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I made a 'template' in LO for an A3 leaflet with a background image (page style) on the first page. No margins, but with boxes with text, table and images on top of it.
Everything works fine in LO, and also if exported as PDF.
But when saved as .doc the entire background image is gone.
Any ideas about what happens?
Can't you use background images in Word?
So far the client has to use the pdf ...
The problem is the same as it always has been: a file created by one program does not always look the same when viewed in another program. This has been known to happen even in different versions of Word. PDF was designed to prevent this problem, so I doubt that it is a matter of the client "has to use ..." but rather is a good choice.
Specifically, Word uses background images in different way than LibreOffice. As a test, I opened an .odt file using Abiword which is suppose to use ODF formats. It had some graphics that Abiword rendered as small thumbnails. It had a numbered list that covered several paragraphs. Abiword put them into a single paragraph while wrapping text.
--Dan
How have you determined that the background image has disappeared? Have you (or has your client) opened the .doc file in genuine Microsoft Word or in the freeware (Windows only) Word viewer? Or have you just reopened the .doc file in LibreOffice and found the background absent there? I think there may be circumstances where the .doc file does retain the background but this is not converted correctly when reopened in LibreOffice.
Note also that the Background tab of the Page Style dialogue (where you selected the background graphic) has a "Link" box. If you tick this, the graphic is linked and not embedded, and there may be problems when you transfer the file to another file system - e.g. your client's - where the original image file does not exist separately at the same absolute file path. Try unticking that box. (But I'm not sure that will make any difference.)
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker
I made a 'template' in LO for an A3 leaflet with a background image (page style) on the first page. No margins, but with boxes with text, table and images on top of it.
Everything works fine in LO, and also if exported as PDF.
But when saved as .doc the entire background image is gone.Any ideas about what happens?
Can't you use background images in Word?So far the client has to use the pdf ...
The problem is the same as it always has been: a file created by one program does not always look the same when viewed in another program. This has been known to happen even in different versions of Word. PDF was designed to prevent this problem, so I doubt that it is a matter of the client "has to use ..." but rather is a good choice.
They actually have Acrobat XI (or whatever it is called, as they wasn't sure what they had..), but they don't know how to use it.
The idea was that they should be able to reuse the front/back background images, logo etc on all their leaflets.
Specifically, Word uses background images in different way than LibreOffice. As a test, I opened an .odt file using Abiword which is suppose to use ODF formats. It had some graphics that Abiword rendered as small thumbnails. It had a numbered list that covered several paragraphs. Abiword put them into a single paragraph while wrapping text.
Earlier this week I used Word for the first time in many years, and I must say that I do not think it has evolved in a good way. No wonder that so few of the .doc files I receive are using styles instead of directly formatted text. I never was a Word fan (I loved Ami Pro before Lotus destroyed it) , but I think it was better earlier.
I'm not at all a fan of this lists unusual Reply-To usage 
W dniu 07.11.2012 16:00, Bjørn K Nilssen pisze:
I made a 'template' in LO for an A3 leaflet with a background image (page style) on the first page. No margins, but with boxes with text, table and images on top of it.
Everything works fine in LO, and also if exported as PDF.
But when saved as .doc the entire background image is gone.Any ideas about what happens?
Can't you use background images in Word?So far the client has to use the pdf ...
There is still problem with export to doc - many times the GFX is lost, or style/font changed in part of text. The situation in weird because the Word from M$O 2010 can read&write in both format and the document always looks the same.
Mieszko
W dniu 07.11.2012 16:00, Bjørn K Nilssen pisze:
I made a 'template' in LO for an A3 leaflet with a background image (page style) on the first page. No margins, but with boxes with text, table and images on top of it.
Everything works fine in LO, and also if exported as PDF.
But when saved as .doc the entire background image is gone.Any ideas about what happens?
Can't you use background images in Word?So far the client has to use the pdf ...
There is still problem with export to doc - many times the GFX is lost, or style/font changed in part of text. The situation in weird because the Word from M$O 2010 can read&write in both format and the document always looks the same.
Apparently thhere is a problem somewhere.
This particular document could in fact be opened in Word both as .doc and .odt file, but the background image was missing in both versions.
Only LO can 'see' the background image in the .odt file.
Hi 
Perhaps the problem is in Word? There are a few different options.
1. Tell the client that Writer is more of a desktop publishing package than Word and allows greater sophistication in layout. Then give the client the link so they can download and install LibreOffice on their systems.
2. Post a bug-report against Word and see the response from MS. (I don't think it is possible for non-MS staff to post bug-reports about MS products but it might be).
3. Word doesn't support all the different types of Anchor points for images and also might not support the wrap options and layering. I suspect it's the Anchor Point that is creating the problem this time. Right-click on the image and change the Anchor Point from "To Page" to something Word can handle such as "To Paragraph". You might then need to re-position the image.
Regards from
Tom
Hi
Perhaps the problem is in Word? There are a few different options.
1. Tell the client that Writer is more of a desktop publishing package than Word and allows greater sophistication in layout. Then give the client the link so they can download and install LibreOffice on their systems.
Well, the fact that LO can't read the .doc with the background in place doesn't make it likely that the .doc file is kosher?
BTW, they are not allowed to install anything by themselves, so I guess LO is out of the question there.
Unless they could get a permission ie...
2. Post a bug-report against Word and see the response from MS. (I don't think it is possible for non-MS staff to post bug-reports about MS products but it might be).
3. Word doesn't support all the different types of Anchor points for images and also might not support the wrap options and layering. I suspect it's the Anchor Point that is creating the problem this time. Right-click on the image and change the Anchor Point from "To Page" to something Word can handle such as "To Paragraph". You might then need to re-position the image.
Maybe it's the anchoring then?
I used anchor-to-page.
What are the allowed anchor types in Word then?
Regards
Hi
Word definitely allows "Anchor to Paragraph" but not the better choice for this sort of thing which was the one you chose. "Anchor to Page" makes a mess in Word.
Sorry chap, i thought the .doc was created in LO and then wouldn't display properly in Word. Each version of Word has a slightly different implementation of the .doc format. It helps push people into buying the same version that the majority of people they do business with use, and then pushes them into upgrading around the time everyone else does too. It has settled down a lot now that it's not the main format being pushed by MS which is why it's such a great one to use to share documents at the moment. Odt will eventually take over but it might take a while.
It is possible to pseudo-install LibreOffice on a usb-stick so that you can use your version with your settings on any machine you plug the stick into (assuming it's running some variant of Windows)
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable/
There are quite a few OpenSource apps that can be pseudo installed in this way so that they don't really touch the system much and don't raise any flags with the IT Department.
Regards from
Tom
Hi
+1
You do get a little more used to it but it's still a pita
Regards from
Tom
W dniu 08.11.2012 11:17, Bjørn K Nilssen pisze:
I made a 'template' in LO for an A3 leaflet with a background image (page style) on the first page. No margins, but with boxes with text, table and images on top of it.
Everything works fine in LO, and also if exported as PDF.
But when saved as .doc the entire background image is gone.Any ideas about what happens?
Can't you use background images in Word?So far the client has to use the pdf ...
There is still problem with export to doc - many times the GFX is lost, or style/font changed in part of text. The situation in weird because the Word from M$O 2010 can read&write in both format and the document always looks the same.
Apparently thhere is a problem somewhere.
This particular document could in fact be opened in Word both as .doc and .odt file, but the background image was missing in both versions.
Only LO can 'see' the background image in the .odt file.
No - in *.DOC file the GFX is missing - both Writer and Word can read IMG. Also the size of the *.DOC file is smaller. There has to be error in LO export part.
Mieszko