Moving to Translate extension in the wiki: call for help

ilmari · May 16, 2019, 4:15pm

Hello teams,

as you may know, we are slowly moving to a new wiki translation workflow provided by Translate extension. It offers an experience familiar to us from Pootle and similar systems: translation memory, immediate display of outdated content etc. It is a robust system, having seen 14 years of development.

I thought it would be a crucial step in the migration to stop luring people into creating new translations with the old system. I went through lots of pages that use the OrigLang template and removed it from pages without translations (using a semi-automated technique with JavaScript). A complete list of pages with OrigLang is here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:OrigLang

It then occurred to me that tackling pages with a single translation would be the easiest next step. This email is my call for help to these teams: Arabic, Chinese (simplified), Czech, Danish, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese (Brazil), Russian, Spanish and Turkish. At the end on this email I have included a selection of pages with only a single translation, grouped by language. I have curated the lists, skipping some obsolete stuff, but they are not 100% combed through.

The lists were produced by taking every entry from here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Lang finding the unique ones with some shell scripting and sorting with trusty old Calc at the very end.

Here is a tutorial on using Translate extension on a page:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_example

Adding this element will render a language menu:
<languages />
In the future, we could skip adding the element, though: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2882

The old translations are not lost, when a page is modified to use the new translation system. You can migrate the old ones using this tool: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:PageMigration

On a page using the new system, after you update the content you will see a notice at the top of the page: "This page has changes since it was last marked for translation". Click the link "marked for translation", review the displayed changes and click the button "Mark this version for translation" found at the end of the page.

Here you can see all the pages currently using the new system:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:PageTranslation

Feel free to contact me in public or private in case of any questions.

Ilmari

List of wiki pages with a single translation (do snip it from any replies):

Arabic:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Mentors

Chinese (simplified):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Color_blindness_issues
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/LibORelease
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bibisect/Linux

Czech:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks

Danish:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/General/148
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Vanilla_for_Mac
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bibisect/Bibisectzilla
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bibisect/Implementation

Italian:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2015/Document_Freedom_Day
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-Box/Features
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Role/Invite
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/MailAccounts

Japanese:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Cpp_Unit_Tests
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/EasyHacks
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GetInvolved
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/How_to_build/localized
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install/Windows/Help
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/EventsCalendar
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UI_and_Help_files_Content_Guide

Turkish:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Working_Groups
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Mailing_List
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Environment_variables
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GetInvolved/DeveloperStepByStep/javapython
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Fligran
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Ankara2016
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport/Attachments
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Statistics

sophi · May 17, 2019, 9:12am

Hi Ilmari,

Thanks for your detailed mail and pushing this work softly.

Just a quick question: you've tagged the FR FAQ, but it's the source
language for other translations, so will it still work that way or do we
(FR team) have to create it in English first?

And a note: I guess most of us are rushing to complete there l10n for
6.3, so speaking about me, I won't have time to dedicate to the wiki
pages before that, that mean I aim to finish l10n mid-July. So don't be
disappointed if you see few feedback before July, but be sure I'll help
after
Cheers
Sophie

Hello teams,

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ilmari · May 17, 2019, 10:04am

sophi kirjoitti 17.5.2019 klo 12.12:

Hi Ilmari,

Thanks for your detailed mail and pushing this work softly.

Just a quick question: you've tagged the FR FAQ, but it's the source
language for other translations, so will it still work that way or do we
(FR team) have to create it in English first?

Good question. This requires action from infra: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2883

Ilmari

sophi · May 17, 2019, 10:30am

Great, thanks a lot!
Cheers
Sophie