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Hi
I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!
Each version of Windows had a different set of "core" fonts. I am a "font person" so I should know this. I have over 100,000 of them in my collection.
Do you want to install the core fonts on you Ubuntu system? I run both 10.04 and 12.04.
If you go to the Synaptic Package Manager and type in "ms core fonts", you get something like
"ttf-mscorefonts-installer"
That is what shows on my 10.04 system I use as my default one, which I am typing from here.
Install that and you get the "core" fonts that seem to be used by most of the Windows versions from XP to Win7. Since I tend to have 200+ fonts installed on both my Windows and Ubuntu systems, I have lost track of the names of the current "core fonts". There are references to them in lists, along with the core fonts for MacOSX, but you do not need to know those names and matching fonts between systems unless you do some font choosing in a web site's CSS theme. I use to do that.
SO,
if you want to have your Ubuntu system include the "core" fonts that MS thinks you need, then install that "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package. It is all you may need as far as MS is concerned. BUT, if you really need some decorative fonts of specialty ones, I may have most of the free ones that were available as of 2-3 years back. I really have not looked for many new ones lately.
Synaptics package manager is available from the software center or is
there a suitable "sudo get-apt install" code?
on the amount of fonts you have that's insane! that must be close to
10gb worth of them!
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 23:23:35 +0200
Anthony Easthope <antisocky@myopera.com> dijo:
I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help
me on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!
If you're on Ubuntu there is a package that installs the Microsoft core
fonts. I can't remember the exact name, but a search in Synaptic
package manager should reveal the package name.
You can also install all of your old fonts with a single drag and drop.
Fonts available for a single user can be installed in ~/.fonts*. Just
drag them into the folder.
*Since I gather you are relatively new to Linux, "~/" is shorthand for
the user's home folder. For example, my username is jjj, so ~/
means /home/jjj/.
If you don't have a ~/.fonts folder, just create it. Note the period in
front of the folder. In Linux "dot files" are invisible unless the user
turns on "show invisible files and folders."
You are using Ubuntu 12.04 plus Unity?
It should be in the software center under administration or something like that. I use Ubuntu 12.04 with MATE as my desktop environment instead of GNOME 3 or Unity.
Any package manager should give you the installer file.
Even typing in "mscore" or "ms core" in the Software Center should give you the package you need to install.
I just checked just that with my 12.04 system and it worked fine, once I typed the search correctly in Ubuntu's Software Center.
Hi
I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!
The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:
sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer
The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings
If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.
Kind regards
Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
Hi 
There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit. In this case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get the right fonts
Regards from
Tom
Hi
There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit. In this case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get the right fonts
Regards from
Tom
Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
Synaptic pre-installed.
Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
and I think a few fonts were missing as well.
Kind regards
Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
Here is the page for ms core fonts for Ubuntu 12.04:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
Synaptic needed to be manually installed starting about 11.04.
Don
If you type in
mscorefonts
in the software center search block, it is available there.
Hi
I found the name for Ubuntu 10.04, so the command would be:
sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
and installing Synaptic Package Manager would be:
sudo apt-get install synaptic
but i agree with Johnny that it sounds like Ubuntu 12.04 and i suspect he has checked the exactly right name already. Generally i find Synaptic useful for looking up things when i am not totally sure of the name of the thing. It searches in package descriptions as well as titles so you can be pretty vague with searches. Then it's easy to pick and choose (although probably ignore all the packages starting with "lib..." so just scroll through them fast).
The command-line is easiest when giving advice to people because it's pretty much identical across all the different distros although some families-of-distros use alternatives to apt-get. I think those alternatives use similar tags and, of course, the package names tend to be the same, for example libreoffice is called the same thing in all afaik.
Regards from
Tom
The key was to find the core fonts package first.
Yes, I see your point with using the terminal for doing the installation of packages, but you need to know what those packages are.
Also, if you use a package manager, or the Software Center, you can search for the packages and install them from there without needing to get the "spelling" of the package correct. Some people, like me, can have problems typing at times. My fingers do not always work correctly and I rely on my spell checker to catch things. So with a package manager or software center, you do no need to worry about typing in a command in the terminal correctly.
Then there are the differences with the desktop environments. For 12.04 I have used Unity, GNOME 3, and MATE for desktop environments. I prefer MATE. IT works more like the GNOME DE that in used by Ubuntu 10.04, better than the options in GNOME 3.
So once the OP knew that he could use a single package to install the "small core" of MS fonts, and then know what it is, it is up to the user to decide what if the easiest way to install it. When I search for a package, it is easier for me to install it with the package manager or the software center, instead of using that info and type the proper commands in the terminal.
IF I am given a terminal command where I can cut/paste [say from a web page or an email], then it can be easy for me to use the terminal option. cut/paste was how I "typed in" the commands to install MATE on my 12.04 laptop.
This link that was in a posting
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
was listed as the core fonts for the web.
This list has a few other fonts in their list of MS core fonts for the web.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_fonts_for_the_Web
This link shows which core fonts are on both MS systems and Mac systems.
http://web.nickshanks.com/fonts/microsoft-core-web-fonts
So that means that there many be more "core fonts" that MS Win7 uses that the user might want to install.
He seem to state that he did not want to do all the work to install all of the fonts he had in his font folder. Well as far as I an thinking, it is really easy to install a block of fonts. All you need to do is place them in a folder, highlight them like you we going to copy them to another folder, then just do a right-click and open them with the default font viewer. Then just click on the "install" button for each font. I is an easy way to get them installed properly in the .fonts hidden folder. At least it is the easiest way I found.
The real kicker is for the user, any user, to install the fonts that he/she needs for the work he/she need to do.
As stated before, by me and others, you can get free fonts that are very similar to the paid ones of a specific name. All you have to do is look. BUT, if that person is required to work with a specific font for an employer, or other person of authority, then they will have to see if they have those fonts somewhere that they can use for their Ubuntu/Linux work instead of Windows work.
When I take a laptop/desktop and replace the Windows OS that came with it, I copy the fonts that came with the system and then reinstall them when I have Ubuntu installed. That way, I use the fonts that came with the computer. Personally, I feel that if the laptop has the fonts installed, then those fonts can stay installed on the system no matter what the OS changes to.
Hi
+1
Searching is easier in a nice gui package manager such as Synaptic but if you have a good guide to follow it's easier to copy&paste stuff. I would tend to use the "--help" command before following anyone's guidance tho uless i'm happy to hose the system and reinstall the OS. For example
apt-get --help
would reassure me but
sudo --help
might have me worried so i would then have to find out more about the advice.
Which is better? Command-line or nice gui? My answer would have to be that i prefer each of them for different circumstances and use both reasonably often. I prefer using a point&click gui if i can find one reasonably quickly. Probably each person has their own preferences and none are wrong.
Regards from
Tom
The key was to find the core fonts package first.
Yes, I see your point with using the terminal for doing the installation of
packages, but you need to know what those packages are.Also, if you use a package manager, or the Software Center, you can search
for the packages and install them from there without needing to get the
"spelling" of the package correct. Some people, like me, can have problems
typing at times. My fingers do not always work correctly and I rely on my
spell checker to catch things. So with a package manager or software
center, you do no need to worry about typing in a command in the terminal
correctly.
If you get a line to type from a forum or a mailing list like this
one, you don't need to type much:
Highlight the text that you want to type → Ctrl+c → Open a terminal
(by clicking its icon somewhere, or maybe you have a keyboard shortcut
for it, like Super+t in my case, or maybe you start it up with
Gnome-do or similar) → Ctrl+Shift+v (unless you set another shortcut
for pasting in your favourite terminal emulator).
So, as you see, not much typing involved and no risc for spelling
errors, unless the person who gave you the line typed it wrong, of
course.
Kind regards
Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
Hi
I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!
If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7.
I try to keep the same set of "core fonts" - not just MS core web fonts - on all of my computers whether they are Windows or Ubuntu systems. I tend to have over 100 fonts installed on these systems for greater flexability on the look of my documents printer/exported to PDF for distribution. LO's Export to PDF, CUPS PDF printing for Linux, or doPDF PDF printing for Windows.
The font installer, and other fonts software, is a good place to look at specialty fonts that might be used for your documents. I used to use some really "special" ones from time to time, like letters made out of bone or other holiday related fonts.
The core fonts that come with most MS systems, or the MS core font package for Linux, is just a start. You really need to look at all of your options for typography of your documents. Then using a PDF creation method, that embeds those fonts into your document, will make sure that your readers/users of those documents will see your work the way you want it to be seen. LO does a good job with some of the popular fonts, but not as good on the decorative ones I tend to use. That is where CUPS PDF and doPDF "PDF printer software" comes into play. They will embed all of your specialty fonts into your documentation. One day LO's Export to PDF will do that job as good as they do.
As someone who download over 100,000 fonts from free font sites, I can tell you that there are many great looking fonts out there for your text and "special" documents that can be better than the MS core fonts. All you have to do is take the time to look, download, and test some of them side to side with the MS core fonts.
I believe that the correct spelling is synaptic. (It is spelled this way for my Ubuntu 11.10.)
Jay Lozier wrote:
I believe that the correct spelling is synaptic. (It is spelled this way for my Ubuntu 11.10.)
You are correct, I tend to capitalize names even when they are not capitalized.
It is spelled with uppercases when I open them and see its name in the window's title box.
But either way, I use it more than the Software Center.
With my stroked-out typing skills, at times it is much safer to install anything either from a package manager or the software center than it would be typing the commands via the Terminal.
I try to keep the same set of "core fonts" - not just MS core web fonts - on
all of my computers whether they are Windows or Ubuntu systems. I tend to
have over 100 fonts installed on these systems for greater flexability on
the look of my documents printer/exported to PDF for distribution. LO's
Export to PDF, CUPS PDF printing for Linux, or doPDF PDF printing for
Windows.The font installer, and other fonts software, is a good place to look at
specialty fonts that might be used for your documents. I used to use some
really "special" ones from time to time, like letters made out of bone or
other holiday related fonts.The core fonts that come with most MS systems, or the MS core font package
for Linux, is just a start. You really need to look at all of your options
for typography of your documents. Then using a PDF creation method, that
embeds those fonts into your document, will make sure that your
readers/users of those documents will see your work the way you want it to
be seen. LO does a good job with some of the popular fonts, but not as good
on the decorative ones I tend to use. That is where CUPS PDF and doPDF "PDF
printer software" comes into play. They will embed all of your specialty
fonts into your documentation. One day LO's Export to PDF will do that job
as good as they do.As someone who download over 100,000 fonts from free font sites, I can tell
you that there are many great looking fonts out there for your text and
"special" documents that can be better than the MS core fonts. All you have
to do is take the time to look, download, and test some of them side to side
with the MS core fonts.
One big problem, for people like me whose native language is not
English, is that many of those thousands of free fonts miss all
language specific characters, in my case åäöÅÄÖ, characters that are
just as common in my language as most of the other characters in my
alphabet (those characters are real letters and they are not to be
treated as aAoO with some additional stuff above them – they are even
sorted as individual characters, that is not among aA and oO, but
right after zZ). I didn't investigate this very thoroughly, so I don't
know exactly how many of those millions of free fonts that lacks
essential characters for many of the top hundred common languages (my
language reached 77th place in 2009, according to this lisst:
http://frankherles.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-100-most-spoken-languages-on-the-world/)…
But as long as I write in English, this is of course not a problem,
but I almost never do that when I don't write in mailing lists like
this one…
Kind regards
Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ