m$ and munich

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#1

Is there a trail of money between m$ and munich?

https://diasp.eu/posts/5166693

#2

​I know of no evidence, but if one is adept at avoiding taxes, money can be
saved to use for other purposes :
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/02/10/how-microsoft-avoided-billions-in-taxes-and-what-the-gop-says-theyll-do-about-it/…
…

Henri

#3

Well, from what I know, Microsoft moved offices from the area outside Munich into the town.
Whether this had an influence on the decision of the city council? God only knows;-)...

#4

If they pay more taxes to the city, then there might be a deal to not ask for a "tax discount" if the city uses M$ products.

In my city and county [in USA] a big reason we get business is due to the governments involved will give then some reduced taxes, or tax free, for a number of years. They do this to help the area employ more people who need the type of work offered. Now we have an arena that needs a new owner or we loose a lot of events along with our hockey teem. The new buyer wants the city and county to replace the "ice plant" at a cost of 1.5 million dollars or it is no deal.

So if M$ moves into the city, there has to be some advantage to M$, since I bet that the property taxes are higher than the old location.

#5

You guys are missing something here. I don't have the link, but I read a
news report on this (in The Guardian perhaps) which said that what had
happened was that has been a group of conservatives in city government who
have been opposed to the switch to opensource from the start have assumed
leadership in the government. This change appears to be happening because
they are now calling the shots.

Tom

#6

​Tom, there have been a plethora of articles on München's decision to
switch back to Microsoft, and one of the important factors seems indeed to
have been a change in the municipal administration. But from what I
understand it was not a new «conservative» ​

#7

You guys are missing something here. I don't have the link, but I
read a news report on this (in The Guardian perhaps) which said that
what had happened was that has been a group of conservatives in city
government who have been opposed to the switch to opensource from the
start have assumed leadership in the government. This change appears
to be happening because they are now calling the shots.

Tom

yes and the register says there's a faction claiming the cost issues
are just from bad IT management and this is an ass-covering exercise.

d

#8

Excellent! Thanks for the correction. Sometimes, because I read so much
every day, I get things wrong. It sure appears that I did so in this case.
~Tom

#9

Just for completeness...
The major of Munich is a social democrat (SPD), his first deputy (CSU -
i.e. conservative), second deputy SPD. This is not to contradict what Tom
says, because the "top notches" don't necessarily call the game - at least
not in THIS part of the world. On the other hand, M$ located WITHIN the
city does mean more tax income and additional jobs, an argument that is
hard to ignore...
Don't misunderstand me: I am by no means a fan of M$ (having worked for
IBM and thus experiencing Bill Gates at his best!!), and having been a loyal,
very satisfied user of Linux, LibreOffice, etc., etc., for lots of years...
H. Stoellinger, Salzburg, Austria

#10

Well in the USA are new president and the federal government are Republicans in charge.

We are in charge so we tell you and the world this is what we are going to do, even if it causing a lot of havoc.

But to be realistic, a lot of what "they" want to do cannot happen or could if you force people to accept reduction of many of the regulations that help keep people healthy and other things.

The same goes on with all countries that are ruled by one party, or by a government that is to the far left or far right. This goes on at all levels of the governments. We are in power now, finally, and everything we could not do before now will be done, whether is is for the best for the people they serve.