LibreOffice write extremely slow to load document with lots of linked pictures

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#1

Hi,

When I load an MS Word document containing a lot of linked pictures (all on wordpress.org) in LibreOffice it takes over 2 minutes to load.
Loading the same document in MS Word takes a few seconds.

The difference seems to be that LibreOffice is issuing at least four (and in some cases many more) WebDAV requests for each image, whereas MS Word does a single GET for each image.
Each round trip to wordpress.org is taking up to 1s.

Is this a known issue?
Is there any way to turn off WebDAV in LibreOffice?

Thanks.

Jim

#2

Let me get this straight. You are loading a document that has its images location online? Is there a specific reason for that option? To be honest, when I was using MSO in both industry and education, I never heard of that being done. From my point of view with working with documents that contain images, it would be better to have the images stored locally, instead of having to go online to deal with loading them.

Now here is an option to look at that might help it a little. It involves the "many pictures" part of your description of the document.

Go to Tools>Options>Memory

You will need to increase the "Graphics cache" options.

Increase the "Use for LibreOffice" to its max of 256 MB.

Increase "Memory per object" to 20 MB or more.

Increase "Remove from memory after" to double the amount of time you think you will be spending on editing the document.

Then increase the "Number of objects" to 10 or 20 more than the number of images you have in your document.

This will help keep the images viewed and on your local system, instead of needing to go mack to the online source[s] to re-view the images withing you document.

The load times may be reduced somewhat by this, hopefully.

As for the single/multi "GET" part of the loading of the document, I have no idea what the internals are for LO. I just use it and make some English Dictionaries/Thesaurus extensions for it.
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#3

Hi Jim,

Jim Talbut wrote (09-11-11 10:23)

[...]
The difference seems to be that LibreOffice is issuing at least four
(and in some cases many more) WebDAV requests for each image, whereas
MS Word does a single GET for each image. Each round trip to
wordpress.org is taking up to 1s.

Is this a known issue? Is there any way to turn off WebDAV in
LibreOffice?

I am quite confident that developers will be interested in this.
You may either want to create a bug:
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
or - if you have some input direct for the code - to the developers list:
   http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice

Thanks for posting.

#4

Platform: Win7 SP1 64-bit
LibreOffice 3.4.3 release (though I have had this problem with OpenOffice and LibreOffice since I started using Win7)

If I do File > Open and open a document from there (which isn't in the default documents folder), then close LibreOffice, re-start it and do File > Open again, it opens the location that I went to for the previous document. The same applies for the save dialog. My workaround at present is to enable 'use libreoffice dialogs' in Tools > Options, but that is quite a feature-light UI in comparison.

It doesn't matter whether I use Writer, Calc or Impress. Also, if I start by using Writer but close LO and move on to say Impress, then Impress remembers the path I last loaded/saved in with Writer.

I've also seen this behaviour on more than one fresh install Win7 64-bit / OpenOffice / LibreOffice, and while I haven't tested it for this behaviour on every OS install I've done that includes Open/LibreOffice, on every one I've tested it, it had the problem.

Is there an option somewhere to control this behaviour?

#5

I wish to comment on this issue. It' more in the nature of how to design the UI rather than a defect in the Suite. I used MSO both in corporate environments and personally for many years. Rarely did I use M$'s "My Documents" as the storage location for any document. In MSO, it is "My Documents" that is the default location for any "File Open" or "File Save" operation. MSO insistence on having "My Documents" be the default location was a universal hindrance. We in IT constantly struggled to thwart it. The most we could do was redirect it to a networked share.

It is not clear in Mike's posting what exactly he would like the behavior to be. I would hope Mike is not requesting the M$ paradigm. I prefer the existing behavior in LO.

Mike's suggestion about "an option somewhere to control this behaviour?" is very worthy. Some will like the "My Documents" paradigm; me, not so much.

I most frequently use the "Recent Documents" list within LO. The 10 listed items there are just right historical coverage.

Respectfully blustering,

#6

Hi :slight_smile:
I couldn't find a setting in
Tools - Options - Load/Save
and i hunted around in the other pages in there too.  It might be worth posting a bug-report and put "wishlist" in the subject-line along with a couple of words to describe it.

I really like the default but it might be nice to have a choice of being able to change that.  Perhaps googling it might give a good link?  There might be a blog or guide or something written for OpenOffice and that would probably work in LibreOffice too.

Sorry i haven't been particularly helpful!  I guess try posting a bug-report as a wishlist item and then if you find a better answer you could always give the link and close the report. 
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#7

Hi :slight_smile: I couldn't find a setting in Tools - Options - Load/Save

Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General:

"use LibreOffice dialogs"

and i hunted around in the other pages in there too. It might be
worth posting a bug-report and put "wishlist" in the subject-line
along with a couple of words to describe it.

I really like the default but it might be nice to have a choice of
being able to change that. Perhaps googling it might give a good
link? There might be a blog or guide or something written for
OpenOffice and that would probably work in LibreOffice too.

Which behaviour are you seeing (and what OS), out of curiosity?

Sorry i haven't been particularly helpful! I guess try posting a
bug-report as a wishlist item and then if you find a better answer
you could always give the link and close the report. Regards from Tom
:slight_smile:

From: David S. Crampton<david_crampton@ie2b.com> Subject: Re:
[libreoffice-users] Problem: LibreOffice remembers the last folder I
was in (open/save dialog) To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date:
Wednesday, 9 November, 2011, 15:57

I wish to comment on this issue. It' more in the nature of how to
design the UI rather than a defect in the Suite. I used MSO both in
corporate environments and personally for many years. Rarely did I
use M$'s "My Documents" as the storage location for any document. In
MSO, it is "My Documents" that is the default location for any "File
Open" or "File Save" operation. MSO insistence on having "My
Documents" be the default location was a universal hindrance. We in
IT constantly struggled to thwart it. The most we could do was
redirect it to a networked share.

It is not clear in Mike's posting what exactly he would like the
behavior to be. I would hope Mike is not requesting the M$ paradigm.
I prefer the existing behavior in LO.

Mike's suggestion about "an option somewhere to control this
behaviour?" is very worthy. Some will like the "My Documents"
paradigm; me, not so much.

I most frequently use the "Recent Documents" list within LO. The 10
listed items there are just right historical coverage.

Respectfully blustering, --David S. Crampton

Platform: Win7 SP1 64-bit LibreOffice 3.4.3 release (though I have
had this problem with OpenOffice and LibreOffice since I started
using Win7)

If I do File> Open and open a document from there (which isn't in
the default documents folder), then close LibreOffice, re-start it
and do File> Open again, it opens the location that I went to for
the previous document. The same applies for the save dialog. My
workaround at present is to enable 'use libreoffice dialogs' in
> Options, but that is quite a feature-light UI in
comparison.

It doesn't matter whether I use Writer, Calc or Impress. Also, if
I start by using Writer but close LO and move on to say Impress,
then Impress remembers the path I last loaded/saved in with
Writer.

I've also seen this behaviour on more than one fresh install Win7
64-bit / OpenOffice / LibreOffice, and while I haven't tested it
for this behaviour on every OS install I've done that includes
Open/LibreOffice, on every one I've tested it, it had the problem.

Is there an option somewhere to control this behaviour?

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#8

I wish to comment on this issue. It' more in the nature of how to design
the UI rather than a defect in the Suite. I used MSO both in corporate
environments and personally for many years. Rarely did I use M$'s "My
Documents" as the storage location for any document. In MSO, it is "My
Documents" that is the default location for any "File Open" or "File Save"
operation. MSO insistence on having "My Documents" be the default location
was a universal hindrance. We in IT constantly struggled to thwart it. The
most we could do was redirect it to a networked share.

It is not clear in Mike's posting what exactly he would like the behavior
to be. I would hope Mike is not requesting the M$ paradigm. I prefer the
existing behavior in LO.

I was under the impression that the behaviour I'm seeing with LO on Win7 was a bug, as it didn't happen for me at all on WinXP. So to begin with, what you refer to as the MS paradigm is what I'm used to, partly through using MSO and partly through OO/LO on <Win7. I'm not implying what I think the behaviour ought to be in this paragraph btw, just stating how I'm used to things.

When using the LO dialogs, trying to open a document or save a new one opens the default documents folder.

I've previously asked for help when I was using OpenOffice, and it seemed to be the case that some people were seeing the same behaviour that I was and others weren't:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=104648&highlight=

If the behaviour I'm seeing is the intended behaviour, then an option to configure that behaviour between 'default documents folder' and 'last used folder' would be much appreciated.

#9

Hi :slight_smile:
Errr, either Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 but sometimes Xp, all 32bit.  In the Save or Open dialogue boxes there is a panel on the left that has either places or a tree/explorer/folders.  Can you bookmark/favourites the main folders you use so that they show-up in there easily?
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#10

Mike,

I fully agree that it should be made as an optional behavior. I don't know how to submit that idea. As a "feature request" perhaps in Bugzilla?

#11

Hi :slight_smile:
I think just post a normal bug-report but in the subject-line add
"[wish-list]" or "[feature request]" just to make it clear.

I find LO works very much better if the document and the pictures are all
stored on the same volume/partition on my local machine. I have tried
ramping the memory settings up but it still doesn't work as smoothly as when
all the stuff is together. Also there is a noticeable difference for me
when i use one of the nicer machines at work rather than the ancient
antiques. On one of the antiques i kept getting a "broken links" or
"picture is broken and can't be displayed" or something like that. On the
newer machines there was no problem. Hmmm, i haven't tried messing with the
memory settings on the antiques tbh.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#12

Cor,

I wonder it these are related:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42684
[FILEOPEN very slow, it takes about 15 minutes]
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32640
[LibreOffice localized as BrOffice (auto) takes a long time to start]

Note: I've given the author of 42684 instructions on how to install LO
3.3.4 on his Ubuntu 11.10 system. Hopefully he'll be able to do that &
test to see if there is a regression between 3.3 and 3.4.

Gary

#13

Hi Gary,

NoOp wrote (10-11-11 22:31)

I wonder it these are related:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42684
[FILEOPEN very slow, it takes about 15 minutes]
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32640
[LibreOffice localized as BrOffice (auto) takes a long time to start]

Note: I've given the author of 42684 instructions on how to install LO
3.3.4 on his Ubuntu 11.10 system. Hopefully he'll be able to do that&
test to see if there is a regression between 3.3 and 3.4.

Really looks promising, to find some traces at least.
Thanks for finding & posting :slight_smile: