Len Philpot wrote (05-02-11 17:15)

Just curious... Regarding my color picker comments: Am I just missing
it? Is there a way to access a modern color chooser or are pallettes
the sole implementation in LibO?

Via Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Colors you can add colors.

I think that is what you are looking for?

Best,
Cor

#6

[ From users@libreoffice.org (Cor Nouws) on Saturday, February 05, 2011 ]

Len Philpot wrote (05-02-11 17:15)

Just curious... Regarding my color picker comments: Am I just missing
it? Is there a way to access a modern color chooser or are pallettes
the sole implementation in LibO?

Via Tools >> Options > LibreOffice > Colors you can add colors.
I think that is what you are looking for?
Best,
Cor

Well, sort of. :slight_smile:

I realize it's possible to add *any* color(s) to a palette*, but in order to have a truly universal /palette/, every possible 24/32 bit combinations would have to be added. I would presume that is impractical, if not impossible in realistic terms...? What I would personally like to see is a color chooser widget with every possible color directly selectable (whether by direct picking or via RGB / HSL / CMYK numbers, etc.), plus optionally the ability to save named custom colors as well as to filter it to show only specific palettes (eg, websafe colors, etc.). Nothing really new, per se -- Much like GTK, Windows, QT, etc. -- Just not (yet) availble in LibO.

* Although the only place I've found so far in LibO where a specific (file) palette can be loaded from disk is on the background color attrtibutes dialog in Draw. I don't have OOo installed any longer, but ISTR seeing the "load palette from disk" option available elsewhere. Has that been removed or am I remembering wrong?

Thanks!

#7

Hi Len,

Len Philpot wrote (06-02-11 01:13)

Via Tools>> Options> LibreOffice> Colors you can add colors. I
think that is what you are looking for? Best, Cor

Well, sort of. :slight_smile:

I realize it's possible to add *any* color(s) to a palette*, but in
order to have a truly universal /palette/, every possible 24/32 bit
combinations would have to be added. I would presume that is
impractical, if not impossible in realistic terms...? What I would
personally like to see is a color chooser widget with every possible
color directly selectable (whether by direct picking or via RGB / HSL
/ CMYK numbers, etc.), plus optionally the ability to save named
custom colors as well as to filter it to show only specific palettes
(eg, websafe colors, etc.). Nothing really new, per se -- Much like
GTK, Windows, QT, etc. -- Just not (yet) availble in LibO.

Sounds good :slight_smile:

* Although the only place I've found so far in LibO where a specific
(file) palette can be loaded from disk is on the background color
attrtibutes dialog in Draw. I don't have OOo installed any longer,
but ISTR seeing the "load palette from disk" option available
elsewhere. Has that been removed or am I remembering wrong?

I see it also in the page Background of drawing objects in Writer. So maybe it even is on more places.

Regards,
Cor

#8

I think you will find what Cor was talking about if with to Color dialog open, click the Edit or Modify buttons. If you enter a name in the top box the click the Edit/Modify button set the color as you wish, click OK then Add on the original dialog you will have what your looking for.

Andy

#9

[ From users@libreoffice.org (Cor Nouws) on Saturday, February 05, 2011 ]

(eg, websafe colors, etc.). Nothing really new, per se -- Much like
GTK, Windows, QT, etc. -- Just not (yet) availble in LibO.

Sounds good :slight_smile:

Well, and it's far from being a showstopper for me. The vast majority of what I do works just fine with paletted color. But, for example, a graphic designer (which I was in a past life :slight_smile: will use hundreds if not thousands of individual, carefully chosen specific colors over the course of their work and having to choose them via paletted subsets is counterproductive. Draw could certainly use a picker that presents all possible 32-bit colors in a variety of models, as well as filters for web, CMYK, Pantone, Toyo, etc. (not to mention knowledge of 4-color process printing, screen angles, trapping, dot gain, service bureaus, etc., etc.). I've not used Illustrator in quite a while, but even old CorelDRAW 9 <g> has a wide variety of "color presentations". But, one step at a time. :slight_smile:

And just to put myself in the proper context (so I'm not misunderstood)... I have a perfectly legal purchased copy of MS Office 2003 here on my PC. However, an "upgrade" to MSO 2007 at work was the final straw in prompting me to move back to LibO (actually OOo 3.1 at the time) here at home, where I have control over it. I try to be very practical about it: I really like LibO and would like to see it continue to improve. It's not perfect, but neither is anything else and I like it.

but ISTR seeing the "load palette from disk" option available
elsewhere. Has that been removed or am I remembering wrong?

I see it also in the page Background of drawing objects in Writer. So
maybe it even is on more places.

I'll have to look deeper, obviously. :slight_smile:

Thanks again.

#10

Not sure if this will fit your need, but you can try:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/colorpalettes
ZwahlenDesign Color Palettes
by ZwahlenDesign
http://www.zwahlendesign.ch/colorpalettes
That will allow you to add .soc palettes in Writer et al.

You don't mention what OS & LO version you are running (unless I missed
it somewhere), but on LO linux the default .soc files for the user are
maintained in:
/home/<username>/.libreoffice/3/user/config/
Example:
cmyk.soc html.soc palette_en-US.soc standard.soc tango.soc
gallery.soc libreoffice.soc scribus.soc sun-color.soc web.soc

When you install ZwahlenDesign extension, those .soc's are located in
the ZD_Color_Palettes folder:
~/.libreoffice/3/user/config/ZD_Color_Palettes
I've found that I can easily add other .soc's (scribus.soc for example)
in the ZD_Color_Palettes folder and hten use the ZD_Color_Palettes
extension to change for Writer et al.

I think an improvement would be to have the
Tools>Options>Libre...|Colors picker buttons available so that you could
load an .soc/palette from there. Note: You can do this in Draw by:
<http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Draw_Guide/Color_palette>
See:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:DG8-25.png

#11

Hi Len,

Len Philpot wrote (06-02-11 02:12)

[ From users@libreoffice.org (Cor Nouws) on Saturday, February 05,
2011 ]

(eg, websafe colors, etc.). Nothing really new, per se -- Much
like GTK, Windows, QT, etc. -- Just not (yet) availble in LibO.

Sounds good :slight_smile:

Well, and it's far from being a showstopper for me. The vast majority
of what I do works just fine with paletted color.
[...]
I really like LibO and would like
to see it continue to improve. It's not perfect, but neither is
anything else and I like it.

Thanks :slight_smile:

Cor

#12

but in order to have a truly universal /palette/, every possible 24/32 bit combinations would have to be added.
I would presume that is impractical, if not impossible in realistic terms.

CF
http://libreoffice-environment.blogspot.com/2010/11/ultimate-colour-palette-for-libreoffice.html

..? What I would personally like to see is a color chooser widget with
every possible color directly selectable (whether by direct picking or
via RGB / HSL / CMYK numbers, etc.), plus optionally the ability to save
named custom colors as well as to filter it to show only specific
palettes (eg, websafe colors, etc.).

">Tools >Options >Colours" lets one add a colour by RGB or CYMK value.

>but ISTR seeing the "load palette from disk" option available elsewhere.

Once upon a time, an extension that offered that option was available.

jonathon