LO Writer won't let me manually hyphenate a name.

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#1

I've got a name 'Bruinsma' that LO wants to hyphenate between the 'u' and the 'i'. I'm trying to get it to hyphenate between the 'n' and the 's'. LO won't let me. I go to tools->language->hyphenation with the word highlighted, but there's no way I can get it to move the hyphen. If I put my cursor where I want it to hyphenate and click 'hyphenate', it just closes the dialog and leaves the hyphen in the original place. There also doesn't seem to be a way to tell LO not to hyphenate that word at all.

As I read the manuals, I should be able to just use 'ctrl plus -' to manually place a hyphen. But this doesn't work either.

Using LO Version: 4.2.8.2
Build ID: 4.2.8.2-6.fc20

What am I missing?

Thanks.

#2

This sort of thing is _exactly_ why I won't use LO or AOO!

--doug

#3

I've got a name 'Bruinsma' that LO wants to hyphenate between the 'u' and
the 'i'. I'm trying to get it to hyphenate between the 'n' and the 's'. LO
won't let me. I go to tools->language->hyphenation with the word
highlighted, but there's no way I can get it to move the hyphen. If I put
my cursor where I want it to hyphenate and click 'hyphenate', it just
closes the dialog and leaves the hyphen in the original place. There also
doesn't seem to be a way to tell LO not to hyphenate that word at all.

As I read the manuals, I should be able to just use 'ctrl plus -' to
manually place a hyphen. But this doesn't work either.

Using LO Version: 4.2.8.2
Build ID: 4.2.8.2-6.fc20

What am I missing?

Eric: If you use 'ctrl plus -' to insert an optional hyphen before the 'u', does it take effect? If you put it after the place where LO already wants to hyphenate, it makes sense that it won't have an effect, unless you turn off automatic hyphenation in the paragraph style.

Thanks.

This sort of thing is _exactly_ why I won't use LO or AOO!

--doug

Doug: So why exactly are you on this list?

- Robert

#4

Here is a what I saw.

  * I enter the word bruinsma
  * place cursor between 'n' & 's'
  * CTRL + '-'

nothing happens. However if I add text which pushes that word to straddle 2 lines, a hyphen appears between 'n' & 's' and stays in the word for the foreseeable.

Is this what you are attempting? To hyphenate when a word crosses the line boundary?

4.4.1.2 from the LO website and Fedora 21 BTW

Cheers

#5

On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:26:26 -0400
Eric Beversluis <ebever@researchintegration.org> dijo:

I've got a name 'Bruinsma' that LO wants to hyphenate between the 'u'
and the 'i'. I'm trying to get it to hyphenate between the 'n' and the
's'. LO won't let me. I go to tools->language->hyphenation with the
word highlighted, but there's no way I can get it to move the hyphen.
If I put my cursor where I want it to hyphenate and click 'hyphenate',
it just closes the dialog and leaves the hyphen in the original place.
There also doesn't seem to be a way to tell LO not to hyphenate that
word at all.

As I read the manuals, I should be able to just use 'ctrl plus -' to
manually place a hyphen. But this doesn't work either.

I don't know the answer to your question, but I'd like to point out
that in traditional typesetting proper names are not hyphenated.

I have LO 4.2.7.2 on Xubuntu and Ctrl - does add a hyphen in 'Bruinsma'
as you wanted it to do. And the name does break on the optional hyphen
when I add text to force it beyond the end of the line.

Do I assume correctly that otherwise hyphenation is working as expected?

#6

thanks. I tried what Tim suggested. It then will break after 'Bruin' until I enter more characters. Then it breaks after 'Bru'. So it wasn't that the manual break wasn't working--it was insisting on breaking automatically before it got to the manual break.

So I need some way to stop it from breaking after 'Bru' when it wants to do that. Either only let it break after 'Bruin' or keep it from breaking altogether, as John suggested. But I don't want to turn off automatic hyphenating for the entire paragraph style.

It looks like there's a method for preventing hyphenation in the name altogether--in 'writing aids' under options, by adding the word to a dictionary followed by '='.That seems to have done it.

I think I've also finally found how to prevent auto hyphenating at undesired points (like 'Bru-')--certainly not intuitive: inserting 'No width no break'.

Thanks for the suggestions.

#7

Hi Eric,

Eric Beversluis schrieb:

thanks. I tried what Tim suggested. It then will break after 'Bruin'
until I enter more characters. Then it breaks after 'Bru'. So it wasn't
that the manual break wasn't working--it was insisting on breaking
automatically before it got to the manual break.

So I need some way to stop it from breaking after 'Bru' when it wants to
do that. Either only let it break after 'Bruin' or keep it from breaking
altogether, as John suggested. But I don't want to turn off automatic
hyphenating for the entire paragraph style.

You can set the language to "none" for such name. If no language is set, then there exist no rules for hyphenation and only your soft hyphen will determine hyphenation.

Kind regards
Regina