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Dear Hal
I had no Idea this happened, I thought just by putting in a new subject changed the thread.
I will make up a template for use for new subjects from now on.
John B
Hi 
Sorry, i didn't notice this because i don't use Nabble or Gmane for the emailing
list. I just use my normal email-client and i imagine most new users do too.
Still, it's good to know for the future so thanks for that Hal
Regards from
Tom
It has nothing to do with using Nabble or Gmane.
Most e-mail clients can be set to sort incoming messages into threads.
BTW please set your client to attribute messages you are replying to so people can tell what you write and what you are replying to.
Larry
Sorry, i didn't notice this because i don't use Nabble or Gmane for the emailing
list. I just use my normal email-client and i imagine most new users do too.
Still, it's good to know for the future so thanks for that HalIt has nothing to do with using Nabble or Gmane.
I don't know about Nabble, but Gmane is nntp, where message references
work the same way (or at least in a very similar way). So using reply-to
to "start a new thread" screws people in Gmane too.
Please just do what you want to do. If you want to send a new message,
and not reply to some other message, *do not* use the "reply to" feature
of your client, use the "new message" "compose mail" or equivalent. It's
not hard to copy and paste the list address.
Likewise, if you want to reply to another message, use "reply to", not
"new message", "compose mail".
Just like when you set your power supply to run on 230V (and *not* 110V)
when you use your computer in a 230V power network.
Most e-mail clients can be set to sort incoming messages into threads.
BTW please set your client to attribute messages you are replying to
so people can tell what you write and what you are replying to.
Tom seems to be using Yahoo webmail. From the little experience I had
with "webmails", they rarely do a good job of not screwing emails.
Tom's mails have attribution, it's just in some uncommon format (MS
Outlook-like?).
I'm lucky enough to have a client that has an Outlook-deuglify feature,
but it still can't "fix" the outermost attribution in some emails, I
just fix these manually.
Ok - I use Thunderbird and found out how to switch threads ON, since I have never used them before.
Thunderbird now displays in a tree like fashion
I thought - that looks good - I will leave that on
Then a few new emails came in - and I had to scan to find out where they were posted, because they attach to the bottom of an email tread (maybe even from weeks ago). and not at the very top.
Ahh - That is no good for me I need to see them in date order so OFF its gone again.
Now, whilst I can see the advantage viewing by "thread posting" if that's the right term, I doubt that I will ever use it myself.
regards
John B
John,
In Thunderbird, sort your threaded messages by date. Then you have the thread with the most recent additions fist (I sort with most recent up) and the you have exactly what you want.
If your thread is collapsed you see the addition to the thread as the starting mail of the thread is underlined.
I use that for over 3 years and never wanted it otherwise.
The best way is first to collapse all threads and then sort them on date, most recent first.
Joep
nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) writes:
If you want to send a new message, and not reply to some other
message, *do not* use the "reply to" feature of your client, use the
"new message" "compose mail" or equivalent. It's not hard to copy and
paste the list address.
Email clients can be configured to automatically use the mailing list
address when writing a followup and to either send a Cc or not. Perhaps
Thunderbird supports that, too, so John B (and others using Thunderbird)
could set it up accordingly if they want to?
No, the issue here is that John B *did* write a followup when what he
wanted to do was write a completely new, independent message.
nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) writes:
nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) writes:
If you want to send a new message, and not reply to some other
message, *do not* use the "reply to" feature of your client, use the
"new message" "compose mail" or equivalent. It's not hard to copy and
paste the list address.Email clients can be configured to automatically use the mailing list
address when writing a followup and to either send a Cc or not. Perhaps
Thunderbird supports that, too, so John B (and others using Thunderbird)
could set it up accordingly if they want to?No, the issue here is that John B *did* write a followup when what he
wanted to do was write a completely new, independent message.
... and he wouldn't need to copy the email address to write to the list
if he had Thunderbird set up to recognise the list.
On that note -- isn't it really uncomfortable to have a threaded discussion via e-mail (and have an e-mail sent to you for every post you might never even want to read?)
I know this is derailing the thread a bit, but I'm just now feeling the disadvantage of taking part in a newsgroup that's run via e-mail, using a news server (gmane in my case) that's more or less just bolted on (with my messages appearing a day late in the list and so on...), and I would have thought that the most sensible thing would have been to have a proper nntp server in the first place. After all, most e-mail clients can just set up nntp accounts with no problem (at least Opera has been able to, since at least ten years.) And things like the problem that started this thread could be more easily avoided if there was a clear distinction between regular e-mail and newsgroup posts.
It appears I must overlook something here, since these days everyone seems to switch to mailing lists instead of newsgroups, but I don't really see what the advantage is supposed to be.
Zak
Hi All
When making a Query in LO Base how do you select the contents of a Tick-Box?
ie I have a Tick-Box to indicate a particular class of people in my DB - so how do I make the Query select only Tick-Boxes that have a tick in them?
Thanks
Ian Whitfield//
Hi All
A question - Am I being stupid or asking to simple questions or am I just asking questions that can't be answered or that nobody has the answers for, or can be bothered to reply to??
My last three questions to the list have gone un-responded to!!
On Jun 27 I asked about Subforms and Photos.
On Jun 30 I asked about combining fields
And on Jul 17 I asked about Queries.
I really wonder why I get no replies. Any suggestions??
_A new question_ - I know and use the 'Like' statement when searching my Database but wonder if there are other Statements like this? I could really use one the looks for a string _within_ the field. Does one exist? ie if a Member's eMail address is "Africa.John@abc.com" I would like to look for all addresses that have 'John' _within_ them.
Thanks - I look forward to some replies (good or bad).
Ian Whitfield
////
Hi Ian,
Well, I'd use something like fieldname LIKE *John*, but then I might be missing
the point.
Good luck with the other questions
Heinrich (Salzburg-Austria)
Hi
Base is tricky. There are a few experts out there but it's not something that
most people use a lot so not many people know odd tricks and common pitfalls.
Also the documentation for it is not yet done and is not likely to be completed
any time soon. It's annoying but that is just the way of things at the moment.
The best documentation at the moment is Chapter 8 in the Getting Started guide
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
I also heard of a forum or something in OpenOffice that might be worth trying to
find.
Apols, good luck and regards from
Tom
Try http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php
They have tutorials and a help section for Base
Larry
Hi All
Am I being stupid
Know I am
On Jun 27 I asked about Subforms and Photos.
Difficult question requiring thought. No idea what your question is, but I have used photos in subforms, but I have found Base and LO sufficiently fragile (Things that used to work no longer do, etc.) I have not decided if I will continue to use it or switch to something else.
On Jun 30 I asked about combining fields
No idea what that means, but, another difficult question probably.
And on Jul 17 I asked about Queries.
Even more difficult.
I really wonder why I get no replies.
Likely it is not you, it is the people who deal with the list.
_A new question_ - I know and use the 'Like' statement when searching my Database but wonder if there are other Statements like this? I could really use one the looks for a string _within_ the field. Does one exist? ie if a Member's eMail address is "Africa.John@abc.com" I would like to look for all addresses that have 'John' _within_ them.
I would use 'like', as you said.
Hi Ian,
When making a Query in LO Base how do you select the contents of a
Tick-Box?ie I have a Tick-Box to indicate a particular class of people in my DB -
so how do I make the Query select only Tick-Boxes that have a tick in them?
If you have a new question, please start a new thread instead of
"replying to", otherwise it makes it very difficult to follow what is
going on.
Anyway, a tick box should be linked to a Boolean field, so either your
query can contain any of the following SQL :
where 'fieldname' IS TRUE/FALSE
where 'fieldname' = 1/0
replace TRUE WITH FALSE or 1 with 0 as appropriate.
From what I remember, a tick box can actually have 3 possible states (a)
deactivated (i.e. neither selected nor unselected), (b) selected (value
= TRUE or 0) and (c) unselected (value = FALSE or 1). You might like to
check whether that is actually the case though, because I might have got
TRUE and FALSE mixed up.
That is the theory, at least. The reality is that throughout various
versions of OOo prior to the existence of LibreOffice, boolean fields
linked to tick boxes sometimes behaved rather strangely, and did not
work as expected/intended. All I can say is try it out and see whether
it works as you wish.
Alex