LibreOffice RC1 and language packs on Linux (Mandriva 2010.1)

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#1

I have installed LibreOffice RC1 (US) with language packs UK, FR. When I check to see if spelling is activated on the language packs that have been downloaded, there is no check marks showing next to these languages. I thought that this was usually the way to add specific language dictionaries. Spellcheck does not seem to work in any language.

Am I doing something wrong?

Marc

#2

Do you have a spelling package installed? Please search here:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org

E.g. for german spelling you need the package dict-de_DE_*.oxt or
dict-de_DE-frami_*.oxt. You can install this file with LibreOffice for
each user, or systemwide into the directory
/opt/libreoffice/share/extensions/

Have a nice day,

Joachim (Germany)

#3

"Marc Paré" <marc@marcpare.com> wrote in message news:idivug$2bo$1@dough.gmane.org...
I have installed LibreOffice RC1 (US) with language packs UK, FR. When I
check to see if spelling is activated on the language packs that have
been downloaded, there is no check marks showing next to these
languages. I thought that this was usually the way to add specific
language dictionaries. Spellcheck does not seem to work in any language.

Am I doing something wrong?

Marc

As I understand it a Language Pack is designed to change the language of the UI - menus, Help text etc. Language Packs have nothing to do with spell checking or with the language(s) in which you write your documents. You need Dictionaries which come in the form of "extensions".

I cannot find (Google) a web site for LibreOffice extensions so I suppose you need to use the OpenOffice ones. Please, someone tell me I'm wrong about this :frowning:

#4

Harold Fuchs wrote:

As I understand it a Language Pack is designed to change the language of the
UI - menus, Help text etc. Language Packs have nothing to do with spell
checking or with the language(s) in which you write your documents. You need
Dictionaries which come in the form of "extensions".

This (no dictionaries in language packs) used to be the case for
OpenOffice.org language packs; but the OpenOffice.org (and thus, the
LibreOffice) architecture was modified in recent times to allow
inclusion of dictionaries in a language pack.

The current (3.3-RC) OpenOffice.org language packs do include
dictionaries, for example.

Regards,
  Andrea.

#5

It doesn't work on my copy of LO 3.3RC1 on my Mandriva 2010.1 boxes (all 3). I downloaded the EN-UK and FR language packs but the dictionaries did not work.

I then downloaded the dictionaries from here: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries?cid=926385 and loaded them through the extension manager. The loaded dictionaries now all work as they should.

Marc

#6

Hi,

I can confirm, what Marc wrote.
With only the languagepack installed, spellcheck didn't work for me
either. Only after installing the extra dictionary from the OOo
extension website did it start working.

Sigrid

#7

Sigrid Carrera wrote:

I can confirm, what Marc wrote.
With only the languagepack installed, spellcheck didn't work for me
either. Only after installing the extra dictionary from the OOo
extension website did it start working.

OK, then this just means the packaging is unchanged in LibreOffice since
I reported this about two months ago in
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/574/focus=709
(you can read the complete thread from the link above).

Regards,
  Andrea.

#8

Please distinguish:

* spelling check (sometimes + thesaurus): e.g. dict-de_DE_*.oxt
                                                dict-fr_FR_*.oxt

* grammar check (for many languages): extension-languagetool package
                                         or LanguageTool_*.oxt

For systemwide installation please unpack the .oxt packages (= .zip)
into the directory: /opt/libreoffice/share/extensions/

or do it with a simple script:

#9

Thanks Joachim for the information.

I just hope that if users need to install dictionaries that they will be accessible to them through the "Tools -> Language -> Install dictionaries". This does NOT lead users to the dictionaries page. It leads them to the: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List?lang=en site where there are NO dictionaries available except for a very few (2-3). The real download site for now is: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries?cid=926385

Marc

#10

"Marc Paré" <marc@marcpare.com> wrote in message news:idm0o7$4gm$1@dough.gmane.org...

It doesn't work on my copy of LO 3.3RC1 on my Mandriva 2010.1 boxes (all
3). I downloaded the EN-UK and FR language packs but the dictionaries
did not work.

I then downloaded the dictionaries from here:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries?cid=926385 and
loaded them through the extension manager. The loaded dictionaries now
all work as they should.

Please distinguish:

* spelling check (sometimes + thesaurus): e.g. dict-de_DE_*.oxt
                                                 dict-fr_FR_*.oxt

* grammar check (for many languages): extension-languagetool package
                                          or LanguageTool_*.oxt

For systemwide installation please unpack the .oxt packages (= .zip)
into the directory: /opt/libreoffice/share/extensions/

or do it with a simple script:

---------------------------------------------------------------
> #!/bin/bash
>
> INST=/opt/libreoffice/share/extensions/language-grammar-tool
> unzip LanguageTool*.oxt -d ${INST}
---------------------------------------------------------------

After all please logout and login (perhaps twice) and all should run.
I have tested it - it runs for me.

Have a nice day,

Joachim (Germany)

Thanks Joachim for the information.

I just hope that if users need to install dictionaries that they will be accessible to them through the "Tools -> Language -> Install dictionaries". This does NOT lead users to the dictionaries page. It leads them to the: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List?lang=en site where there are NO dictionaries available except for a very few (2-3). The real download site for now is: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries?cid=926385

Marc

Perhaps I'm being naive or overly simplistic but why are extensions for LibreOffice to be found on an OpenOffice.org web site?

#11

Because extensions use the UNO API which is the same for OpenOffice.org
and LibreOffice.

#12

The extensions repository on the LibreOffice site is not live yet and OpenOffice and LibreOffice can use the same extensions. There are plans for an "Extensions" repository on the final Drupal LibreOffice website.

Marc

#13

i read the link, thank you. i am using the deb packages and it seems that
dictionaries are not part of the Libreoffice RC1 package..this is because, if I
read the link right, Linux provides system wide dictionaries.

I find this to be true for the deb packages, I installed myspell from Debians
repository, (use a package manager not LO extension manager) and I have a
dictionary to check spelling. The spell checking was working but no dict to
search.

#14

Hi Greg,

Sigrid Carrera wrote:

[...]

i read the link, thank you.      i am using the deb packages and it seems that
dictionaries are not part of the Libreoffice RC1 package..this is because, if I
read the link right, Linux provides system wide dictionaries.

I find this to be true for the deb packages, I installed myspell from Debians
repository, (use a package manager not LO extension manager) and I have a
dictionary to check spelling. The spell checking was working but no dict to
search.

That sounds logical - and in fact, my mandriva installation has
systemwide dictionaries. I have aspell and myspell installed myself.
But still, LibO didn't use them, the spellcheck was non-functioning.

So, if your assumption is true, then there has to be changed
something, because if I have spellcheck enabled, it should work.

Sigrid

#15

Thanks for helping out.

I have been advised on the developer's list (Michael Meeks) to add this as a bug and label it as a possible "stopper" for RC1. You can find the submission here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32235 .

Marc