need help off list on a Asus Win10/Ubuntu laptop

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#1

I am just MAD at my ASUS X751S laptop.

Windows updated itself to a newer version of Windows 10. That, again, dumped the GRUB system to be able to boot to Ubuntu-MATE 16.04LTS. I have been trying to get it working for over 14 hours.

First, from past experiences, It took awhile to get it to boot again from the DVD drive. Then I use a Live CD to partition the 1.0 TB drive. Currently it is trying my next try.

Windows did not like having 1 TB as a single drive. Then I made a small FAT32 partition before a 250GB Windows partition. Windows finally installed.

Next I had to work with the remaining space into 3 partitions, creating the following - "/", "/home", and Swap. "/" was set to about 40 GB which I hope is enough. "/swap" is about 2 GB at the end of the drive. The rest, about 740 GB is now set for "/home". This is the first time I figured out how to make the "/" OS system and the "/home" in different partitions.

I do not know how many times the system would only boot to Win10. I did not lose much data as the last time. Most of the files were copied to the 6TB "storage" desktop.

SO

I would like help trying to stop this issue now. Since I do not have the same problem[s] with my Gateway NE56R12u, I think it might be the ASUS laptop or the fact it has a 1 TB drive instead of 500 GB on this Gateway - which I am typing from the Ubuntu partition.

Anyone who can help, you can use either this webmaster@krackedpress.com address or timothy.lungstrom@gmail.com email address.

#2

This would be more appropriate to ask on an Ubuntu list or forum rather
than a libreoffice list!

#3

I use a bootable System Rescue USB pen drive and run fdisk to change the
bootable partition.

#4

hi.
i sent my comment off list in your second email address (gmail address).
hope that help and God bless you all.

#5

On 08/14/2017 08:49 AM, James Knott wrote:

On 08/14/2017 12:16 AM, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:

Windows updated itself to a newer version of Windows 10. That, again,
dumped the GRUB system to be able to boot to Ubuntu-MATE 16.04LTS. I
have been trying to get it working for over 14 hours.

I use a bootable System Rescue USB pen drive and run fdisk to change the
bootable partition.

The ASUS laptop has more trouble allowing USB booting than it does to get the CD/DVD drive to boot.

This laptop is the only one that has this constant problem and needs specific arrangement of partition types to get it working. I think it may be both the laptop BIOS and the 1 TB drive. The laptop I use for emailing is the next largest drive - 500 GB, and does not give me little issues in this department.

#6

You were one of the two.

#7

Tim,

Not sure if this would help on Win 10, but maybe worth a
try. I gave up on new MS versions not long after XP, but still
work on a few multi-boot systems and run into Grub issues.

The cure used here is to set up and adjust partitions with
Gparted (on a CD) , then run Puppy Linux (also on a CD) to remake
Grub with the grub4dos utility. Has the advantage that the
resultant Grub menu is much more readable.

If the Windows partition size needs to be changed, then Defrag
is run before Gparted.

Gordon

#8

The ASUS laptop has more trouble allowing USB booting than it does to get the CD/DVD drive to boot.

This laptop is the only one that has this constant problem and needs specific arrangement of partition types to get it working. I think it may be both the laptop BIOS and the 1 TB drive. The laptop I use for emailing is the next largest drive - 500 GB, and does not give me little issues in this department.

#9

The real problem was/is the fact that after Windows 10 updates itself and then changes the BIOS to remove the boot order. Also it damage the GRUB boot software.

Yes, Gparted is a nice utility. I have used it before and may use it again to tweak the partition size for Windows. 250 GB is more than I need for it. The file explorer in Windows 10 shows the size is 232 GB and currently 199 GB free space. On my oldest laptop had only a 256 GB internal drive, which I partitioned for dual booting with Win10 and Ubuntu. This 500 GB laptop [using now] is my default laptop since I have so much issues with the 17 inch / 1 TB one.

Last night I installed LibreOffice on Ubuntu, along with drivers for the printers and other software I use most often.

Right now I am scanning Windows 10 for any nasties that might have crept into Windows during the installs. That laptop's 4 cores are running too hot. I had to pause the scan since one core went to 199 degrees and the other 3 was over 185 degrees. This is why I sent it to the Warranty repair service and they told me that the fan and heat sink were replaced. The funny thing - sort of - is that Ubuntu runs much cooler than Win10 on that laptop.

I hope I will not have as much problems in the future.

#10

Yes - I've had that problem on a dual boot desktop : W7 (later upgraded
to W10) and Ubuntu1604 with each OS on its own hard disk.

The problem with cohabitation involving Windows is that the linux boot
has to be on the Windows disk. I had my default boot set to linux where
I do most of my work.

Quite often, when I went into Windows for the odd task, I would get
involved with Windows' automatic updates. These would drive me mad. I am
not opposed to automatic updates but Windows applies them at the end of
a session and they frequently need a reboot in mid update, if not a
couple of reboots. If I was not keeping a sharp eye for the reboot, the
desk top would end up back in linux. Unfortunately, next time I needed
Windows in a hurry, I would boot into the middle of an update and that
could cost me another 10 minutes of lost time waiting for it to complete.

Linux carries out its update installation in the background, very
unobtrusively. It seldom needs a reboot after update, generally only
when the kernel is updated and even then you can do it at your convenience.

Eventually, the boot sector on my Windows disk started playing up and
went bad. The best solution, I found, was to put the new Windows disk
into another machine. Repair the linux disk so that it had its own boot
sector. That way, with 2 computers quite independent, less time is lost
and Windows 10 now has a clean installation and is much faster at
starting up than the upgraded Windows 7 was.

My 2 cents worth,
Philip

#11

I am just MAD at my ASUS X751S laptop.

Windows updated itself to a newer version of Windows 10. That, again, dumped the GRUB system to be able to boot to Ubuntu-MATE 16.04LTS. I have been trying to get it working for over 14 hours.

Suggestion
Virtualize windows and solve your problem :slight_smile:

#12

NO I cannot do that. Wish I could.

If/When I need it to go to a warranty repair service, I have to give them a Windows password so these people can test it out before and after they do the work. If there is only Ubuntu installed, then they will tell me it is Linux that is part of the trouble.

Same with Internet access companies - it is your router that the problem so you MUST use ours at $10 a month, even if their wifi range does not cover all of your apartment/house, let alone 10 floors down to the green-space under my window.

I gave the repair people the Win10 and Ubuntu passwords, but it came back with a lot of Windows changes - including the splash and background images messed with. At least most of the data and Win10 packages remained the same.

Right now, if the hard drive is big enough, I give Windows 10 between a third to a forth of the total drive. The rest goes to Ubuntu. Right now on the ASUS laptop I gave Win10 about 200 GB of space and then gave the rest to Ubuntu. 40 GB partition for the "/" root folders and a few GB for the swap partition. The rest goes for the "/home" partition. Hopefully, this will allow me to keep my data when I have to install Ubuntu from scratch again.

The laptop I am typing from has only 500 GB so I split it in two. I need enough space to run some space hungry packages and its data that only works on Windows. It does not work correctly installed on a Virtual Windows "box" or via WINE. Most of this stuff is the Corel PaintShop package and the printing of labels directly onto CD. or DVD, media.

I decided, for now, not to install these packages onto the ASUS Windows partition till I fix all the issues. I do not want to waste time and "hair" dealing with repeat installations of the Win10 partition and its software.