localization of ui in traditional mongolian

l10n
#1

I'm now working on libreoffice user interface localization in traditional Mongolian, and I followed this wiki
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide/Adding_a_New_Language_or_Locale
built libreoffice with traditional Mongolian resource ,but on windows10 ,traditional Mongolian translation of ui is empty ,on windows7 is tofo.Can someone tell me where is the problem?

#2

Hi,

I'm now working on libreoffice user interface localization in
traditional Mongolian, and I followed this wiki
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide/Adding_a_New_Language_or_Locale

built libreoffice with traditional Mongolian resource ,but on windows10
,traditional Mongolian translation of ui is empty ,on windows7 is
tofo.Can someone tell me where is the problem?

I see that Jan has answered you on how to build with your l10n on the
dev@list. Hope that solve your issue :slight_smile:
Kind regards
Sophie

#3

I think the problem is something entirely different. Traditional Mongolian requires a top-to bottom layout of the UI (a bit like classical Chinese which was top-to-bottom and right-to-left) and the UI is not equipped to do that. In effect, you'd have to have the toolbar at the left hand edge of the screen with the menus coming out to the right, a bit like this

F N O
i e p
l w e
e n

See http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Test/Mongolian.html for some samples.

There are several bugs filed regarding traditional Mongolian script
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=mongolian

in particular this one seems relevant
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61846&redirected_from=fdo
but it doesn't seem to show much progress

Michael

Sgrìobh Sophie na leanas 27/10/2016 aig 15:59:

#4

Traditional Mongolian, as in the modified Arabic that is written vertically?

Or do you mean the modified Arabic that is written horizontally, right
to left?

Or do you mean the Cyrillic writing system, when used for writing Mongolian?

jonathon

#5

It's not Arabic, it's a variant of Old Uyghur. And I'm pretty sure that's the one he means, the top-to-bottom one.

Michael

Sgrìobh jonathon na leanas 27/10/2016 aig 18:23:

#6

It's not Arabic, it's a variant of Old Uyghur.

Mea culpa.
I've been playing with Arabic for the last week.

And I'm pretty sure that's the one he means,

What font will be used?

More significantly, when did LibO change its display engine to correct
display that writing system?

jonathon

#7

Hi Jonathon, all,

It's not Arabic, it's a variant of Old Uyghur.

Mea culpa.
I've been playing with Arabic for the last week.

And I'm pretty sure that's the one he means,

What font will be used?

More significantly, when did LibO change its display engine to correct
display that writing system?

The discussion is on-going on the dev list, see:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/localization-of-ui-td4198350.html

Cheers
Sophie

#8

Sgrìobh jonathon na leanas 28/10/2016 aig 15:57:

Mea culpa.
I've been playing with Arabic for the last week.

No worries

What font will be used?

Pass

More significantly, when did LibO change its display engine to correct
display that writing system?

Looking at the buglist I pulled of Bugzilla (see my post from yesterday or search Bugzilla for 'Mongolian'), it hasn't. I think what *may* be working is the horizontal display of text content but it's in effect displaying the text turned at 90°. And I think that's the reason his build isn't working cause even if the translation is in the right script etc in the po files, I'm sure that during building that just gets jumbled somehow.

Waiting for him to respond we are, I think.

Michael

#9

Thanks Sophie - I'm not on that list though I'm afraid, I'm on too many as is :smiley: But they seem to be getting there too.

Michael

Sgrìobh Sophie na leanas 28/10/2016 aig 16:10:

#10

That's why I sent the link, you can follow/post from Nabble and don't
have to subscribe to yet another list :slight_smile:
Cheers
Sophie

#11

Oh... I didn't know that. Just learnt something, thanks Sophie!

Michael

Sgrìobh Sophie na leanas 28/10/2016 aig 16:34:

#12

Vertical Mongolian works just fine, but the lines are ordered from right
to left (like vertical CJK) but for Mongolian they should be from left
to right.

Regards,
Khaled