München leads the way in migration to open source

​For those who missed it, here a link to a fascinating
TechReport​<http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-munich-rejected-steve-ballmer-and-kicked-microsoft-out-of-the-city/>
​ article<http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-munich-rejected-steve-ballmer-and-kicked-microsoft-out-of-the-city/>on
München's experience in migrating to open source​
​ :
www.techrepublic.com/article/how-munich-rejected-steve-ballmer-and-kicked-microsoft-out-of-the-city/
Of particular relevance for us LibreOffice users are the following two
paragraphs :

One of the main complaints from Munich staff using LiMux and OpenOffice is
about incompatibilities with Microsoft Office. Documents, spreadsheets and
other files display some fonts, pictures and layouts differently in
OpenOffice than in Microsoft Office, and changes to some documents are not
properly logged.

Munich hopes to ease some of these problems by moving all its OpenOffice
users to LibreOffice, a process which will get underway at the end of this
year. Munich has worked with other users of LibreOffice, including
authorities in the German city of Freiburg and the Austrian capital Vienna,
to pay for updates to LibreOffice that should improve interoperability with
Microsoft's office suite.

I presume the Foundation has been involved in preparation for the move to
LibreOffice ; hopefully a report will be forthcoming in the not too distant
future...

Henri

"M Henri Day":

​For those who missed it, here a link to a fascinating TechReport​ on
München's experience in migrating to open sourceIt might worth noticing that the migration took more than 13 years, several times of the planned budget, and required all the computers to be replaced with newer ones to _partially_ succeed.

​As I read the article, Urmas, the migration has been a striking success,
not despite, but to a large degree, because people were willing to take the
time necessary to do it well. Of course, Microsoft attempts to portray the
results in a far more negative fashion - I have no idea what your take is
or why you felt it necessary to truncate my rather brief post....

Henri

Hi :slight_smile:
Urma's response is a classic reversal of the facts.

The article itself clearly states that the project was easily within
budget. Plus the organisation didn't have to upgrade any hardware.
See paragraphs 6 & 7 under the heading "Cost".

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

"Tom Davies":

The article itself clearly states that the project was easily within
budget. Plus the organisation didn't have to upgrade any hardware.
See paragraphs 6 & 7 under the heading "Cost".

The report is missing the salaries. Also, there is no way the machine with Windows NT could run Ubuntu 10.10, which is the ultimate Limux base. They have to upgrade the old hardware out in order to do that.

​«[N]o way in which the machine [sic !] with Windows NT could run Ubuntu
10.10 ...»​ One of the more absurd comments I've yet seen, as anyone here
can verify by checking the Ubuntu system requirements, available here :
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.
Signature «Umas» is about as credible here as when s/he made statements
about Chinese glyphs....

Putting «Umas»' comments aside, I'd still very much like to know if the
Foundation is involved in München's migration from OpenOffice to
LibreOffice....

Henri

I have an actual machine which is pretty close to those minimum hardware requirements.
It works, and I sometimes use it. But work on it 8 hr a day? No way, bro!
As much as I love Linux, LibO and all, citing the operating system official minimum hardware requirements is definitely _not_ the way to prove Munich didn't have to do any hardware upgrades.

Henri,

Putting «Umas»' comments aside, I'd still very much like to know if
the Foundation is involved in München's migration from OpenOffice to
LibreOffice....

While we have informal discussions (alongside many other parties) with
the City of Munich, we are not "involved" in any way with this
migration. Please remember that the Document Foundation does not sell
or provide any professional services.

Best,

Hi :slight_smile:
Machines of that low spec have trouble with Windows Xp too. A fresh
reinstall of Windows just about works for maybe a year. Generally
with that age of machine it's a case of frequent defrags and stick to
old versions of programs such as MS Office.

Ubuntu is not the lightest distro. It is made to compete with Win7/8
rather than Win98. If you want something lighter and faster then go
for a distro that requires much lower specs. For example Xubuntu or
Lubuntu or pretty much anything else.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

"M Henri Day":

​«[N]o way in which the machine [sic !] with Windows NT could run Ubuntu
10.10 ...»​ One of the more absurd comments I've yet seen, as anyone here
can verify by checking the Ubuntu system requirements, available here

I'll just note that 512 MB was _the hardware memory limit_ for most motherboards in 2000s.

In data lunedì 25 novembre 2013 09:01:43, M Henri Day ha scritto:

> "Tom Davies":
>
>
> The article itself clearly states that the project was easily within
> budget. Plus the organisation didn't have to upgrade any hardware.
> See paragraphs 6 & 7 under the heading "Cost".
>
> The report is missing the salaries. Also, there is no way the machine with
> Windows NT could run Ubuntu 10.10, which is the ultimate Limux base. They
> have to upgrade the old hardware out in order to do that.

​«[N]o way in which the machine [sic !] with Windows NT could run Ubuntu
10.10 ...»​ One of the more absurd comments I've yet seen, as anyone here
can verify by checking the Ubuntu system requirements, available here :
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.
Signature «Umas» is about as credible here as when s/he made statements
about Chinese glyphs....

YADTCFU !!! (Yet Another Debunking Tentative Comment From Urmas!!!) :smiley: